GaiaCaesari524 Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 I was wondering if anyone knew what happened to Caesar's remains? I thought they were placed at his temple, but I'm not sure. Is that the case? Are his ashes placed at the altar still? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylla Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 (edited) I was wondering if anyone knew what happened to Caesar's remains? I thought they were placed at his temple, but I'm not sure. Is that the case? Are his ashes placed at the altar still? Usus autem sum, ne in aliquo fallam carissimam mihi familiaritatem tuam, praecipue libris ex bibliotheca Ulpia, aetate mea thermis Diocletianis, et item ex domo Tiberiana, usus etiam [ex] regestis scribarum porticus porphyreticae, actis etiam senatus ac populi. 2 et quoniam me ad colligenda talis viri gesta ephemeris Turduli Gallicani plurimum invit, viri honestissimi ac sincerissimi, beneficium amici senis tacere non debui. 3 Cn. Pompeium, tribus fulgentem triumphis belli piratici, belli Sertoriani, belli Mithridatici multarumque rerum gestarum maiestate sublimem, quis tandem nosset, nisi eum Marcus Tullius et Titus Livius in litteras rettulissent? 4 Publ<i>um Scipionem Afric<an>um, immo Scipiones omnes, seu Lucios seu Nasicas, nonne tenebrae possiderent ac tegerent, nisi commendatores eorum historici nobiles atque ignobiles extitissent? 5 longum est omnia persequi, quae ad exemplum huiusce modi etiam nobis tacentibus usurpanda sunt. 6 illud tantum contestatum volo me et rem scripsisse, quam, si quis voluerit, honestius eloquio celsiore demonstret, et mihi quidem id animi fuit, 6 <ut> non Sallustios, Livios, Tacito<s>, Trogos atque omnes disertissimos imitarer viros in vita principum et temporibus disserendis, sed Marium Maximum, Suetonium Tranquillum, Fabium Marcellinum, Gargilium Martialem, Iulium Capitolinum, Aelium Lampridium ceterosque, qui haec et talia non tam diserte quam vere memoriae tradiderunt. 8 sum enim unus ex curiosis, quod infi[ni]t<i>as ire non possum, ince<n>dentibus vobis, qui, cum multa sciatis, scire multo plura cupitis. 9 et ne diutius ea, quae ad meum consilium pertinent, loquar, magnum et praeclarum principem et qualem historia nostra non novit, arripiam. Edited January 1, 2010 by sylla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maladict Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 ...and they sure aren't there anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylla Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 ...and they sure aren't there anymore. In fact, I haven't been able to found where they are (either Caesar's remains or his familiar tomb). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maladict Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 ...and they sure aren't there anymore. In fact, I haven't been able to found where they are (either Caesar's remains or his familiar tomb). Nothing remains of either. Even the location of the most likely place of burial (the Julian tumulus) is not known with any certainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaiaCaesari524 Posted November 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 ...and they sure aren't there anymore. In fact, I haven't been able to found where they are (either Caesar's remains or his familiar tomb). Nothing remains of either. Even the location of the most likely place of burial (the Julian tumulus) is not known with any certainty. Ah, well thank you for letting me know. That is such a shame. :-( I was really looking forward to seeing it. I know that there is a memorial of sorts at the Temple of Divis Julius, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maladict Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Ah, well thank you for letting me know. That is such a shame. :-( I was really looking forward to seeing it. I know that there is a memorial of sorts at the Temple of Divis Julius, yes? Yes, there is. People regularly place flowers on the remains of what might have been an altar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klingan Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 You might want to know, if you're going there, that the "memorial" under the temple is mainly used by neo-fascists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maladict Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 You might want to know, if you're going there, that the "memorial" under the temple is mainly used by neo-fascists. Yes, I've been baffled my some of the displays I've noticed there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylla Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 I guess Caesar's corpse would have been incinerated for especifically avoiding any political use of it, as it was the case for Alexander Magnus (notoriously from Ptolemy Soter). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaiaCaesari524 Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I guess Caesar's corpse would have been incinerated for especifically avoiding any political use of it, as it was the case for Alexander Magnus (notoriously from Ptolemy Soter). Seriously, well that is quite baffling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaiaCaesari524 Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I guess Caesar's corpse would have been incinerated for especifically avoiding any political use of it, as it was the case for Alexander Magnus (notoriously from Ptolemy Soter). Seriously, well that is quite baffling. Woops! The above comment wasn't meant for that specific post. It was meant for the post regarding the neo-fascists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Porcius Cato Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 You might want to know, if you're going there, that the "memorial" under the temple is mainly used by neo-fascists. Really?? If that's true, I feel even better about spitting on the flowers strewn there! But how do you know that neo-fascists are involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klingan Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 You might want to know, if you're going there, that the "memorial" under the temple is mainly used by neo-fascists. Really?? If that's true, I feel even better about spitting on the flowers strewn there! But how do you know that neo-fascists are involved? I was in Rome last year (scholarship) and had the luck to accompany a member of the staff at the Swedish Institute on a tour of the Forum. He knew a lot of stuff that the guide books won't tell you - and I do trust his word on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maladict Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I believe it was Mussolini who started the tradition of placing flowers (or wreaths) at the temple on the Ides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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