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Pyramid Found - In The Heart Of Bosnia!
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 04:43 PM
Doug Weller, on May 5 2006, 07:32 AM, said:
mlitster, on May 2 2006, 06:35 PM, said:
Doug Weller, on Apr 30 2006, 07:05 AM, said:
Ancestor, on Apr 18 2006, 02:54 PM, said:
Formal excavations at the Archeological park: Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun site will start in April and continue to October 2006. The following archaeologists confirmed their participation in the expert teams: Mrs Grace Fegan, a leading Irish archaeologist, Mr Royce Richards, an experienced archaeologist from Australia, as well as archaeologists who graduated from the University of Insbruck (Austria), Glasgow (Scotland) and Ljubljana (Slovenia).
There is no such person as Royce Richards. Grace Fegan is a real archaeologist. There is a Richard Royce, but I don't know his credentials or experience. It would be nice to find out who really is working there.
Yes there is, I studied with him at Flinders University. He recieved his undergraduate Bachelor of Archaeology in 2004, he is now completing a Masters in Journalism and works for the Department of Environment and Heritage in Adelaide.
I wouldn't say he is an 'experienced' archaeologist, but he definetly exists...
Thanks.
So there's a Royce Richards? As well as a Richard Royce? It is really confusing, as both names are used in various articles, and Austria is sometimes substituted for Australia.
http://allaboutbosni.../arhiva/2006/04
". Participation has been announced by following archaeologists: Mr. Richard Royce, experienced archaeologist from Australia, together with graduate archaeologists fro Universities of Innsbruck (Austria), Glasgow (Scotland) and Ljubljana (Slovenia)."
http://www.kakanien.ac.at/weblogs/imagines...9788/index_html
"Participation has been confirmed by the following archaeologists: Grace Fegan, a leading Irish archaeologist, Royce Richards from Austria, together with other archaeologists from the University in Innsbruck, Glasgow and Ljubljana."
But of course, neither of them may be in Bosnia, the names were of people who might participate.
It would be nice to get in touch with Grace Fegan.
Doug
Doug, the more I think about it the more it perplexes me. There is no way the Royce Richards that I studied with would be working on a site like this in the near future, except as a volunteer. But he is Australian and an archaeology graduate with a relatively unusual name...
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Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:33 PM
08 May 2006, 15:30 (GMT+2:00) : Tuzla (FENA). Professors from the Faculty of Mining and Geology at the University of Tuzla, acting members of the Geological explorations team that did geological studies of the Visocica hill near Visoko (the locality of an alleged Bosnian pyramid), presented today at a press conference in Tuzla the final results of their research completed at the request by the Foundation "Arheološki park Bosanska piramida sunca" Visoko. The team leader Professor Dr. Sejfudin Vrabac said that they have concluded that Visočica hill is a natural geological formation, made of classic sediments of layered composition and varying thickness, and that its shape is a consequence of endodynamical and egsodynamical process in post-Miocene era. According to Professor Vrabac who specializes in paleogeology, there are dozens of like morphological formations in the Sarajevo-Zenica mining basin alone. The Geological team report on Visocica, based on the data collected in six drill holes at 3 to 17 m depths, is supported by the Research and Teaching Council of the Faculty of Mining and Geology, as well as the Association of Geologists of Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina.
Representatives of the Foundation "Bosanska piramida sunca" from Visoko were present at the press conference, and a member of that foundation and the coordinator for geological research Ms. Nadzija Nukić (BS geology, U of Tuzla 1971) rejected the research findings by the scientific staff from the University of Tuzla, stating that their research was "too superficial for making final conclusions". According to her, there are "too many elements that point at the conclusion that human hand took part in building the pyramid". She added that the excavations will continue as planned, announcing a visit by the pyramid and geology experts from Egypt in mid-May. According to her, "they should provide answers to some questions by the method of comparison". She added that it is her understanding that the Visocica hill near Visoko is not a lone example as there are nine objects or natural formations shaped as pyramids on the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina, which "can hardly be a coincidence". "Tunnels, the existence of which is undeniable, also lead to the need for additional explorations that, regardless of the report by the University of Tuzla, are continuing", said Nukić.
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Representatives of the Foundation "Bosanska piramida sunca" from Visoko were present at the press conference, and a member of that foundation and the coordinator for geological research Ms. Nadzija Nukić (BS geology, U of Tuzla 1971) rejected the research findings by the scientific staff from the University of Tuzla, stating that their research was "too superficial for making final conclusions". According to her, there are "too many elements that point at the conclusion that human hand took part in building the pyramid". She added that the excavations will continue as planned, announcing a visit by the pyramid and geology experts from Egypt in mid-May. According to her, "they should provide answers to some questions by the method of comparison". She added that it is her understanding that the Visocica hill near Visoko is not a lone example as there are nine objects or natural formations shaped as pyramids on the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina, which "can hardly be a coincidence". "Tunnels, the existence of which is undeniable, also lead to the need for additional explorations that, regardless of the report by the University of Tuzla, are continuing", said Nukić.
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Posted 09 May 2006 - 02:36 PM
Petitioner, on May 8 2006, 06:33 PM, said:
08 May 2006, 15:30 (GMT+2:00) : Tuzla (FENA). Professors from the Faculty of Mining and Geology at the University of Tuzla, acting members of the Geological explorations team that did geological studies of the Visocica hill near Visoko (the locality of an alleged Bosnian pyramid), presented today at a press conference in Tuzla the final results of their research completed at the request by the Foundation "Arheološki park Bosanska piramida sunca" Visoko. The team leader Professor Dr. Sejfudin Vrabac said that they have concluded that Visočica hill is a natural geological formation, made of classic sediments of layered composition and varying thickness, and that its shape is a consequence of endodynamical and egsodynamical process in post-Miocene era. According to Professor Vrabac who specializes in paleogeology, there are dozens of like morphological formations in the Sarajevo-Zenica mining basin alone. The Geological team report on Visocica, based on the data collected in six drill holes at 3 to 17 m depths, is supported by the Research and Teaching Council of the Faculty of Mining and Geology, as well as the Association of Geologists of Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina.
Representatives of the Foundation "Bosanska piramida sunca" from Visoko were present at the press conference, and a member of that foundation and the coordinator for geological research Ms. Nadzija Nukić (BS geology, U of Tuzla 1971) rejected the research findings by the scientific staff from the University of Tuzla, stating that their research was "too superficial for making final conclusions". According to her, there are "too many elements that point at the conclusion that human hand took part in building the pyramid". She added that the excavations will continue as planned, announcing a visit by the pyramid and geology experts from Egypt in mid-May. According to her, "they should provide answers to some questions by the method of comparison". She added that it is her understanding that the Visocica hill near Visoko is not a lone example as there are nine objects or natural formations shaped as pyramids on the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina, which "can hardly be a coincidence". "Tunnels, the existence of which is undeniable, also lead to the need for additional explorations that, regardless of the report by the University of Tuzla, are continuing", said Nukić.
See fully referenced source >>
Representatives of the Foundation "Bosanska piramida sunca" from Visoko were present at the press conference, and a member of that foundation and the coordinator for geological research Ms. Nadzija Nukić (BS geology, U of Tuzla 1971) rejected the research findings by the scientific staff from the University of Tuzla, stating that their research was "too superficial for making final conclusions". According to her, there are "too many elements that point at the conclusion that human hand took part in building the pyramid". She added that the excavations will continue as planned, announcing a visit by the pyramid and geology experts from Egypt in mid-May. According to her, "they should provide answers to some questions by the method of comparison". She added that it is her understanding that the Visocica hill near Visoko is not a lone example as there are nine objects or natural formations shaped as pyramids on the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina, which "can hardly be a coincidence". "Tunnels, the existence of which is undeniable, also lead to the need for additional explorations that, regardless of the report by the University of Tuzla, are continuing", said Nukić.
See fully referenced source >>
I think the Pyramid of the Sun people should be officially recognized as a cult.
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Posted 09 May 2006 - 02:43 PM
Thanks Petitioner,
I definitely have a feeling the Bosanska Piramida Sunca folks will never accept anyone elses findings but their own... :D
I definitely have a feeling the Bosanska Piramida Sunca folks will never accept anyone elses findings but their own... :D
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Posted 14 May 2006 - 08:35 PM
Ancestor, on May 6 2006, 02:49 PM, said:
Straight from a press release, I despair sometimes about the media.
Semir Osmanagic a Bosnian archaeologist? Hardly. Not even in Bosnia do the archaeologists believe in Lemuria.
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Posted 18 May 2006 - 10:33 AM
Has anyone noticed the inconsistencies in stating whether the alleged pyramid is "Mexican type" or "Egyptian type" - supposedly the construction technique is identical to that of the Egyptians - does this make sense if the pyramid is platformed? (I added the quotation marks because "Mexican pyramids" do not all have the same characterisitcs as the pyramid of the Sun in Teotihuacan or the Chichen Itza pyramid, which is clearly the model for some of the drawings I've seen. Indeed, a couple of pyramids in Mexico are round!)
I have been to Visoko recently and so far have seen nothing to convince me it is a pyramid. I am not an archeologist but I have visited dozens and dozens of sites in Mexico since childhood, which in the current, unfortunate, climate, apparently makes me a qualified expert!
I have been to Visoko recently and so far have seen nothing to convince me it is a pyramid. I am not an archeologist but I have visited dozens and dozens of sites in Mexico since childhood, which in the current, unfortunate, climate, apparently makes me a qualified expert!
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Posted 18 May 2006 - 01:20 PM
KOSMO,
Some of my favourite inconsistencies are:
1) the first date arbitrarily announced was that the "pyramid" is 27,000 years old, then revised down to 12,000, with no explanation... But hey, it was arbitrary to begin with!
2) S.O. and company quote his own books as sources of verification of his unsubstantiated theories!
3) The attitude that people who don't believe there is a pyramid have to prove there isn't one, rather than the other way around!
4) Anoncing "exact" measurements of something which, even if it exists, is covered with earth and therefore not measurable! And that the measures are all precisely metric- exactly 365 metres per side! (this was claimed on May 4 or 5) The link to the number of days in a year is so obvious...
Some of my favourite inconsistencies are:
1) the first date arbitrarily announced was that the "pyramid" is 27,000 years old, then revised down to 12,000, with no explanation... But hey, it was arbitrary to begin with!
2) S.O. and company quote his own books as sources of verification of his unsubstantiated theories!
3) The attitude that people who don't believe there is a pyramid have to prove there isn't one, rather than the other way around!
4) Anoncing "exact" measurements of something which, even if it exists, is covered with earth and therefore not measurable! And that the measures are all precisely metric- exactly 365 metres per side! (this was claimed on May 4 or 5) The link to the number of days in a year is so obvious...
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Posted 18 May 2006 - 07:07 PM
Posted on 16 May 2006 by NEWSBot
Yesterday arrived at Visoko Ali Abdullah Berekat, the leading egyptian pyramid expert. He will stay for a month in Visoko to attend the excavations. Already today he was very impressed to see the sandstone blocks and materials.
Yesterday arrived at Visoko Ali Abdullah Berekat, the leading egyptian pyramid expert. He will stay for a month in Visoko to attend the excavations. Already today he was very impressed to see the sandstone blocks and materials.
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Posted 18 May 2006 - 07:20 PM
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"They are jealous," Osmanagic told LiveScience in a telephone interview. "These people are going crazy because they've been teaching students that these [Bosnians] were cavemen, and all of a sudden they are finding complex structures here."
I don't know which Osmanagic is more, stupid or a class act comedian. I guess he outsmarted the people into giving him a hefty Swiss bank account. :)
Then again guys, life began in Bosnia about 12,000 years ago when the life of humans was approximately 6,000 years ago. I think Osmanagic should meet Chuck Norris, both very alike. :D
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Posted 18 May 2006 - 07:36 PM
16 May 2006
Egyptian experts back pyramid theory
Leading geologists from Egypt have confirmed that the pyramidal structure discovered near the town of Visocica is indeed a pyramid. Dr Aly Abd Barakat (an expert on Egyptian pyramids) visited two areas of excavation - the north and east faces - at the structure, which is now known as the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun. His conclusions about the blocks on the eastern face is that they are of a similar construction to those found
in Egyption pyramids - the blocks are handmade and polished; in Egypt, stones were polished to reflect the sunlight. Barakat also believes that the blocks, 4m x 1.5m in size, were brought here from a different location. Some of the blocks in the eastern face of the pyramid have been laid on top of each other, to a depth of four blocks. This gives some
indication of the massive size of the ancient construction. After studying excavations on the north side of the pyramid, Barakat concludes that the blocks here are handmade and have been created using a mould to form the blocks, which consist of an ancient 'concrete'-like mix. He also noticed a white line some 0.5cm thick between the blocks, indicating a cement-like substance has been used to adhere
the blocks together. A similar method has been seen in the construction of the Egyptian pyramids. Barakat went on to visit another excavation site located at the base of Pljesevica Hill, which is named the Bosnian Pyramid of the Moon.
He concludes that the 'steps' that form the sides of this pyramid are made by human hands. Some 20m above this part of the
excavations, he noticed a large number of blocks placed symetrically, proving they too are manmade.
http://www.bosnianpy...files/News.html
Egyptian experts back pyramid theory
Leading geologists from Egypt have confirmed that the pyramidal structure discovered near the town of Visocica is indeed a pyramid. Dr Aly Abd Barakat (an expert on Egyptian pyramids) visited two areas of excavation - the north and east faces - at the structure, which is now known as the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun. His conclusions about the blocks on the eastern face is that they are of a similar construction to those found
in Egyption pyramids - the blocks are handmade and polished; in Egypt, stones were polished to reflect the sunlight. Barakat also believes that the blocks, 4m x 1.5m in size, were brought here from a different location. Some of the blocks in the eastern face of the pyramid have been laid on top of each other, to a depth of four blocks. This gives some
indication of the massive size of the ancient construction. After studying excavations on the north side of the pyramid, Barakat concludes that the blocks here are handmade and have been created using a mould to form the blocks, which consist of an ancient 'concrete'-like mix. He also noticed a white line some 0.5cm thick between the blocks, indicating a cement-like substance has been used to adhere
the blocks together. A similar method has been seen in the construction of the Egyptian pyramids. Barakat went on to visit another excavation site located at the base of Pljesevica Hill, which is named the Bosnian Pyramid of the Moon.
He concludes that the 'steps' that form the sides of this pyramid are made by human hands. Some 20m above this part of the
excavations, he noticed a large number of blocks placed symetrically, proving they too are manmade.
http://www.bosnianpy...files/News.html
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Posted 18 May 2006 - 11:57 PM
The Egyptian pyramids had a purpose and that is to align them with the stars. The Bosnian pyramids are randomly placed on 'sacred mountains,' allegedly. Be honest here, is this truly a possibility if possible at all. You are only looking at the positives at them. Have you seen the frauds? Egyptian experts? The only true Egyptian expert is Dr. Hawas who ridicules the account, the rest of the Egyptologists are from Europe, who also dismiss it as nothing more than a hoax.
Osmanogic says that the Illyrians living in the area were 27,000 years. Are you kidding me? Scam, scam, scam. Many European academics and archaelogists denounce this, good for them. Not to long ago there was a protest because of the Bosian pyramid scam.
Now they are thinking of the Bosnian pyramid as the 8th wonder of the world. Not only do they have to fill their pockets but they have to completely embezzle the whole hoax. They should be arrested and accused for fraud and false information. This is no longer a shame, this is beginning to get disgusting.
Here are some sites: www.zuckervati.com/missinglinks/archives/003688.htm
Osmanogic says that the Illyrians living in the area were 27,000 years. Are you kidding me? Scam, scam, scam. Many European academics and archaelogists denounce this, good for them. Not to long ago there was a protest because of the Bosian pyramid scam.
Now they are thinking of the Bosnian pyramid as the 8th wonder of the world. Not only do they have to fill their pockets but they have to completely embezzle the whole hoax. They should be arrested and accused for fraud and false information. This is no longer a shame, this is beginning to get disgusting.
Here are some sites: www.zuckervati.com/missinglinks/archives/003688.htm
