Germanicus 1 Report post Posted March 29, 2005 Hi Spartacus - was that the Battle of Crecy you refer to with British longbow power ending the dominance of French heavy cavalry ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Germanicus 1 Report post Posted March 29, 2005 yeah sorry bout that Sparticus - sitting on my b- Roman Wargamer - can you confirm for me ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leedx7 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2005 29 on the 14th April I think he means Agincourt. Although it has been proven since that the longbow has been slightly overblown...it couldn't penetrate the knights armour, and the French choice of battlefield played a much more important role. Anyway, we still give them a good kicking. (slightly edited my me to make it shorter ) What's he that wishes so? My cousin Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin: If we are mark'd to die, we are enow To do our country loss; and if to live, The fewer men, the greater share of honour. God's will! I pray thee, wish not one man more. By Jove, I am not covetous for gold, Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost; It yearns me not if men my garments wear; Such outward things dwell not in my desires: But if it be a sin to covet honour, I am the most offending soul alive. No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England: God's peace! I would not lose so great an honour As one man more, methinks, would share from me For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more! Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host, That he which hath no stomach to this fight, Let him depart; his passport shall be made And crowns for convoy put into his purse: We would not die in that man's company That fears his fellowship to die with us. This day is called the feast of Crispian: He that outlives this day, and comes safe home, Will stand a tip-toe when the day is named, And rouse him at the name of Crispian. He that shall live this day, and see old age, Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours, And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian:' Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars. And say 'These wounds I had on Crispin's day.' Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages What feats he did that day: then shall our names. Familiar in his mouth as household words Harry the king, Bedford and Exeter, Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester, Be in their flowing cups freshly remember'd. This story shall the good man teach his son; And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by, From this day to the ending of the world, But we in it shall be remember'd; We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile, This day shall gentle his condition: And gentlemen in England now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longbow 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2005 30 But still frisky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcus Regulus 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2005 Well, that isn't abad thing right? hey, I am not too far behind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scaevola 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2005 41-years-old here. Spartatcus is older though. He's older than dirt, me... I'm a dancer! :punk: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hamilcar Barca 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2005 was that the Battle of Crecy you refer to with British longbow power ending the dominance of French heavy cavalry ? For the record, the longbow won many victories for the English during the CYear war. Crecy is but one example, other great victories also occurred at Auberoche (1345), Poiters (1356) and Agincourt (1415). They had lost their advantage by the 16th Century though, the French simply used cannon fire to break up their ranks such as at Castilion in 1453. I always did like Crecy though, here is a write-up for it from The battles of CYear War that I did a while ago. Crecy 1346 English Victory The Battle of Crecy took place on the 26th of August, 1346 in northeren France and is commonly known as a/the battle which ended heavy chivalry. Outnumbered 12,000 to 35,000, Edward III took up a defensive position on a hill and waited for the French under Phillip IV to engage him. Despite their inferior numbers, The Welsh longbowmen both outranged and outfired the French crossbowers who were pinned down and thrown into confusion and panic. Phillip then ordered a full cavalry charge but Edward had anticipated this and prior to battle had constructed pits, trenches and spiked defences (caltrops) to disrupt and cripple the French horse. The Longbowmen all the while continued to inflict enormous casualties whilst the footmen effortlessly repelled all that evaded their defences. The result was a humiliating defeat for Phillip with 15,000 killed and many more wounded. The English estimated their dead at 200. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silentium 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2005 I'm 19 (cerebral age:2 =)) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longbow 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2005 The Battle of Crecy took place on the 26th of August, 1346 in northeren France and is commonly known as a/the battle which ended heavy chivalry. Outnumbered 12,000 to 35,000, Edward III took up a defensive position on a hill and waited for the French under Phillip IV to engage him. Despite their inferior numbers, The Welsh longbowmen both outranged and outfired the French crossbowers who were pinned down and thrown into confusion and panic. Phillip then ordered a full cavalry charge but Edward had anticipated this and prior to battle had constructed pits, trenches and spiked defences (caltrops) to disrupt and cripple the French horse. The Longbowmen all the while continued to inflict enormous casualties whilst the footmen effortlessly repelled all that evaded their defences. The result was a humiliating defeat for Phillip with 15,000 killed and many more wounded. The English estimated their dead at 200. Crecy is my favorite battle,after reading about it i went out and got myself a longbow and have been doing archery ever since. L Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roman wargamer 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2005 We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile, This day shall gentle his condition: re post by leedx7 yes this is what i mean to be. but not to mean that Crecy War be delegeted. to be honest , most of my information and information reading is inadequate For the record, the longbow won many victories for the English during the CYear war. Crecy is but one example, other great victories also occurred at Auberoche (1345), Poiters (1356) and Agincourt (1415). They had lost their advantage by the 16th Century though, the French simply used cannon fire to break up their ranks such as at Castilion in 1453.post by long bow it just happen it occur to my mind when i post my age. and i read that article more than 20 years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hamilcar Barca 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2005 What article are you referring too wargamer? I wrote that info on Crecy 3 months ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longbow 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2005 i tried to qoute it,never quite worked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roman wargamer 0 Report post Posted April 2, 2005 What article are you referring too wargamer? I wrote that info on Crecy 3 months ago. my apology to Hamilcar Barca... if you are the original on this post. it just happen that i normally visit only 2 to 3 times a week and hours only per visit. thats why you will notice , most of my reply are sometimes too late for few days. that cause me to be not updated and have some lapses on information. Crecy 1346 English Victory original post by Hamilcar Barca The Battle of Crecy took place on the 26th of August, 1346 in northeren France and is commonly known as the battle which ended heavy cavalry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demson 0 Report post Posted April 2, 2005 Oh no Does this mean I am the oldest Well, I'm not sure if this helps, Spartacus. I'm seventeen but I feel like sixty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fafnir 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2005 Im fifteen... Zeke, how many months til you turn sixteen? I just may be the youngest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites