Viggen Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Wine conjures up the image of cultured drinkers sipping their way delicately through a full-bodied vintage. But for two history buffs with a passion for the tipple, northern Italy has the barbarians to thank for its long wine-making tradition. Luca Sormani, from Como, and Fulvio Pescarolo, from the tiny town of Robbio near Milan, have traced the region's wine culture all the way back to its Celtic roots and have started making it according to ancient methods. Celtic tribes from farther north Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantagathus Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 I don't really know what to say about that... Other than it seems highly more likely that viniculture was introduced to the region by Etruscans who settled the northern frontier. Interesting marketing ploy nonetheless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docoflove1974 Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Couple of knee-jerk thoughts: 1) I wonder if the Roman name for the tribe relates to the grape varietal 'barbera'? 2) I wonder how much the French are going to tout their Celtic blood now? hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantagathus Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 I think the thing that grated me about the article is the gross misrepresentation of the title... Celts may have eventually started growing grapes & making wine in the 5th Century in northern Italy but that does not in any way mean that Italy (as a whole) OWES its legacy to them. The legacy is owed to the Bronze Age via either Canaanite-Phoenicians, Mycaenean Greeks, Pelasgians or the Etruscans. It's really irresponsible journalism. Ok, I'm off my soapbox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursus Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 While I have a certain appreciation for the Celts, the current New Age craze is to attribute everything under the sun to them. If you want to see a "scholar" take the craze to its logical extreme, read Peter Ellis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pertinax Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Not the first wave of Celto -mania, the Victorians had a "new age" thing for the celtic fringe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Sicanus Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 This is really junk news. Wine came from the South of Italy introduced by the Sicilians and Greeks. Even Beer is from the Middle East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eunapius Titus Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Lol. Peter Ellis. *made the mistake of buying one of his books in his younger, foolish days of last winter* I definately see that trend. Nearly every aspect of Western Culture seems to be the fruit of the Celts, these days. I hold that the prior trend of giving credit for everything solely to the Mediterranean states was a bit extreme, but it seems its swung to the other side too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardapthia Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 I wonder if the Roman name for the tribe relates to the grape varietal 'barbera'? nope. The term "barbarian" refers to them basically as the "bearded ones." The term came about when the Romans started considering being clean-shaven, or as they called it, barbered, as civilized. Everyone who wasn't barbered was termed as a barbarian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantagathus Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 I wonder if the Roman name for the tribe relates to the grape varietal 'barbera'? nope. The term "barbarian" refers to them basically as the "bearded ones." The term came about when the Romans started considering being clean-shaven, or as they called it, barbered, as civilized. Everyone who wasn't barbered was termed as a barbarian. That's a new one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primus Pilus Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 I wonder if the Roman name for the tribe relates to the grape varietal 'barbera'? nope. The term "barbarian" refers to them basically as the "bearded ones." The term came about when the Romans started considering being clean-shaven, or as they called it, barbered, as civilized. Everyone who wasn't barbered was termed as a barbarian. That's a new one One of several theories... I've heard that one before as well. I also read one that was a take on the Greek origin of Barbaros about the word being a simple replication of the sound that sheep make.... Baaaaa Baaaaa. Heh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantagathus Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 One of several theories... I've heard that one before as well. Should it perhaps be mentioned that the Latin word for barber is tonsor and the Greek is koureus or even xur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dalby Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 One of several theories... I've heard that one before as well. Should it perhaps be mentioned that the Latin word for barber is tonsor and the Greek is koureus or even xur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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