marcus brutus Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 im only 13 and i know more bout romen history and military than anyone in my town, anyway my favorite romen figure is marcus junius brutus i know he killed ceaser and all, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primus Pilus Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Brutus, a promising young man, but unfortunately so easily manipulated by the politically blind 'Boni'. To think, without the support of Brutus, the assassination may not have even been attemtped and Caesar may had just a bit more time to stabilize his fledgling form of government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus brutus Posted September 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Brutus, a promising young man, but unfortunately so easily manipulated by the politically blind 'Boni'. To think, without the support of Brutus, the assassination may not have even been attemtped and Caesar may had just a bit more time to stabilize his fledgling form of government. yes he was naive.but a great fighter all the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost_Warrior Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Being a good fighter doesn't stop me from wanting to choke him. (I don't want to dwell on that. it makes me sad) What is it about Brutus that you particularly admire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus brutus Posted September 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Being a good fighter doesn't stop me from wanting to choke him.(I don't want to dwell on that. it makes me sad) What is it about Brutus that you particularly admire? the truth my friend is not preety.iwas reading a book called emperor gates of rome by ionn calging and brutus was in it i grew found of him and started reasearching him. and dont worry when i grow up i dont want to kill ceaser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Favonius Cornelius Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Being a good fighter doesn't stop me from wanting to choke him.(I don't want to dwell on that. it makes me sad) What is it about Brutus that you particularly admire? the truth my friend is not preety.iwas reading a book called emperor gates of rome by ionn calging and brutus was in it i grew found of him and started reasearching him. and dont worry when i grow up i dont want to kill ceaser I don't think there is anything wrong with killing a Caesar, but there is something wrong with not having a plan after the deed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primus Pilus Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Being a good fighter doesn't stop me from wanting to choke him.(I don't want to dwell on that. it makes me sad) What is it about Brutus that you particularly admire? the truth my friend is not preety.iwas reading a book called emperor gates of rome by ionn calging and brutus was in it i grew found of him and started reasearching him. and dont worry when i grow up i dont want to kill ceaser I don't think there is anything wrong with killing a Caesar, but there is something wrong with not having a plan after the deed. I also dont have a problem with the killing of a Caesar... the original problem was killing the Caesar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longbow Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 iwas reading a book called emperor gates of rome by ionn calging The Brutus character in Conn Igguldens novels is far from historicaly accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus Artemis Sertorius Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 From what I have read on the subject of Brutus, he wasn't all that much of a fighter. I don't seem to remember him playing a major part in any battle or winning any kind of fame as an athelete. In fact, I think I once read that he tended to lean more towards the academic end of the spectrum. Besides, would a true "great fighter" would probably have done it a little differently. Perhaps stabbing his victim in the front while looking him in the eyes? Ceasar being the person he was deserved at least that much, whether you agree with his policies and actions or not. Great men deserve that degree of dignity. (Not that I agree with his killing. Sometimes the world needs a Ceasar. Democracy is all good and well, but it doesn't always work as fast as it needs to, and survival is more important than rights and laws.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germanicus Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 mmm....I can't admire the guy, Brutus that is. From what I have read he was quite a tax farmer of the vicious kind....and he betrayed and killed Caesar, and he had no notion of what do do after that which smacks of a lack of a severe underestimation of the Roman mindset at the time. Silly to hate historical figures though, can't change anything they did, and can't really "know" whether those that we look up to were all we think they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.Clodius Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 mmm....I can't admire the guy, Brutus that is. From what I have read he was quite a tax farmer of the vicious kind.... Exactly. If this is what it meant to have Nobilitas, they can stick it where the sun don't shine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus_Aurelius Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 Brutus was indeed a great warrior,but such a foolish politician,just the kind of man people like Cicero and Cato would easily use in their own purposes.He wasn't the only one to kill Caesar however.In my opinion it is Caesar who commited 'suicide'.He may have been a shrewd politician but he was nothing in politics compared to Augustus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germanicus Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Brutus was indeed a great warrior,14299[/snapback] Please provide some evidence for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus_Aurelius Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 He was one of Caesar's favourite officers,and with Cassius(Longinus) he takes control of the eastern part of the empire during the civil war,including Greece.Also the triumviants Anthony and Octavian suffer defeat in a first phase of the battle of Philippi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.Clodius Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 He was one of Caesar's favourite officers,and with Cassius(Longinus) he takes control of the eastern part of the empire during the civil war,including Greece.Also the triumviants Anthony and Octavian suffer defeat in a first phase of the battle of Philippi As far as I know, and I've read extensively of Caesar's life Brutus NEVER served under Caesar. Cassius took control of Syria and Brutus of Greece during the build up to Phillipi where they proceeded to rape the provinces of every valuable they could lay their hands on, typical so called Optimate behaviour in my opinion. The triumvirs did not suffer a defeat during 1st Phillipi, but rather a setback in that they were fought to a stalemate due to inclement weather during the uphill battle that turned into a mudfest. Some of Brutus' troops suceeded in entering Octavian's camp only to find it empty and proceeded to plunder rather than destroy the army they were sent to defeat. If one word could define Brutus' millitary abilities that word would be indescisive. He failed to send reinforcements, or instill the "mission" of the war in his men or the Caesarian army could have lost the war during 1st Phillipi when his troops took Octavian's camp. He needed constant reassurance from Cassius. He reacted, he didn't pro-act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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