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I must say, Pertinax, you bring some unique specialties to this forum.

 

And as someone who sees sick relatives take expensive drugs until they rattle, I have a growing appreciation for "natural healing."

 

Thank you again. I would like to comment further when I have composed my thoughts-I have some observations about medication, emotional stress and combat fatigue that will take a little while to compose.

 

and I would add that "natural healing" is only what you would do if you were obliged to live by your wits amidst nature.

 

(also do any forum members know of a book called "sacred plant wisdom" its a native american work unavailable here?)

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Wilhelmina Jashemski's "Pompeian Herbal" arrived early today so Galen got put to one side for a while ,its(the herbal) given me a lot of useful links from ancient to modern usage, its a reference manual style work and probably too specialised for general use ( seems to be a theme for my reading matter).I can now take a step back and look again at Pliny and Dioscorides with a clearer perception.

 

I see that the Jashemski also collaborated on th "Natural History of Pompeii" , a seriously expensive work which though I covet, I do not feel able to spend 105 pounds sterling on-do any members possess this worthy though obscenely expensive volume?

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Fine Job Pertinax,

 

May Asclepius forever take care of you my friend!

 

A most gratifying compliment.

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As usual ive become involved in two books at the same time ( well three actually) , The Pompeiian Herbal, Galen and Pliny the Elder. this isnt helping me to review Galen too well but I just wished to say if you havn't looked at Pliny for a while, take him up again his style is so easy and he speaks directly to us today. If you know Pliny you will have recognised the discursion into bear-grease on my blog.

 

I was just thinking aabout Panoramix the Druid from Asterix (or Getafix as He was known to the Britons)...alliterates q well with Pertinax id say. :D

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Ok at last the "Empire" review is done.So for the revival of my neglected medical thread I must move to Galen at long last, we will review a commentary on the maestros work quite soon.

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May I request this thread be moved to the humanities folder please?

 

[Done--PP :lol:]

 

thank you. This sits in a better spot now and I can tie in this as the "front end" for books and general remarks, the blog for detailed exposition and thence the gallery for illustration.

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http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roma...elsus/home.html

 

A very useful link to a translation of the work of Celsus-of whom so little is known, it may be that he transcribed/translated a much earlier Greek work, it is not even known if he was a working physician.

The work is a useful summary of the Ancient Schools and the competing dogmas (dogmatic, methodic and empiric).

 

and here is a nice quote:

[Legamen ad versionem Latinam] "To treat pimples and spots and freckles is almost a waste of time, yet women cannot be torn away from caring from their looks".

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This is on a topic we were discussing, but I can't find it. With the compliments of Sander van Dorst take a peek:

Medicinaantiqua

 

Oh excellent, any additions to the bibilography and toxicology are welcome. :notworthy:

 

AAh Perseus links...but a sub forum I hadnt seen.

 

The details as regards Rue are interesting , I have posted previously but, I think this is a key Roman abortifactant.OK people willl be squeamish about this but the various practical methods of population control are deeply significant demographic indicators.

 

http://www.unrv.com/forum/index.php?act=mo...=si&img=336

 

here is my original gallery post and discussion.

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I have been looking at the fixing of plant medicines in alcohol .I have some initial thoughts regarding possible menstruum .

Firstly fixing fresh herbs with water gives a limited shelf life, very limited in fact , one would suggest dispensation within a couple of weeks of mixing.

Alcoholic tinctures allow storage and transport , and indeed they mature in the manner of wine. We know the Romans used wine as a medium for various medications, horehound as a cough syrup being a well known example.A year old tincture is likely to be more potent than a new one.So amphorae of such a mix (as found in midland Britain ) solve problems of both distribution in bulk and maintenance of quality.

Now, wines such as medeira and sherry can be used as a makeshift modern bases, but a low alcohol content is not appropriate for dense materials, though some herbs respond to most wine -yarrow is a good example

http://www.unrv.com/forum/index.php?act=mo...=si&img=217 of one such "sympathetic" herb.

Some medicinal gums , myrrh is a good example, need a very high percentage of alcohol (90%) to be effective.

trickier mixes

I think what I shall now do is make a blog to give a ( fairly) harmless "roman style medicine" which wil be acessible for all to experiment with at home, perhaps a mild digestive aid using rosemary and lavender . The experiment is to show the stability of such a mix to people having a ready supply of reasonable quality wine (or just acetum).

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My Lord Melchette:

 

How do we know that this is not some cunning plan to knock us all off? :angry:

 

Capt. Blackadder, Ret.

:ph34r:

a cunning and subtle plan?

 

If it says" putte ye firstte part one quartte of Henbanne , withhe a greatte admixturre off the freshhe rooote of Arum andde the fistte growthhe of ye Iris Flowere " then you are all done for.

On the other hand you wouldnt know much about it.

 

Edit: im working up a "wound medication" blog post as an example of what might have been done for general weapon wounds , then ill give an example of something akin to a beneficial "flavouring" for modern use, just in case anyone tries to bump off their Grandmother.

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Your Grace:

 

"...then you are all done for." :( So you admit to your cunning and subtle plan! :angry:

 

I am going to wear garlic, wolfbane and a Cross around my neck from now on to foil your plans. :ph34r:

 

What's good to kill off warts? Something I can get my hands on.

 

Mee

:ph34r:

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