Rameses the Great
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Come back soon and I hope you're doing well!
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I'm sure the Romans had encountered ambushes, especially in the northern regions of Germania and Gaul which were heavily forested. I still don't know if they had a way of dealing with the issue. Would they send scouts to suvey the land or did they have intelligence on the situation?
Discuss.
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People seem to forget we used to be one church.
Christianity was never one church. The very first division, during Peter and Paul's lifetimes, was between those who wanted Gentiles to become circumcised before they could convert, and those who thought baptism was enough. This was a major doctrinal disagreement splitting Jewish and Gentile Christians, and the divisions only grew from there.
This issue was also solved. Your right, but Paul convinced Peter and James to stop this practice. They set two conditions for the Gentiles, 1. To become accustomed with Judaism and 2. To give a donation to the church upon baptism. Paul told them that if they did not have to become Jewish first, then all who were baptised had to give a donation which was important considering at that time donations were really important. Of course Paul was still disappointed but the rift was settled.
Also remember there was never a 'church' at that time it was a belief and not much more at that time.
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Pope Benedict is very conservative as a matter of fact, moreso then Pope John Paul. I have no problem in what he said, yet the motives he wanted. Does he want to tell the Catholics they're the true religion? Did he want to tell the Orthodox and other Christian faiths that what they believe is not true? Or both? The pope in this day and age must act politically. The day Pope Benedict stated what he did about Islam his people were not harmed yet the Christians living in the Middle East were hurt. This is a result of his comments the papacy of Rome has a lot of power.
People seem to forget we used to be one church. Christianity started in the Middle East in places such as Syria, Armenia, and Egypt all within the areas of the Eastern Roman Empire. When the Edict of Milan was signed it was no longer dangerous to become Christian. They ordered the rest of the empire to follow the pope in Rome, well of course we won't why would we have to follow the people we taught? Before you know it the doctrines were altered. The differences between Catholicism and Orthodox are small but they are HUGE.
I would love to rejoin with the Catholic Church but it won't be done like this. I just wander where Pope Benedict is going with this, I guess only time will tell.
My two cents.
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Here ia a quote from a post of member no. 109, URSUS:
Jul 4 2006, 04:28 PM Post #35
"It would be nice though if we could discuss Christianity without:
* Protestants waving the banner of Solo Sciptura against Catholics and Orthodox (to be blunt, as far as I am concerned the Protestant viewpoint is off topic since it has nothing to do with the Christianity of the Roman Empire)
* Agnostics who feel the need to make rather rude comments about Christianity no matter the situation .... or to make rude comments about religion in general. Bonus points if they somehow manage to tie in the evils of organized religion with the politics of the Bush Administration.
And yes I suppose sometimes Pagans can get snippy when it comes to Christianity, though I see far less of it than the above two.
Everytime a discussion on Christianity is started it degenerates into the above pattern, it seems. Those who sincerely want to discuss Christianity as a historical and cultural reflection of the Roman Empire have to suffer those on all sides who have an axe to grind. "
Wiser words were hardly ever said.
I bring these words of precaution because it seems that this thread is going to talk about the relations between different denominations, a highly candent topic.
Indeed and I agree completely, although sometimes do into trouble, with what Ursus said. However we did talk about the Pope's words after his controversial topics about Islam. I'm just wandering why he all of a sudden turned the relations of the Catholic church. There is still friction between the two Apostolic churches, Catholics and Orthodox. The Pope is a very wise and smart man make no doubts however I don't know what led him to the comments he made. He seems more conservative then Pope John Paul II.
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LORENZAGO DI CADORE, Italy - Pope Benedict XVI has reasserted the universal primacy of the Roman Catholic Church, approving a document released Tuesday that says Orthodox churches were defective and that other Christian denominations were not true churches.
Benedict approved a document from his old offices at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith that restates church teaching on relations with other Christians. It was the second time in a week the pope has corrected what he says are erroneous interpretations of the Second Vatican Council, the 1962-65 meetings that modernized the church.
This is the second time the pope's words have caused controversey. For those who don't know we were in talks of reuniting into one church but because of these comments it is likely to end. Can someone who knows the situation better tell me what the heck is going on?
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Sorry for the false accusation please forgive me.
Not until you say ten "Hail Beadys."
You know, I did give you the joke I think we're about even.
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Consider this stolen, for posting elsewhere.
Or brought to me by an e-mail. Glad you jump to conclusions.
Let me rephrase: Consider it stolen by me for posting elsewhere.
Lancaster's Corollary to Beady's 10th Law of Social Harmonics: "Whatever the joke, someone won't get it."
Oh, glad I can help. Sorry for the false accusation please forgive me.
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Consider this stolen, for posting elsewhere.
Or brought to me by an e-mail. Glad you jump to conclusions.
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> NEWS FLASH: Teacher Arrested at Airport
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> A public school teacher was arrested today at John F. Kennedy
> International Airport as he attempted to board a flight while in
> possession of a ruler, a protractor, a set square, a slide rule and a
> calculator...
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> At a morning press conference, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said he
> believes the man is a member of the notorious Al-gebra movement. He did
> not identify the man, who has been charged by the FBI with carrying
> weapons of math instruction.
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> "Al-gebra is a problem for us," Gonzales said. "They desire solutions by
> means and extremes, and sometimes go off on tangents in search of absolute
> values. They use secret code names like 'x' and 'y' and refer to
> themselves as 'unknowns', but we have determined they belong to a common
> denominator with coordinates in every country.
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> When asked to comment on the arrest, President Bush said, "If God had
> wanted us to have better weapons of math instruction, He would have given
> us more fingers and toes."
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> White House aides told reporters they could not recall a more intelligent
> or profound statement by the president.
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The big disaster you are thinking about here was the First Sicilian War in 480 BC. Gelon, tyrant of Gela & Syracuse wanted to unite all of Sicily and obviously the Carthaginians couldn
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I know I haven't been on here for a while with summer and what not some time ago I recall seeing articles on Greco-Carthaginian battles. I understand that the Carthaginian, other then the Punic Wars, are not really known for their military. I know in many instances Carthage and Greece fought over control of Sicily. The thing that surprises me however in that most of the battles the Greeks defeated the Carthaginians soundly in instances the Romans had trouble with them.
For example I remember the war sparked up in Sicily and the Carthaginians planned for a full scale war with the Greeks. They raised a substantial force, the largest in Carthaginian history, yet the Greeks just mobilized their troops to a much lesser extend yet defeated the Carthaginians subsequently winning the war. Anyone heard of this, or can reference me to it?
Also, I notice the Carthaginian army seems to be more Hellenistic rather then Middle Eastern. Was the idea of phalanx and mercenary use brought about by the Greeks or was this idea a Carthaginian practice? What was their army like this before the widespread culture of Hellenism mainly before Alexander the Great?
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Was this only a Phoenician/Carthaginian practice or were their others in the region who did partake in these events?
I said in my post that it was a pan-semitic activity...
Baal (Northwest Semitic/Phoenician) = Bel (Eastern Semitic/Babylonian) = Bēlu (Akkadian) and it means "Lord" or "Master". Most likely 'he' was the sun or a solar deity. The Babylonian & Assyrian Marduk was also conflated with Bel/Baal.
As for a Greco-Roman source I would certainly say check Flavius Josephus first.
Ok, thanks!
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RtG: The Tophet was the actual cemetery. The 'rights' of child sacrifice are what is referred to as the Molk Sacrifice as in the Semitic languages it was written and referred to as MLK.
There is plenty of evidence that the practice was common among Semitic people with the Jewish people being of course the main contingent to reject the practice.
The interpretation of the practice will probably always be open for rigorous debate. However, it seems as if 2 primary factors played a part:
- The children were perhaps those of important members of the community
- The children were perhaps already ill and their life expectancy was not expected to be long anyway (based on analysis of remains in the tophets of Carthage & Motya)
In Phoenicia proper Baal would indeed have been the primary deity honored in the sacrifice and in Carthage it would have been Baal or Tanit.
Was this only a Phoenician/Carthaginian practice or were their others in the region who did partake in these events? Whenver it states a chil sacrifice it says 'Baalim' if this is the case it was probably most common among the Phoenicians unless others other than the Phoenicians used Baalim as their God.
I'm wandering if there are any Grek or Roman sources.
- The children were perhaps those of important members of the community
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I know there are theories as to if the Carthaginians did use tiphot rites but was this not brought over from its homeland Phoenicia? The Bible makes mention of children being sacrificed to the God 'Baalim' if this is so then I'm guessing this was from the Phoenicians and Assyrians. Does anyone have more information on this?
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Before posting I do a similar thing like Nephele I just make sure I copy it and if it is posted I check and if not I just start over and paste it.
I like the new look but were are those dang on smilies?
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Up until the early 1800s, the Egyptians sought to control Sudan for its gold mines. Interesting read, thanks Pantagathus.
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According to the article, the Ottomans ordered massive amounts of ammunition and weapons from Western countries. By the time warfare changed during the late 1800s, the Ottomans could no longer depend on their specialty hand to hand combat. This probably led to having to finally modernize the army. Also in the Russo-Ottoman War of 1877 the Russians made so many mistake it may not have been such a closely contested war had logistics been better to the Russians.
Nonetheless an interesting read Kosmo, thank you.
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If you don't want to go up the Spanish steps you don't have to, just take the Spanish elevator not a car.
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Any European nation, Austria and Russia in particular, could've easily taken the Ottoman Empire in the late stages of its empire. They didn't adopt the use of the iron clads, their canons were bulky and not fit for open field battle as their European counterparts, and were to detatched from Europe to modernize. Nations started to break away and nations that did modernize their army, such as Muhammed Ali Pahsa modernizing his army, were at the gates of Constantinople and had not the European powers intervened there would not have been an Ottoman Empire.
As Russia set to invade to Ottomans, Britain, France, and Austria had to help the Ottomans in order for them not conquer the Ottomans and grow to strong. The only reason the Ottoman Empire didn't die out before the 1900s is because of European intervention in the matter.
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LOL Xena, brings me back to the days of terrible television.
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Oh, well. It cannot be truth
The true story sounds so: His library was in the Kremlin until distemper in 17 AD. Then all books were looted and a part of them is completely missing but some of them were collected in the State Historical Museum in Moscow and i saw a few books from this library.
The real library had about 800 books. They were brought from Byzantine by Sophia Paleolog (wife of Ivan III and grandmother of Ivan the Terrible). It was collection of old ancient (Greek, Roman and Byzantine) authors.
I pereodically read "Ivan The Terrible's library was found" or "we know where is this library" but all talks about it are groundless only.
I wouldn't be surprised though. Whether it is truth or not, it certainly is believable. The Byzantines did have an awful lot of influence. Are we talking about the Kievan Rus period?
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I know this is old but I always find it funny.
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Contrary to recent rumor and desire, the reports of my deceasement are contrary to fact and sublimely exaggerated. I have taken to disgorging the premises of four decades of accumulated worthless papers, clothes - such as double breasted count suits, and accounting books circa 1900. Not to put too fine a point on it, the Domina preached that it was, and remains, simply a matter of the junk or me that make the Ultimate Voyage. I have been whelmed by untold numbers of telephone calls by my alleged friends and good times relatives attempting to certify my passing. It was my pleasure to disappoint the louts. As is my wont, I have also been testing sundry whisk(e)ys, wines and and beers. Newcastle Brown Ale is my present ticket to oblivion. The Yankees are the bane of my soul and contribute disproportionately to my inebriation.
The Domina has taken to an architect to bring HER kitchen into the 21st Century from its 1920s glory. He took out his tape measure and charm, and did what people think architects should do. When he finished nosing around, Gaius asked for a ball park guesstimate of the cost. The bearded sod put his life in my hands when he replied: $80 grand, not counting sink, washer-dryer, stove and dish washer. Gaius informed said sod that Gaius did not mean Yankee Stadium when he mentioned a 'ball park' figure. C. also made enquiry as to whether he was related to the late Jessie James. Gaius could buy Albania for less than that. On a scale of 1-10, the god-Consul's fury was 100. When the pedal hits the metal, the Domina may have to do with a Hibachi and a wash basin and I'll do with a park bench.
The jokes should recommence shortly. Some of you presently have an outstanding invitation pending on regular e-mail. Others of you will get the same wondrous invitation as soon as I track down your regular e-mail addresses.
I really do love and appreciate all y'all, and thanks for thinking about me.
Congratulations DoL.
Look who's back!
Great to see you back in comission.
The mummy's curse: historical cohort study
in Archaeological News: The World
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That is because the Westerners usually just opened the thousands of years old tombs. Zahi Hawass told them if they are to discover any tombs to open them, let the bad air out and let the good air come in. It's not a curse for crying out loud, it's the fact that the age old tomb has bad air that is harmful to anyone's health.