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    Dido and Aeneas

    Homer was but one version of the Trojan war and the stories of it's heroes, as foreign people came in contact with the Greeks some of them adopted and adapt those stories so they could use the various heroes as their ancestor/city founders. for example their were and earlier version in which both Odysseus and Aeneas founded Rome. Their is a great book about this subject called "The Returns of Odysseus" by Irad Malkin.
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    Dido and Aeneas

    It's important to remember that when Greek and Roman authors wrote about ancient myths they didn't invent them but use a common version that was known orally while adding to it there own styles and twists. Vergillius didn't invent the story of Aeneas just as Sophocles didn't invent the story of Oedipus.
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    Quintus Fabius Pictor?

    As I understand it's a collection of Roman authors who wrote in Latin, however Pictor wrote history in Greek.
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    agrippa & augustus

    It's seem that the "blue blood" issue was resolved by his marriage to Julia, this was btw the method which Augustus initially use to show his chosen heir. I also like to add that Augustus and Agrippa grew up together and I suppose there were a genuine friendship between them.
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    Eid Mar Aureus in British Museum

    "Brutus now summoned Cassius to Sardis [42 BC], and as he drew near, went to meet him with his friends; and the whole army, in full array, saluted them both as Imperators." (Plutarchus, Life of Brutus, 34)
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    Birthday Hails M Porcius Cato

    Enjoy the birthday gift!
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    Eid Mar Aureus in British Museum

    It's seem this coin was famous even in ancient times: "In addition to these activities Brutus stamped upon the coins which were being minted his own likeness and a cap and two daggers, indicating by this and by the inscription that he and Cassius had liberated the fatherland." (Cassius Dio, 47.25.3)
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    Rachel Weisz - Ancient Librarian

    Just finished seeing it and it's was excellent! pretty good depiction of late antiquity Alexandria and the religious conflicts that led to Hypatia death.
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    Birthday Hails Viggen

    Happy Birthday!
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    Late Antiquity Journals

    My first response is that writing in ancient times, even letters, was always intended for an audience of more than a few people. The only writing I can think of that approaches journal writing with references to private topics: moods, culpability, remorse, self-questioning, trivia of daily life, is the Confessions of St. Augustine, on the eve of the medieval period. I'm sure others will have sources for you. "Dear Diary, It's nine o'clock, the children are fast asleep, and I'm going over these latest accounts from Trajan's Market before I hit the sack." Ancient people didn't conceive of their world or of themselves in this way. True, plus in ancient times the writing materials were expensive so it isn't likely to be wasted on writing a diary.
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    Pliny quote: latifundia perdidere italiam

    Pliny was convinced (perhaps rightly so) that Roman character was suffering due to slaves doing all the hard agricultural work that the Romans themselves used to do in the time of the Republic. Rome would never see another Cincinnatus. -- Nephele It's seem to be a wide spread notion even in the time of the republic, for example it's motivated the Gracchi and their supporters to propose lands reform.
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    Birthday Hails to Klingan!

    Happy Birthday, Klingan!
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    Carthago delando est

    Yes, Dacia delenda est = "Dacia must be destroyed"
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    Roman Civil Wars

    Pharsalus, Mutina, Philippi, Actium. in short all the important battles. Why are you asking? arr you planning to make such a game?
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    Spelling of Caisar

    I did manage to find this inscription from Hadrianus time: Imp(eratori) / Caisari(!) / Traiano / Hadriano / Aug(usto) Iovi / Olym[p]io / conditori / col(oniae) (AE 1938, 0140) But since it's came from Thracia it's could be simply a spelling mistake rather than return to the conservative spelling form.
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    Hellenism and Its Discontents

    The author neglect to mention an important fact and this is that the revolt had a strong element of class struggle. Hellenism penetrated, very slowly, into the Jewish elite which at the time was compose of a small minority of the families which were responsible to the conduct of worship in the temple. when they made Jerusalem a polis they deprive of the urban masses they rights in the city and reduce the rights of village dwellers. As for the Hashmoneans it's more complicated, while they were Jewish nationalists who had no problems running around Israel and destroying the Greek polis cities they also rule as an Hellenic dynasty in an Hellenic style state. You're absolutely right (and thanks for pointing out) that the story of the anti-Jewish religious decree by Antiochus IV is entirely absent from contemporary Hellenic and Latin sources. It's possible that his anti-Jewish actions were fabricated after the fact by anti-Hellenic sympathizers. On the other hand, all accounts of Antiochus report on his activities strictly from the point of view of his enemies -- and his non-Jewish enemies probably wouldn't have cared about Antiochus violating Jewish religious law (which to ancient outsiders--though not later Christians--probably appeared ridiculous anyway) given Antiochus' more important effects on ancient geopolitics. Judea was just a small part in the Seleucid empire and the Jewish revolt was a minor problem to them as they have to handle the Parthian threat in the east (this was part of the reason they couldn't master enough force to crush the revolt). Any author which deal with the Seleucid would take no notice of little Judea and rightly so. However Antiochus IV decrees against the Jews are mentioned when Latin-Greek authors write about the Jewish people or Judea. Tacitus write that "after the Macedonians gained supremacy, King Antiochus endeavoured to abolish Jewish superstition and to introduce Greek civilization" (Histories, 5.8) .
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    Gracchi as demogogues or revolutionaries?

    The original Tribunes had more social than political purpose, to defend the Plebs masses from the strong hand policies of the Patrician elite. After all restrictions on Plebs were abolished the Tribunship lost it's original purpose and was simply use as a tool in the political game - it's was easily used by Optimates as by Populares.
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    Birthday Hails to Kosmo!

    Happy B-Day!!!!!!!!!
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    Gracchi as demogogues or revolutionaries?

    Most of the "trouble making" Tribunes operated in the early Republic, since the Plebs achieved equall rights and the formation of the Patrician-Plebic Nobilitas almost all Tribunes didn't steer the public opinion. I think the Gracchi were conservative in their aims, after all their goal was to increase the Roman rural population so the tradition military system could be maintain however their methods, like ignoring the Senate opinion or run to election to two terms in row at the same office, were clearly out of the norm in the politics of their days.
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    Lacus Curtius

    Works fine for me. btw exactly for those kind of problem the Internet Archive exists.
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    Languages of the Roman Empire

    As far as I know in the west the local languages has no alphabet so the only inscription are in Latin. In the east the common language was Greek and so most the inscriptions are in this language, the only exception I know of is Judea where there were tomb inscription in Hebrew and Aramic (like the tomb of Caiaphas).
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    The odd relationship between Caesar

    What always puzzled me about his actions in Actium is why after the defeat in the naval battle he didn't try to make use to his Legions and preferred to fled to Egypt? he seem to just lose faith after Agrippa victory.
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    Surnames of the Porcii

    Do you mean familial connections? The Porcii Catones were most likely related to the Porcii Laecae and Porcii Licini. M
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    Tacitus & Augustus

    Anyone know good articles/books about Tacitus views on Augustus and his rule?
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    The Flavian Amphitheater: Actual Name?

    Those verses actually referred to the inauguration of the Colosseum; the alluded Caesar was Titus. Typically, that denomination was not a formal proper name, but just an unspecific poetic possessive phrase using a regular genitive declension (-reum); ie. the
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