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- The xenophobic Romans were extremely Hellenophilic from the very first historic records available to us.
I think you simplified the matter, all Romans understand that Greek culture is superior to their own and some did become Hellenophilic but some like Cato the Elder had a more ambivalent view, on the one hand as I say he appreciate the Greek culture but on the other hand he hated the contemporary Greek and thought that if Rome would absorb too much of the Greeks it's would hurt the Mos Maiorum and in the end led to the weaken of the Roman state.
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- It is okay to use the word "Emperor" and "King" interchangably.
Funny that you mention this, in the ancient Jewish sources the Roman emperor is often called a "King". It's seem that some of the people which lived under the empire rule were also confused on this subject.
- Julius Caesar was the first Emperor of Rome.
While Caesar wasn't a Princeps some ancient authors like Suetonius saw his as the founder the imperial power in Rome.
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I had never know this but I am quite fascinated. Does you know if Josephus makes mention of this fact? My copy of his work is buried in the depths of moving boxes...
As far as I remember Jospehus doesn't mention Gallio. The Oxford Classical dictionary give a reference to a Greek inscription (Sylloge Inscriptionum Graecarum 3 2. 801) mentioning Gallio governorship in Achae.
But since we are on the topic of Romans mentioned in the Bible, I read in a book many years ago and so have no reference to it, that Pontius Pilate may have been a descent of Marc Antony though the line of his daughter Cleopatra Selene (then removed once or twice more). Has anyone else come across this?Extremely unlikely, Cleopatra Selene was married to the Mauritian king Juba I. it's possible she and her children were Roman citizens (at the time the clients royalty held Roman citizenship) but it's unlikely that one of them would be appointed to an official job, no matter how minor.
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Problem solved, Thanks!
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Military money is also an investment; "glory" is not.
It seems that the military value of the outer space is currently restricted to the orbits around the Earth.
For the Soviet Union the space race was clearly a catastrophic investment.
If China wants to waste some billions of Yuans in the cosmic void, that might be good news for any of their competitors.
In the past the main motivation to the space program was the competition with the USSR, both states saw themselves as the leading powers in the world and if you are the leading power you need to be first at every field. The Soviets launch the first man to outer space so the American wanted to be the first on the moon.
I would say that "glory" as you put it (I would used the word "prestige") is an essential to the image of a powerful nation that want to be the leading power in the world. If China would increase it's space program it's could very well cause to the USA to do the same.
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It's seem to be some change in the board system, in the past when I click of a topic I get to view the first post + the 15 immediate replies, now when I click on a topic I get to see only the first post and need to click on every single replay in order to view it.
This is extremly annoying
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Tiberius was left handed.
"He was large and strong of frame, and of a stature above the average; broad of shoulders and chest; well proportioned and symmetrical from head to foot. His left hand was the more nimble and stronger, and its joints were so powerful that he could bore through a fresh, sound apple with his finger, and break the head of a boy, or even a young man, with a fillip." (Suetonius, Life of Tiberius, 68)
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Yes it's seem that in the republic it's was not customary to grow beards.
"4. That it was an inherited custom of Publius Africanus and other distinguished men of his time to shave their beard and cheeks.
1 I found it stated in books which I read dealing with the life of Publius Scipio Africanus, that Publius Scipio, the son of Paulus, after he had celebrated a triumph because of his victory over the Carthaginians and had been censor, was accused before the people by Claudius Asellius, tribune of the commons, whom he had degraded from knighthood during his censorship; and that Scipio, although he was under accusation, neither ceased to shave his beard and to wear white raiment nor appeared in the usual garb of those under accusation. 2 But since it is certain that at that time Scipio was less than forty years old, I was surprised at the statement about shaving his beard. 3 I have learned, however, that in those same times the other nobles shaved their beards at that time of life, and that is why we see many busts of early men represented in that way, men who were not very old, but in middle life." (Aulus Gellius, Noctes Atticae, 3.4)
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Does anybody know of a site containing De Incendio Urbis - a rather curious poem, often attributed to Lucan. An English translation would be preferred.
I believe this poem was lost, we may have a fragment of two lines from it however this is disputed.
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Severely embarrassed. I have my image but can't find how to incorporate in the reply. Will anyone sympathise with my technical incompetence and give me a hand?!!
You need to upload it to external sever (like http://imageshack.us/) and then put the link that you receive.
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It's obvious that the emperor had the various slave staff that was in every rich house. there were some freedmen who were employed in an administrative positions and in the early years there was alot of importand to the praetorian prefect Burrus and Nero tutor Seneca. if you want to know more read Tacitus' Annals and Suetonius' life of Nero.
And if you write a novel about Nero you have to include Petronius!
"Petronius calls for a brief retrospect. He was a man whose day was passed in sleep, his nights in the social duties and amenities of life: others industry may raise to greatness
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Seriously - has this thread been a joke? Just shows you how preoccupied I am these days....
That much is obvious. I mean, would you register at a discussion board dealing with Ancient Rome only to have your first post on such un-Roman subject as cat urine?
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While this has never been an American practice, I think Barack Obama is probably the one president fit enough to ride on horseback (with a sword and armor) on the front line of any battle.
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These ridiculous analogies even penetrate the press:
Although, I must say that it is quite a well written article.
I'm not surprise as this entire newspaper ("The Guardian") is filled with ridicules rubbish.
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Yes, I think that last point is quite clear. I only wanted to point out originally that that came across much clearer in the Dutch than in the English translation. But let's forget about it. I promise I won't nit pick anymore.
By the way : I didn't know you had the word '' merciless '' in Hebrew.
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You nit picking again
of course the word "merciless" doesn't exist in Hebrew but if I would write "חסרי רחמים" which is it's Hebrew equivalent nobody on this board would understand. -
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Ave Nephele,
It is very presumptious of me perhaps to correct other people on their own language, but the Latin word used is 'implacabiles'. The only reasonable translation for that term in English seems to me pretty self-evidently 'implacable', not 'merciless'. To me that last word means a completely different thing. So I can see no justification for it whatsoever. The least I could say is that if that English translation is acceptable and not misleading to people who have English as their first language
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Jerusalem
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Tarragona?
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I read Tacitus annals a while ago and plan on a refrsher because I forgot alot of his annals. But from what I remember Germanicus was beloved by the Legions. He must of had some good virtue for this to be so. And I also think I remember Tactitus saying "he was beloved by the romans".paraphrase. AM I remembering my studies wrong?
Germanicus was indeed love by the urban masses in Rome, however in my opinion the fact that he became the darling of the masses doesn't mean in any way that he was a great general or statesman. and one can only wonder if he wpuld still maintain his popularity if he wasn't died so young?
Tacitus is a good historian, however it's important to make a different between the facts and his own opinions regarding them. In the case of Tiberius Tacitus doesn't miss the chance to make his look like a villain.
See for example this passage:
"The news both relieved and disquieted Tiberius. He was thankful that the rising had been crushed; but that Germanicus should have earned the good-will of the troops by his grants of money and acceleration of discharges
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At the end of the day though these shows are entertainment. I'm not really into coventions and rubber foreheads, but to me this business of learning Klingon to while the time away seems very odd.
Personally I think the problem isn't about Star Trek being silly, but silly people taking it seriously in the first place.
I know what you mean, I once found myself in a convention and the people were extremly odd: they wear ST uniform and in every word drop quotes from the various shows.
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* Geography - I just find almost all discussion about borders and administrative division to be extremly boring and in my view not that important.
Commonly taught inaccuracies about the classical world
in Historia in Universum
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You are correct of course, my point is that most books are refer to Rome from a very "legal" and "official" point of view that was could be understand by the Roman aristocracy but probably wasn't shared by the masses who lived under Roman rule.