Sextus Roscius

Thank you everyone, its helped clear things up about the Romans and crowns. especialy Tobias, Primus Pilus, and Lex for your in detail history.

While the corona civica was oak leaves, the Luarel Wreath dates back further. You pose a interesting question however, I'm not sure what they did to keep their leaves from dieing lol.

Your most likely right, however even in the most insane and corupt Emporers of the1st and 2nd century A.D. we don't get such a insult to Rome as to have a crown on their ruler. For example, Caligula, famous for being so insane as to dress as athena and beleived himself to have talked with Jupiter and dined with Venus did not wear a crown. I beleive that prehaps the rise of the Christian church over Paganism might have had something to do with it. In christianity God is beleived to be the basicaly Ultimate king. The idealazation of the Christian Emporers being the Profinex Maximus (excuse my poor spelling) of christianity or the pope in esscence might have had something to do with the introduction of the Crown over the Luarel Wreath but I might be flawed on this one.

Tacitus was the best without a doubt, however Livy's style and sometimes prejudice views of other cultures can provide quiet a comparision with what we know about them today. The Etruscans for example were viewed in a one sided way by him which I found pretty funny.

well I know I sure don't, if I did I wouldn't be around here would I. I'll probley get it on the weekend.

Your right, the Emporers where the ones that made the Luarel Wreath famous. However it was a long kept tradition. The little legend goes that durring a triumph a slave stood behind the man recieving the triumph holding the crown above the general's head and wishper into his ear "remember, you're only a man...."

It is well known that Roman Emperors did not wear crowns originally but instead Laurel Wreaths to symbolize that they weren

My Ideal Empire would be one ruled by me. It is constantly expanding and would be based in Europe for Europe is the most beautiful place in the world. I would have wars constantly as is the basis of a Empire for the nessasary expansion. I would rule as Empeor over the whole affair and have my generals and elected politians run things and I'm there to keep things in line, the political system is nessicary to keep the masses in line with a sense of "freedom" I would then have my scientist master the art of human cloning and then select the top 1000 best looking people in the world, they become the army, the navy, the airforce, the marines, and run everything as the endless mindless slaves of the empire. PLEASE NOTE: this is clones we are using which have been geneticaly modified so they have no feelings, not normal every day people. They are used as all labor and such and such Fortunetly, once this is in place I am unoposable with my endless sources of clones and will eventually conquer the world. I will then....well um...haven't quiet gotten past that part in my take over the world scheme yet, but its sure to work.....I think.....oh well.....

When talking about the great Roman Politicians, I think about the politicians of the late republic, Cicero in particular just out of reputation. They all had incredibly infulencal effects on Rome. My favorite of Roman Politicians was Lucius Sergius Catiline. He was a great rebel and was eventually had the ultimate decree invoked against him by Cicero who was consul at the time. But he was also ,according the the few records surviving about him, a fairly well mannered man who had the power to make people follow him. Not enough men aparently.... but thats just my opinion.

Tharacians for me, more heavily armored must of made for a longer and siller match.