Virgil61 3 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 Opinions on the status of Theodore Mommsen, Hans Delbr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Centurion-Macro 3 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 Reading any historian is of benefit. If we still read people like Plutarch and Herodotus, I fail to see why these men should be any different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virgil61 3 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 Reading any historian is of benefit. If we still read people like Plutarch and Herodotus, I fail to see why these men should be any different. There's the obvious answer that the difference is Plutarch and Herodotus become primary sources in their own right. Not only their subject matter but they become the object of study and a mirror into the thinking of the classical world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viggen 95 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 ..i would like to add to the discussion a work from forum member Wotwotius on some of the mentioned writers http://www.unrv.com/academia/intrusive-ideology.php cheers viggen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Klingan 2 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 Well, they are always going to be useful for our understanding of how we know (read: come to think we know) what we know. There are a lot of ideas floating around that were actually just made up back then that we simply take for facts now and use as a basis for further interpretations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ursus 6 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 I've never actually read a history book on Rome that is older than 30-40 years (aside from the primary sources). I think Scullard would be the oldest. Am I missing anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virgil61 3 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 (edited) dbl post... Edited May 23, 2011 by Virgil61 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virgil61 3 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 (edited) I've never actually read a history book on Rome that is older than 30-40 years (aside from the primary sources). I think Scullard would be the oldest. Am I missing anything? I think we should all read Gibbon in his entirety [i myself have not, only sections here and there]. If only because he's so influential. Well, they are always going to be useful for our understanding of how we know (read: come to think we know) what we know. There are a lot of ideas floating around that were actually just made up back then that we simply take for facts now and use as a basis for further interpretations. We're always on the lookout for something new and fresh what with the pressures of academia and publications. Edited May 23, 2011 by Virgil61 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virgil61 3 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 ..i would like to add to the discussion a work from forum member Wotwotius on some of the mentioned writers http://www.unrv.com/academia/intrusive-ideology.php cheers viggen Wonderful stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonic 42 Report post Posted May 24, 2011 (edited) Well, they are always going to be useful for our understanding of how we know (read: come to think we know) what we know. There are a lot of ideas floating around that were actually just made up back then that we simply take for facts now and use as a basis for further interpretations. I agree. Yet the fact that their opinions were accepted as the truth shows how influential they still are. Yet in my opinion the main reason to read them is because, on the whole, they had a far greater grasp on the original source material, both due to their training in Latin and Ancient Greek, and because they had more time in which to research and write their books. When doing research, I always consult the older books and religiously check their references (where given). This has resulted in the finding of little-known or forgotten snippets of information. I especially like Bury for this. Edited May 24, 2011 by sonic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites