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Stuck in the middle of the Greek Roman Split

I've been doing more and more research or this paper/book for a professor friend of mine..... got upgraded from 'Research Assistant' to 'Co-Author' fairly quick once I broke her out of her deadlock..... in the past I just went completely uncredited..... so whatever.   The issue is, I'm now writting for her agenda. I was tossed three research topics, and went with the very first one, thinking I, Mr. Philosophy can handle with a little investigation any topic or issue. Yes, I am a very, very rare breed of Philosopher, a Cynic Philosopher, but the little formal training I got from philosophy groups was a nearly unbiased Pan-Philosophy approach. In San Francisco, you come across a handful of deeply spiteful Anti-Semetic and Anti-Catholic Philosophers..... guys who can quickly change any debate on any subject to classical Anti-Popism. For me, tolerance was grinding my teeth in silence, seeing where the rants would go..... yes, it's hate, but will it stumble by accident upon a useful point or position? Usually not.... can't recall it ever be that case, but I would put up with it till the hate became a successful democracies, causing people to react positively to it and its obvious falsehoods. Only then would I crack the whip.... San Franciso claims to be highly tolerant, but it's about as intolerant as any place I ever visited. They pick and choose their heroes and martyrs, causes and tragedies, like any other. I suppose the trick in life is to find your roots in life, and learn over time to be honest about your prejudices and doubts. We all share a very similar brain biologically, chances are, if some are of quality X thinking style, we all possess it..... just some emphasize it, others hide it. This isn't a pure praexology, I reserve room for the unconscious/conscious, nature/nurture, and personality divides, but we all got something going on nasty if your a healthy individual.... hate isn't a epidemic triggered by hate speech, it's innate and simmers. Pops up in all sorts of unusual ways..... you can't blame it on hate speech alone, if anything, it can get around it.   Case in point, this paper. It touches both on Theological Issues..... which was certainly my point, and Cognitive Issues, involving theory of mind issues..... It's highly complex, but very simple.... but I don't want to navigate either here, just the aspect of hate and xenophobia inherent in its investigations. I'm a Catholic..... and a Philosopher...... therefor the title of 'Catholic Philosopher' immediately gets slapped on me, which I am very, very cautious about. I don't like it. Make it feel like I need to rush and debate Richard Dawkings on behalf of the Vatican and explain Catechism and Dogmas in-depth....... he'll, I Dunno about half the stuff..... I'm a Cynic with interest in Law and Ethics and History. I can't make sense of some of the logic of the Ecumenical Councils for example..... they appear to be debating physics and God's psychological makeup..... stuff God since the old testament said not to do. Then they started excommunication of various, legitimate chapters of the church that claim very legitimate Apostolic Descent because their understanding of physics didn't match up with the other factions.   Jesus didn't excommunicate anyone, not even Judas. He didn't set up a observatory on the Hollywood he preached, only time I can recall him getting kissed was when he wrecked the merchants in the temple. He took note of the legitimacy of the Pharisees to rule on Kosher matters, while denying they were Kosher themselves, and there for not to be held as examples of righteous conduct. He was close to the Samaritans, but denied the legitimacy of their religious methods..... despite being more orthodox in their adherence to Kosher beliefs, they lacked the understanding of what they were doing. That's all I know of him in his biases and outbursts. He seemed rather outgoing and friendly, willing to cross the divide like a Martin Luther King.   That would be a lovely snapshot of Christianity, if it weren't for history. Christianity undid itself at some point. Churches excommunicated one another on the silliest of circumstances. Take the papal primacy issue for example.... if there is a recognition that at one time there was indeed a state of existence of one church father being first among equals in one era, and everyone is gripping about it now, there is a very obvious solution..... rotate the geographical locations of the pope and other patriarchs..... have the Pope spend a year in Moscow, the Greek Patriarch in the Vatican, etc..... keep the mix random. Fine.... Rome can be first among equals no problem there. They can't even think it though, because of pride, nationality, and xenophobia. They have their squabbles, most of them quite silly, and its impossible to give in. Our church fathers have become the modern day Pharisees..... they have the apostolic prerogative to preach the word, but don't you dare emulate them in your communities..... holding on to ridiculous lifelong prideful squabbles and hatred and mistrust of the other due to your sense of self and History. It's not a Christian Belief, it's the putrid taint of Roman Paganism and its administrative functions that married into Christianity during and ever since Constantine.   Major grips of the last month, I was asked to 'Convert' by a Greek Orthodox nun to 'Orthodoxy'. Just how is it possible for a Christian to Convert from Christianity to Christianity? If I was to become a monk, I can grasp this need to convert to new rules and orders.... but the Pope isn't any more broke in terms of Apostolic Descent than the Greek Patriarch.... if anything, he is a tad bit more secure given he doesn't need approval from the Turkish Parliment to become Pope like the Greek Patriarch does. However, this doesn't stop either positions from holding to legitimate positions on ethics, or the nature of Christianity. Jesus choose the apostolic system, so divergency in views and emphasis are to be expected given the subjective view of every individual. Just keep the needless contradictions to the minimum, and remember brotherly love. Simple does it best, if you get confused about the physics of God, or the wording of creed, or lost a feel for the holy ghost, stick to Ethics, and keep to a sense of simplicity and humility in the face of conflict. We don't need it, we don't have to be glorious and top of the world in all things, we made it just fine all that time in the catacombs.   The other grip.... I agreed to in this paper to tackle the philosophy at heart of her theological issue..... I instantly saw the solution in St. Anslem and St. Thomas. My Greek Orthodox spiritual mother is getting deeply offensive now, like the universe is ending, crying about the east-west divide. I'm not worrying on theology persay, but their cognitive ideas at root.... and am resurrecting their concepts. They didn't invent it, the terminology dates back centuries prior to any schism. I'm taking very technical, scientific approach mapping the Professors Theory of Mind questions to the Cytoarchitecture of the mind, then going along with her investigations, noting oddities and where ideas branch into unknown. It's quite sterile, yet approachable and can be proven and disproved by a third party on the anatomical data I provide. But for y spiritual mother, every time I mention it, she makes a mountain out of a molehill.... it's east and west conflicts..... always a Catholic only and 'we don't teach that', even though ironically the Greek church produced plenty of fathers who have. Why am I getting nailed? Because I am Catholic, merely touching theology (with a nine foot pole) and Catholic Theologians are dangerous. I must be inherently be trying some sort of trickery, and therefor emotional crying and tantrums are necessary, though at root nothing is there. If anything, I have been exceptionally pan-Christian...... much of the work we are doing doesn't even focus on Christianity..... it goes to Assyria, India, China..... geese.....     I blame the stupid Romans for this headache. I can care less about the grips resulting from the administrative makeup of the churches. I'm not a part of that, nor from what I read in the New Testament, neither was Jesus..... he overlooked the issues that caused dissension and weakness of familiarity between each Apostle, to one another as well as to himself, and stuck with the bigger picture. We can really use guys like that today. Instead, I get asked to Convert and am treated like I'm playing with WMD for investigating well thought out works from Christian Fathers, finding ways to apply them today. I only push it with the authority of myself and the conviction that it can work, as a Philosopher, not a theologian. Nothing really new in it..... just rarely discussed anymore.   This is enough gripping. Later...

Onasander

Onasander

 

Penis Tree, Mortality, and God

http://jenniferlilla.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/the-philosophical-tree-as-taken-from-alexander-roobs-alchemy-and-mysticism-the-hermetic-museum.jpg   Yeah..... exactly as the title says...... medieval drawing of a man dying, with an arrow in his chest, his massive tree erection, and God pointing out how freaking weird this pervert is.   Im sure there is a deeper symbolism, something profound, but I choose to disregard that approach and take this pic at its absurd face value.   Anyone up for a game of pictionary?

Onasander

Onasander

 

No. 1

Gathering together a couple of books on early christian monasticism to do a few new topics in the religion forums, should I focus on the structure of the religious settlements, the architecture, the interplay between christian sects and pagans, or the way they lived by? Should my focus for discussions revolve around men like Anthony, Arsenio, and Origien, or the communities themselves?   How to approach this area in depth and force while keeping people interested? Such an area of high diversity that can easily rival the military threads on this site, but if done wrong, which would be really easy to do, can quickly kill all intrest in similar discussions cause it's not nearly as flashy, and might come off a little zealous. This wouldn't work well since half the people on this site are pagans, and despite working with INSKON and Taoist in discussions before, I'm a bit worried people might view this negatively as a attempt to evangilicize.   Strange, I rarely see anyone posting more than a passing referance to the old Roman cults and religions. Not even a essay on Epicurianism! Nobody goes indepth, and I myself am afriad with my great ignorance of many works left unread to make broad statements on theology, but it is of intrest to me. Mabey to others as well.

Onasander

Onasander

 

My Month Ban of Gilius is up....

I cut off viewing Gilius' post for a month after all the pointless absurdities he was bombing me with, with no attempt whatsoever at trying to hold to historical methods..... any methods.   Well Gilius, the month is up..... feel free to post away now. I'm lifting it.   Honestly, start posting........ do it now!   Waiting.....

Onasander

Onasander

 

Latin Use of Greek First Declension Singular

http://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Latin_first_declension   I only just discovered this.... apparently Greek loan words in the first declension singular play some tricks, -e remains instead of -a in the nomitive for example.   All the more reason for me now to build a time machine so I may travel back and punch a native latin speaker in the face. Ill just appear in their field while plowing, walk up to them in their stare of amazement, punch them in the face, and then walk back to the time machine, without saying a single word

Onasander

Onasander

 

I googled the problem with the database error

I have a theory..... either the site administrator is dead or homeless, and paid for the site a year in advance.   I like to think Hobo. He's riding the rails, crazy dirty beard, howling against the hail to the sight of a untouched winter valley below the shaking railbridge, in a state of liberating, frenzied serendipity having cut his last bonds to this world.   I copied and pasted the error message, and looked at the most recent examples of it. There is a degree of variability to it, but in general, it results in partial to full shutdowns of forums due to a unknown quota of messages being breached.   Everyone resolves it by calling the database serves, listen to their gripping about it, then begging everyone to delete the messages. Then site resumes.   I thought about sending this info to a mod, who could in theory tell the admin, but that PM is just outside of the scope of my willpower today.   Instead, I take my turkey baster and bucket of hot soapy water, and will go tree to tree looking for hibernating squirrels. It has as good a chance of fixing this as any other.   P.S. people..... quit emailing me, if it is a overload of the PM quota, we are just making worst. Short of finding the Admins house and clicking stuff on his computer, I can't do squat. Talk to the admin or mods. I'm just some guy. Cynics can answer many of lives hard questions most are incapable of tackling, but database errors are not a natural strong point of ours. Seems simple enough, but I can't do squat about it anymore than you.

Onasander

Onasander

 

Global Warming Broke UNRV's Forum

Global Warming is at it again.....   The best ritual the practitioners of Scientism have developed to keep solar winds from messing with our cell phone towers is for everyone to recycle. I think, in order to repair global warming damage to the forum, is to develop a new responsive ritual ourselves.   I suggest, we ask ourselves why the software of the site is still otherwise functioning, such as private messages, and blog entries, and ask ourselves at a software level what the real difference between posting in these are from the forum. It doesn't look like much.   Furthermore, the forum seems to of retained its memory, so it's not a memory corruption. It's the capacity of the website to direct us to individual threads.   Now.... the pragmatic rational thing would be to rename the directories in the forums. Or at least add a new section that functions while the rest frets. However, that makes too much sense. I recommend, we use narrow minded group think and floppy rationalization and encourage everyone to douche female squirrels to make the global warming forum glitch go away, and tell anyone who is skeptical of capturing wild squirrels and douching them are uneducated, superstitious riftraft. We can compare them to the Heavens Gate cult, evolution deniers, or the Welsh. If we ostracize enough of these skeptics, these pragmatic seekers of the truth, maybe the internet directory will become pleased, and fix itself as a goodwill measure...... maybe?   Or we can just fix the directory.   Hey look..... I just posted this. Means it's possible to fix it..... the fundamentals of the website isn't broke, just the index links.

Onasander

Onasander

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