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  1. Gaius Julius Camillus

    Where Is Every One From?

    Denton, Texas!! What up Zanatos!
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    A Roman Child is born

    Thank you all for your good wishes and the links. My mother is a seamstress, and she saw pattern for the leather bulla, and is even now, as we speak, making it. As far as what southerners will call him, we hope "Cade". Thanks again all.
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    A Roman Child is born

    I wanted to announce that my first son was born six days ago. His official name on the birth certificate is Caedicius Antonius Matson. My hope is that he will keep this tradition with his children and so on. I am in need of customs, prayers, etc, where a roman child is concerned. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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    A Roman Child is born

    Yes, I must have heard it before, because no one can be that lucky! And yes, I am unmasked as Julian the Faithful at last. We have had many compliments on his name thus far, which is what we had hoped. I appreciate the congrats and the suggestions. Now i have to find a Bulla!
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    Was Jesus Caesar?

    Hey guys, has anyone here read the Book, 'Was Jesus Caesar', or have any thoughts on it if you have? Below is a brief intro about the book itself. The most interesting coincidence to me was that the author states that Jesus as well as Caesar hung on a cross. He provides a reconstruction of the crucifixion of Caesar. He credits Suetonius and Appianus for this image. Suet. Div. Iul. 84.1:
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    Roman Reenactment In Texas

    Does anyone know anything close to Texas? Thanks in advance.
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    What movies have you seen recently?

    I thought it was great! Why? There are so few movies today where you can have good, clean family fun, except for disney.
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    Was Jesus Caesar?

    So let me ask this, how long after Jesus' death before his followers became substantial, or a movement so to speak? Maybe he did fail, but its kind of hard to believe that the Apostles would base a religious movement on a complete failure. I am in agreement with an earlier reply. Jesus was the political and social answer to the power of the Caesars. But, if he had not achieved anything significant, or failed, would it not be prudent to borrow facts from Caesars life, from Mithras, bacchus, etc? If the man had no substance, you have to fill in the gaps.
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    Was Jesus Caesar?

    I appreciate everyones responses. I will offer a review of his book, once I purchase it. Hopefully cheaply!
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    Was Jesus Caesar?

    You may be right Faustus. Julian the Apostate envisioned the institution of a Roman philanthropic system, and cared for the behaviour and the morality of the pagan priests, in the hope that it would mitigate the reliance of pagans on Christian charity: "These impious Galileans not only feed their own poor, but ours also; welcoming them into their agapae, they attract them, as children are attracted, with cakes. Whilst the pagan priests neglect the poor, the hated Galileans devote themselves to works of charity, and by a display of false compassion have established and given effect to their pernicious errors. See their love-feasts, and their tables spread for the indigent. Such practice is common among them, and causes a contempt for our gods." Most definitely could have been the poor man and slaves answer to the ruling classes Caesar. I appreciate all the responses, they are very enlightening to say the least.
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    Was Jesus Caesar?

    He may be wrong on that assertion I grant you, but the Jews had a habit of borrowing other cultures stories for their own books and what not. Many believe that Imhotep was the basis for Joseph, and that possibly Sumerian creation myths, the Akkadian Epic, and the stories of Gilgamesh were the sources from which the Great Flood were born. Lets look at that event alone. In the Book of Enoch and Book of Jubilee, of which the 2nd century BC 1st Book of Enoch is an apocryphon, it modifies the Genesis flood story by saying that God sent the Great Flood to rid the earth of the Nephilim, the titanic children of the Grigori, the "sons of God" mentioned in Genesis and of human females. The Book of Enoch enjoyed great prestige around the time of Jesus and is quoted directly in the New Testament, but failed to gain admittance to the Jewish and Christian canon. That smacks of Paganism and the supernatural, so we can see why later authors retconned it out. Given that Josephus and others claim that Caesar was very tolerant of the Jews, and they seemed to respect him, I think he would be the most likely candidate to use as source material for embellishing Jesus a bit. I do believe Jesus existed, so there, I am at odds with the author, but there are so many holes in his story, he needed a serious makeover. Julius Caesar, Mithraism, Dionysus, Bacchus, all probably used to fill in the gaps. Just my thoughts. I want to read the book first before I cast my vote for Carrota!
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    Julius Caesar and Alexander the Great--of the gods?

    I think he may well have, and we all know Octavian, err, excuse me, the divine Augustus, had no issue exploiting his bloodline through the work of Virgil's Aenead. Caesar did run for Pontifex Maximus, accumulating a huge debt, which basically either assured his ruin, or his success. It was a gamble to get himself and his family out of obscurity, but everything in his life seemed to be a gamble. After the civil war, he established the Julian Calendar, and built the Forum of Caesar, with its Temple of Venus Genetrix, which concurs with your assertion that he sought to use it again to further his name and family.
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    Julius Caesar and Alexander the Great--of the gods?

    According to wikipedia, and I am using it because I am at the library, away from my books, Lucius Julius Libo was a member of the influential Julii clan, whose patrician family was always of the most distinguished blood, however they had long since fallen out of the inner Roman elite. Libo descended from the Julii who fled from Alba Longa to Rome, a city that was destroyed by the Roman king Tullus Hostilius. His ancestors claim their descent from the goddess Venus and the first Roman king Romulus. Libo was consul in 267 BC, and his son of the same name was father to Numerius Julius Caesar, born before 300 BC. Numerius himself, was a grandfather to Sextus Julius Caesar I. Considering that the Julii had long since fallen into disfavor, I can easily see how young Julius would use the myth to further his career, but it seems, he was not the first to do so. So obviously it did not have the effect that the family had hoped for. I think it far more likely that this only fueled his desire for glory more and set into motion the events we all know so well. I mean how can a descendant of venus not be in the in crowd! I hope this helps.
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    Conn Iggulden Books

    Never read them, but I intend to. I did not know he had a Genghis Kahn series, so yet another book to buy!
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    Was Jesus Caesar?

    I will do so My lady, and I am honored that you asked. I edited my above post because I was making an addition while you were replying. It goes... I really appreciate all the comments. At the very least, it makes you think and realize just how fragile, and desperate these earlier believers of Christ were. They needed the people of the Empire to legitimize their religion. For instance, Cornelius the Centurion, who was stationed in Caesarea (Taken from wikipedia, so it may have errors). He is depicted in the New Testament as a God-fearing man who always prayed and was full of good works and deeds of alms. Cornelius receives a vision in which an angel of God tells him that his prayers have been heard. The angel then instructs Cornelius to send the men of his household to Joppa, where they will find Simon Peter, who is residing with a tanner by the name of Simon. The conversion of Cornelius only comes after yet another vision given to Simon Peter himself; in Simon Peter's vision, he sees all manner of four-footed beasts and birds of the air being lowed from Heaven in a sheet. A voice commands Simon Peter to eat. When he objects to eating those animals that are unclean to Mosaic Law, the voice tells him not to call unclean that which God has cleansed. When Cornelius' men arrive, Simon Peter understands that the vision permits the conversion of the Gentiles. When Cornelius himself meets Simon Peter, Cornelius falls at his feet in adoration. Picking Cornelius up, Simon Peter welcomes him. After the two men share their visions, and Simon Peter tells of Jesus' ministry and the Resurrection, the Holy Spirit falls on everyone at the gathering. The Jews among the group are amazed that Cornelius and other uncircumcised should begin speaking in tongues, praising God. Thereupon Simon Peter orders that Cornelius and his followers be baptized. Ok, they had no issue using a Roman centurion, which to me, seems very calculated, so why not integrate major mosaics of Caesar's life into the very obscure or ficticious life of Jesus?
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    Was Jesus Caesar?

    I don't think he is (and mind you I have not read the book) claiming that the Jews did, afterall, they did not believe Jesus was their Messiah. I think it more likely that later Christians, when the new church was developing, used some of Caesar's story, as well as others. But I do not think he implied the Jews borrowed Caesars life. If he did, and I will find it, then that I disagree with his assertion, as you do.
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    Was Jesus Caesar?

    Caldrail, can you elaborate on this? I am not familiar with it at all. Overall, I think that this theory has merit because, as others have stated above, it makes Jesus more attractive to the people of the Empire, and whether they knew it, or not, they were comfortable with this myth, as it probably seemed very familiar to them on a subconscious level. But Caesar was not the only myth to be 'borrowed'. Mithraism, which still was widespread in the military ranks, and as someone said earlier, Bacchus and Dionysus. They took what they needed, whether it be backstories of great men, days of religious worship, or festivals. I wish I could find that image from a 3rd century tomb mosaic in Rome, where Jesus is now pulling apollo's chariot! I think it is really quite clever. After a few generations of slight alteration, eventually the old myth is replaced, and we are left with the Jesus myth. Thats my two cents.
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    Was Jesus Caesar?

    LOL. Yes, that initial thing was the clincher for me! Thank you for the welcome my lady. Here is a link to the guys site, which goes farther in depth of his theory. Was Jesus Caesar
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