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  1. And the very first again by vimeo (really sharp when you click fullscreen icon), and the last bonus unclickable ... Rome 1 http://vimeo.com/54083907 Interlude EDIT... HeHe, it's fun to watch the pairs of two videos running at the same time.. i can rotate my convertible laptop screen sideways for good large view of both.
  2. Ok, here is a try to make those later snippets clickable, this time using vimeo. Rome 2 http://vimeo.com/54084908 Rome 3 http://vimeo.com/54085755
  3. You know how cable tv is forced to carry a bunch of amateur local channels at your expense... usually an outlet for cranks and kooks? Well, we have a quite redeeming one that often covers some travel to ancient roman sites, but unfortunately in low def like this one on pompeii . That is a youtube version, but there should be a nicer vimeo version somewhere. Anyway, I noticed more recent versions are stored online in higher def. Look at this amazing coverage of a tour of much of the archeo part of Rome by segway. My point is NOT to show the novel segway transportation, or the fact that it is a vacation type tour, or even the slightly fractured explanations by the well meaning Italian or US guide. What looks strange? Holy cow, the crowds are sparse enough to see the sights, let alone plow thru them on wheels. I think the trick is they traveled in the fall/early winter rainy season and chanced upon a clear crisp day. Other parts of that trip were deep into gloom and wetness... but for this we can reap the benefits below. And as a bonus, I will include one of his Venice clips... not showing the best of venice or music, but the best hair flipping accompaniment of classical music (in the vivaldi chapel I think). EDIT: WHY CAN'T I MAKE THE LAST 3 LINKS CLICKABLE? I HAVE NO NEED FOR THE VIDEO INSET ANYWAY.
  4. Hmm... i'm having the most trouble getting the reply box to accept any input. Anyway, i wanted to point out that the london episode also touches on the roman period, although as always in too brief scenes that benefit by freeze framing. They say london was uniquely blessed with brick making material due to the foot of the glaciers dumping just the right kind of rock flour on it. Sort of like the way rome was uniquely blessed with cement deposits from volcanos.
  5. The whole series of cities is currently rerunning on the discovery science channel. It's a bit weak on logical content but has luscious highdef views once in a while worthy of freeze framing. I wonder if they are correct that 90% of roman aquaducts are underground, especially because they are only now finding the path of some of the tunnels. There seem to be teaser or maybe entire versions on the web, sometimes with lots of commercials. These may behave differently depending on your location. Yesterday a canadian .ca site seemed to offer the whole film (it's one of those canuck subsidized documentaries) but now I can't find the site. Today I get some clips from http://science.discovery.com/tv-shows/strip-the-city/videos/roman-hill-of-garbage.htm which starts with commercials and a clip that I think was missing from the actual show. Then it appears to go on to the actual show. You can try for other options with something like http://www.bing.com/search?q=strip+the+city+ancient+rome+discovery+science&qs=n&form=QBRE&pq=strip+the+city+ancient+rome+discovery+science&sc=0-27&sp=-1&sk=
  6. There was a documentary on one of the discovery channels deconstructing parts of ancient rome. I think you can bring it up on the web, if not catching a rebroadcast. I was puzzled by their speculation of why the crater lake overflowed, because the same scenario in modern camaroon lakes killed most folks due to the flow of (heavy) co2 rather than water flow (which the romans recorded).
  7. Also on a top end Apple Macbook Pro 17, the most useful "new content" way of accessing these forums is still virtually unreadable: http://www.unrv.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=active Essentially the same as my picture above, with no contrast of font over background.
  8. Best to visit British Museum a couple or three short times rather than one long time because they chronically close down sections due to staff shortages. Maybe fit in their evening hours for one but that can be the worst for closing juicy roman stuff, maybe in a darkened hall behind a rope.
  9. EDIT==> NOTE... The problem comes in the new posts mode. Also the font for the post edit button is near invisible light grey. It's still a brutal lack of contrast of color or intensity, even on my brand new convertible laptop (Lenovo yoga 13, the most cool but buggy morphing tablet). If it just temporary on the way to the example posted earlier, that's fine. But as now if you don't have the most recent or whizzy design, the colors can fold together to look about blank. And that's not even accounting for vision issues. Good vision is actually a mirage... your eye is actually transmitting a messy image due to many things, like the spaghetti cluster of nerves that connect on the front rather than back side of the sensors. And middle age folks go thru a jelly detachment (PVD) that puts more or less debris floating around. Your brain rebuilds and cleans up the image best it can, but it is a fragile process that can suddenly be overwhelmed. Then you see the real mess, and can benefit by strong font contrast. I have always hated the black and white extreme contrast, but have rarely encountered the opposite low contrast extreme or support of it.
  10. the new color gives unreadible topic titles in my tablet... almost zero contrast of dark brown over dark, dark grey (clic the pic) Edit... now when i switch to a laptop some contrast can be seen in my pic... but on a pretty powerful large tablet, the text vs background colors show almost no difference
  11. See http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/ashes-to-ashes-the-latter-day-ruin-of-pompeii/ for inefficient spending, as well as the claim from another source the sites tolerate 70% absentee rate for gov't staff. Europe is using austerity instead of stimulus to solve fiscal problems. Normally you could hope that stimulus builds tax money thru increased economic activity, but i guess they consider the entitlement rot too intractable unless you starve the economic beast. So unless there is some sugar daddy like a billionaire or berlesconi...
  12. Hmmm, an electoral college isnt needed to implement a little math weighting... and indirect (overridable) voting was in play already for electing congress by state reps back then. But anyway what irks me most about the system is how states are allowed to erase the votes of their minority and vote for president as a block (winner takes all). Its hard to argue with legally tho, because the federal gov't was created to be at the service to the states as entities. However US state independence can be a protection against mob rule, at least letting you switch to a mob that you hate less. The supreme court is increasingly failing to protect state rights, most recently for the unaffordable healthcare act. Niccolo by the way advocated a ruthless court to keep the politically powerful in line, although maybe from a french rather than roman example. I would say europe and increasingly the us is falling under mob rule, where you basically vote yourself possessions of your harder working or wiser spending neighbor. The leaders knowingly support failing tax policy, and push it thru demogogery. The tax attack on high incomes brings hardly any revenue at all compared to expenditures, even if it didnt kill their risk-taking creation of new economic activity (and its potential tax revenue). This is proven by the small diversity not yet stamped out, where us states that have or plan smaller or zero income tax are booming, while the ones increasing it are in fiscal death spirals. Machiavelli advocated a mix of democracy and elites and a figurehead ruler like republican rome or UK monarchy. Actually, the Wiemar republic was originally supposed to be that kind of british model, with maybe a respected but weak Hindenburg at top and some elites like a house of lords all sharing power with the everyman... which might have been more resistant to a populist brownshirt infiltration because they could only legally replace the commoner elements of govt. Another example of mob rule is when leaders knowingly kowtow to and push populist green measures that actually sabotage green-ness. Block and harass the changeover to abundant and clean natural gas... let it just flare off wastefully and promote impractical expensive subsidized alternatives. Pretend you do green work by banning pipelines, and force more dangerous, spillable, expensive transport by road or rail. Just a few years ago, the people in power would temper populism with sane judgement from knowing more facts about the issue than joe sixpack. Niccolo looked to periods of Rome and elsewhere to systematically solve or at least refine such problems of a republic. Maybe i havent done it justice, but readers here should find his Livy discourses easy to scan over. I like the way he breaks down issues into multiple possible approaches, and says for instance approach c has often been disasterous (like hiring mercenaries) which Rome avoided.
  13. It used to be common to relate Roman history to pivotal issues of the day. I ran across a couple examples I will share. First is a speech from U.S. ambassador to Germany 1933 on Economic Nationalism http://docs.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/psf/box32/t299b09.html And it goes on and on about how the example of Rome disproves the viability of national socialism. I looked it up since the new book "In the Garden of Beasts" mostly ridicules that ambassador except for the good reception of that speech, even by the targets of it in the audience. He was said to be an ineffective academic type who was sabotaged by his (married) daughter sleeping with many German adversaries... therefore his German confidants didn't dare give him valuable information which might be leaked back by his daughter. Another example is Machiavelli's "Discourses Upon The First Ten (Books) of Titus Livy" http://www.constitution.org/mac/disclivy_.htm . Did you know that Niccolo's work http://www.constitution.org/mac/niccolo.htm is generally a love poem to ancient Rome and it's happy republican ways? Did you know Niccolo is not "Machiavellian" in the sense that he never intended "The Prince" to be published or applied to any but very rare and dysfunctional situations that were facing the Medici's or certain failing Italian city states? Well, that's what I gather from the course http://www.thegreatcourses.com/tgc/courses/Course_Detail.aspx?cid=4311 (now under $30).
  14. The problem is if they have reconstructed it to artificially appear as a market, based on fancy and not evidence. Both that market and ostia antica have a lot of features that ring false to me... they dont have that slightly alien and thrilling ancient roman feel, and i asume that is due to overeager and ideological rather than archeological driven fascist era reconstruction. Well, that has been criticized, but here is a summary that puts that effort in some positive light... getting things done where moderns would delay and shrink from: http://courses.umass.edu/latour/Italy/Mussolini/index.html P.S. saw a good recent episode of 'unearthing ancient secrets' about roman engineering of colosseum, aquaducts, and the pantheon. I dont get why aquaducts were built sometimes half again too long in needless zig zags to maintain the gentle slope. They say to prevent wear from fast moving water, but why not save tremendous construction and ongoing maintence by having special water ladder drop downs like we do now for fish to climb? I'd suspect the builders were paid by the length, and like taxi drivers were padding the distance, but that seems too brazen.
  15. Below find a review on Shopping in Ancient Rome: The Retail Trade in the Late Republic and the Principate by Claire Holleran Oxford, 304 pp,
  16. Ho ho he he... yes, i felt that "unnerving" aspect was the elephant in the room, and had considered defending it in my first example of irish immigrants dying on jobs too dangerous for US slaves (digging malarial canals and such). Before proposing the greater good of that arrangement, allow me to unburdan what unnerved me. The whole issue of romans torturing innocent slaves as a routine procedure before they are called to legally testify irks me, to say the least. Actually the rules do address real issues where the slaves would be motivated to hide important truths, and later laws were issued to apply this less widely. I think we dont know much of how this was implemented, so i propose to dream up an acceptable modern version. Many murders in the US are done in public with witnesses. The witnesses wont say a word when police ask, because their neighborhood is under threat of revenge killings by the thugs. So how about we reinstate torture of witnesses, for the good of all?! Force them to eat only healthy food in moderation, watch only educational tv (ballet?), and listen only to opera. Bam, they will finger the street gangs so comprehensively, the neighborhood becomes quiet except for the crunch of cheese doodles. Well, back to the sweatshops. Maybe rome as well as a few modern places has congealed social mobility, but normally this can be a ladder for motivating folks to better themselves. The irish climbed out of desperation and hostility as famine immigrants to the US, just like 3rd world asian immigrants leapfrog to sucess today (in spite of highly discriminated against by univ. Calif. admission racial quotas, due to predicted good success). Meanwhile the long time residents of rustbelt declining cities, instead of relocating towards jobs like their recent ancestors did, are encouraged to stagnate as a paid off victimology group. I traveled thru crummy third world areas long ago that have uplifted themselves tremendously since, thru willingly tackling bad jobs such as in east asia. Counterexamples, like enduring indian sweatshops actually seem the product of blind compassion rather than tough darwinian love. Their govt puts a smothering restraint on details of the economy like preserving outdated jobs, and little attention on the normal functions of govt. Southern europe is also suffering from superficial generosity rather than tough fairness. Aww, i'm running out of steam before completing the case, but it is natural for free people to better themselves unless there is social or environmental interferance. The slaves were the oppressed ones (with some roman exceptions), but at least had a slight safety net in being worth more when healthy. The bottom rung of free workers at least had a shot of changing their profession or location. I was trying to connect the dots to this amazing psychology book presentation of how blind compassion sometimes leads to unfairness and loss of liberty, but time is up... http://www.booktv.org/Watch/13277/The+Righteous+Mind+Why+Good+People+Are+Divided+by+Politics+and+Religion.aspx
  17. From 'as the romans did' i note even the romans could recognize slave health was an asset to protect. Varo, on agriculture, says 'it is more profitable to work unhealthy areas with hired workers than with slaves'... and presumably better than jeopardizing indentured servants promise of work, which he was also discussing. Also that book quotes 'the digest of laws' as saying in spite of laws declaring slaves as nonentities, 'according to the law of nature, all men are equal'. I note that the US constitution tried to head off a socialist interpretation of this by saying 'all men are created equal'. I guess it all depends on the point of time... the early republic didn't even have slaves iirc. Later in the empire, there seemed to arise more humane rules for slave treatment although i dont know if well enforced. Hadrian got positively soft hearted in banning the torture of all slaves before testifying in court... well he at least banned fishing expeditions of torture then testifying of slaves who probably weren't witnesses.
  18. Yeah, this morning i had a heartwarming forum exchange, solving each others problems in Azerbaijan and some other far flung place. But also i am standing back from other forum discussions i initiated that met vicious attacks and rage on with neanderthal debate. I sense this forum kind of holds back engagement at times to steer way clear of that. The harvard professor made a point that live, nondigital contact is key due to you being able to read puzzlement in the face of your listener, and having to reset. I guess in this forum we could reply with puzzled emoticons. Really, there are demographic trends toward young highly educated types clustering up in trendy cities, although they avoid cold weather ones. We know the cases of retreating to idyllic empty spots, but that tends to be older folks who know what they want to focus on. I think cities are of most value as a temporary developmental thing that broadens your perspectives and might shatter complacent assumptions, although may end up seeming banal once the lesson is learned. From a backwoods background, new york, paris, and hong kong were a huge revelation to me; now they annoy me. Nowdays you can retreat but keep certain compartmentalized sophistication alive with the internet. And not only contact in the form of chit-chat; i have found sources of inexpensive favorite foreign food i can order by internet. I just guiltily quit ordering complete ready meals sourced from thailand... they weighed a ton since no water or prep was needed, and the free shipping must have cost them a fortune. I still order (actually subscribe to) certain special pasta sourced from italy with free shipping, after finding local versions hopeless. There is another proposal of turning education upside down with internet tools by the famous originator of http://www.khanacademy.org which gives short cliff-notes videos on subjects (romans not well covered). He proposes kids watch lecture videos at home, then all classtime is doing homework with close teacher supervision: http://www.booktv.org/Watch/13882/After+Words+Salman+Khan+The+One+World+Schoolhouse+Education+Reimagined+hosted+by+Nina+Rees+National+Alliance+of+Public+Charter+Schools.aspx
  19. I woud like to wrap up with a quote about rome as a magnet, but i cant locate it again, even in the section of plus and minuses of city life. Anyway it went along the lines of even folks with comfy country villas wanted to be in near visiting distance to the exciting powerhouse of rome. This was underscored and perhaps explained by a dazzling lecture i just saw by a harvard professor on his book (please excuse my pasted in syntax) Triumph+of+the+City+How+Our+Greatest+Invention+Makes+Us+Richer+Smarter+Greener+Healthier+and+Happier who sees cities as learning machines, where your proximity to smart people measurably raises your knowledge and income just by being near. And the appearence of poverty is a measure of the pluses cities offer to the poor who flock in from rural areas. I found an online lecture by him which is unfortunately US and nyc centric due to his audience, but think of the principles he espouses, and how they may apply to rome... maybe pioneers of benefits of urban life... http://www.booktv.org/Watch/12286/Triumph+of+the+City+How+Our+Greatest+Invention+Makes+Us+Richer+Smarter+Greener+Healthier+and+Happier.aspx
  20. Pliny the younger goes on and on about the the brilliant configuration of every room of his amazing seaside villa retreat. Every view and angle to the sun seems optimized beyond imagination... how could life be that well contrived so long ago? My home also happens to have an odd wraparound corridor, which on the surface seems to waste floor space and lengthen walk times, but does have the advantage he describes. One of a number of depressing sounding tributes to ideal female behavior... so self sacrificing for family procreation. I realize reproduction needed an intense focus due to high mortality of kids, but the romans seemed in a better position than most of the ancients to allow a wider role of women.
  21. I was channel surfing by a 1965 movie "von ryans express" with no particular interest... except it depicted ww2 pows escaping thru all sorts of roman ruins! Darn, it wasnt broadcast in hi def, but my decoder let me back up and review the various site backgrounds in their state almost half a century ago. This could be a type of thing to look for if there are other classic movies like that. It reminded me of the quite different italy i first saw almost 30 years ago. Pokey trains, dysfunctional queues, but sweeter in different ways. Just slightly off the beaten track you could get lost in magnificent unguarded ruins. Part of the movie seems to be among the palentine palaces that are down near the racetrack. Now off limits i think, but i accidentally stumbled among them long ago, not seeing any person or forbidden sign. I remember the most fancy tiled floor i can imagine (all wavey and fragile looking), and felt terrible walking on it but could see no other way to exit. Well, they may have included caraculan baths and tivoli. You could see that bakers monument by the wall from the train... surely that and other views must be obscured by buildings now? Things seemed in better preservation although casually unkempt... still worth it to freeze frame on details even if you recently saw it live. And i noticed the light upon marble used to have exactly that warm yellow quality they showed around rome. That sounds silly, but i think it is the type of pollution from high sulfur fuels of that era, and you could see an ugly yellow haze near the horizon. But looking at marble, it acted like amber shooting glasses and enhanced detail (due to blocking blue, which is less focusable), and even gives that happy feeling like candlelight vs flourescent. Now we seem to have a bright white slight haze type of pollution, which can wash out detail (clear days still common then and now). I cant vouch for that long movie being worth it in normal entertainment terms, but did notice the female star (who gets killed by frank sinatra) should be known by those of uswho saw the viral youtube video posted in this forum.. Raffaella Carra is the blonde dancer in the video with nonsense lyrics meant to sound like english to non english speakers, and here is the dance sequence alone without some of the cute color interruptions done in the viral remix job: http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMoK0focAFE
  22. I thought i would post a few quotes and notes on "as the romans did" book by jo-ann shelton... Thats why i love them! In a few moments of viewing their architecture and especially their statues of real people (vs mythic fluff) i get the gist of their sublime values listed below without needing years of scholarly study. Wow, i think that last note is very dated and shows i am using the older 1988 version of this book. But maybe i shouldnt over idealize the past like dionysius does starting on p 194. He calls the once noble freeing of slaves turned into a corrupt dysfunctional process. Slaves poisoning masters with slave-freeing wills, slaves turning to vice to earn cash for freedom, and even masters freeing slaves for selfish reasons. Ah, the good old days when fellow citizens were upright freed slaves rather than corrupt ones, he bemoans. She points out this spread across the western world, and another author mentioned it spread further thru colonization of asia and africa. The other author mentioned it was altered thru uk common law somehow though... maybe napoleonic too? What a contrast of these positive points from 1988 uc santa barbara to another branch of univ calif berkeley, whose current online course seems to condemn rome as simply evil.
  23. I think there is a similar cluster of waiting skeletons at the base of a shoreside cliff at pompeii. Not labelled and you can barely see as you exit the site from that quite isolated (but connected by walkway) well preserved villa with the many painted rooms. An archeo book told me about it, and i think the least bad view was almost straddling the exit gate or at a restroom door just beyond the gate. Anyway a couple years ago i revisited herculeum and found the walkways improved, and on reflection the drainage ditches were elaborated. But i still think the basic protection from the weather and tourists was in a shambles. In one day a handyman could go around and greatly improve cockeyed tin roofs no longer aligned over frescos, etc. I realize pompeii is in a worse mess, but i think its scale alone makes it more impressive. But herculeum has vast areas not yet dug up. I hope packard the benefactor for this restoration sold his hp stock long ago... the company which really invented silicon valley is in a dozen year death spiral due to horrible management. Norway and other places with gender mandates for corp leaders should take note of the catastrophe that ensued when hewlett-packard was the first big company to overlook experience and track record for a female placeholder. Not a reasonable one, like several you see at the helms today, but someone who bled the company in half during a good economy. And it continued to replace ceos with more "inclusive" but tech ignorant male and female characters, and now the employees, the shareholders, and the legacy face impending extinction.
  24. Rome is increasingly demonized for slavery, ignoring the softer edge it often had relative to peer societies. In fact, a few tweaks of their law might have made it much nicer, if i fairly interpret the depiction by the book "as the romans did". That book enumerates all the ways you may become a slave, and i note almost all of them could be considered as a rescue from possible death. Children left to starve, political or military rebels given a reprieve... only very briefly was this applied to debtors as opposed to indentured servitude. Ok, some folks were illegally put in chains, but that wasn't condoned. The regretable exception are those born into slavery... better if the romans made them indentured servants beside their parents until adulthood. There is the positive issue of the many ways of exiting slavery, both given and earned. The children of these freedman gained treasured citizenship, and one source claims most of the citizens of rome descended from these freedman and upset the others due to sometimes not sharing values, etc. Here i think the romans were maybe too generous and should have required some earned way to citizenship. As for the treatment of slaves, some urban ones had it extremely easy and could either enjoy life or make themselves rich (then free). But what about most of them, like the farming slaves? I think they could have improved things by not allowing a slave to be a foreman. This is a well known way to create a sadist, as we know from the example of concentration camps. The oppressed person gets an outlet for revenge, and does not value the owners need for wellbeing of human property. The worst case treatment seems to be in mining. I can only guess the owners squandered the health and lifespans of those slaves because it was so profitable relative to the price of replacement slaves. Even in southern us the most dangerous construction projects were not done by slaves, but new irish immigrants eager for any wages. This is because the us had very early banned imports of slaves which made their replacement cost sky high... so rome might have at least introduced a slave sales tax. Mine work isnt inherantly hard... you could have many short shifts thru the day for instance, but this would skyrocket the costs. The us south was equally uniqely cursed after the invention of the cotton gin. Beforehand slavery seemed to be slowly and thankfully dying out, but the cotton gin made it lucrative in rich muddy soils that were hard to otherwise make productive because plow animals sunk in them. Little natchez mississippi had more millionaires than manhattan, but maybe if they were charged a big sales tax for slaves this activity could have dried up without war.
  25. A last followup: just talking this thru to myself has helped, and i will mention my further direction without burdening with future results. So i have found apparent dazzling symbiosis with aspirin and antihistimine for me. It occurs to me that the 4 hour blissful sweet spot is equal to the duration of the published aspirin dose. My next task is to try to extend it to 5 hours by using coated tablets (and avoiding using bayers new fast acting fine granule aspirin). With a good 5 hour sleep, maybe i can jettison the long acting antihistimine which is expensive with side effects. So a regular antihist boosted with the anti inflammatory and other good effects of aspirin. Of course even aspirin can be overdone and i have sourced cheap coated smaller doses online. Use the minimum or none being an ultimate goal.
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