Leading Statesman Of The Roman Republic

[P.Clodius]

23BC he get Imperium Maius, Imperium meaning the right to rule and Maius meaning greater than. In other words, he outranks EVERY other consul, ex-consul, proconsul, praetor, and propraetor. An accumilation of legal powers that was the final nail in the coffin of the republic.

 

Sure, I don't doubt the importance of 23 as a major event. It's just that by this point there is no divided government in any real sense. If bills can't be proposed in the senate and voted by the people with the possibility of tribunician veto, the state isn't the old republic.

I agree, but I would take this event as the final end. It would be interesting to determine the last exercise of a veto by a tribune though. We don't hear much about tribunes after Antonius and Curio fled the city, or the two Caesar had arrested prior/after the Lupercalia.

[Pompieus]

You've set yourself quite a task, one that's filled whole encyclopedias!

 

If you really want additional suggestions I might respectfully mention for the earlier period:

 

M Fabius Ambustus - Cos 360 358 354 Dict 351 321 Triumph 354 Princeps Senatus

Q Fabius Maximus Gurges - Cos 292 276 265 Triumph 291 Princeps Senatus

M Popilius Laenas - Cos 359 356 350 348 Triumph 350

L Papirius Cursor - Cos 326 320 319 315 313 Dict 325 324 309 Triumph 324 319 309

 

The other possibilities are endless.

 

Do you want to include all the guys who were "princeps senatus"? ( L Cornelius Lentullus (cos 239) L Valerius Flaccus (195) M Aemilius Lepidus (187 175) Ap Claudius Pulcher (185) L Valerius Flaccus (100))

 

What about Africanus' colleague and pontifex maximus P Licinius Crassus Dives (cos 205) ? or Q Mucius Scaevola the jurist (cos 95)?

 

Ti Claudius Nero and M Livius Salinator surely belong as victors at the Metaurus, but what about Ti Sempronius Gracchus (cos 215 213) or M Fulvius Nobilior (189) conqueror of Achaea?

[M. Porcius Cato]

M Fabius Ambustus - Cos 360 358 354 Dict 351 321 Triumph 354 Princeps Senatus

Q Fabius Maximus Gurges - Cos 292 276 265 Triumph 291 Princeps Senatus

M Popilius Laenas - Cos 359 356 350 348 Triumph 350

L Papirius Cursor - Cos 326 320 319 315 313 Dict 325 324 309 Triumph 324 319 309

All duly noted; thank you.

 

Do you want to include all the guys who were "princeps senatus"? ( L Cornelius Lentullus (cos 239) L Valerius Flaccus (195) M Aemilius Lepidus (187 175) Ap Claudius Pulcher (185) L Valerius Flaccus (100))

Were these all the guys who were princeps senatus? Is there a list I need to see?

 

Thanks for the additions--these are great!

[Pompieus]

I have a list of sorts that I compiled from various sources, mostly starting with Friederich Munzer's "Roman Aristocratic Parties and Families" and Broughton's "Magistrates of the Roman Republic" (when I could get hold of a copy). German scholars like Mommsen, Gelzer, Munzer and Meyer in the 1860's - 1930's apparently created the study of this stuff (prosopography(!)) later taken up by the Brits like Broughton, Syme et al. The list may not be complete and its accuracy is certainly open to challenge. (All dates are BCE)

 

M Fabius Ambustus (cos 360 et al)

Q Fabius Rullianus (cos 310 et al)

Q Fabius Maximus Gurges (cos 292 et al)

L Cornelius Lentulus Caudinus (cos 237 cens 236) - Apptd ca 220 (?)

Q Fabius Maximus Verruccosus (cos 213 et al, cens 230) - Apptd 209

P Cornelius Scipio Africanus (cos 205 194 cens 199) - Apptd 199 (?)

L Valerius Flaccus (cos 195 cens 184) - Apptd 184

M Aemilius Lepidus (cos 187 cens 179) - Apptd 179

P Cornelius Scipio Nasica Corculum (cos 162 155 cens 159) - Apptd 147

Ap Claudius Pulcher (cos 185 cens 136) - Apptd 136

M Aemilius Scaurus (cos 115 cens 109) - Appd 109 (?)

L Valerius Flaccus (cos 100 cens 97) - Apptd 86 (?)

 

The censors traditionally appointed the senior ex-censor of one of the five "senior clans" (Fabii, Aemilii, Cornelii, Valerii, Claudii) as princeps senatus. There is little reliable data prior to 366BC and no censors completed the "lustrum between 65 and 28 BC. Undoubtedly the "divi filis" was appointed in 28.

 

If you are REALLY interested I have a list of the "pontifex maximi" too.

[Primus Pilus]

If you are REALLY interested I have a list of the "pontifex maximi" too.

 

I've compiled a partial list here, but would be glad to have updates.

[Pompieus]

I have the same names for the pontifices (pontifexes? sadly I have no latin) (Do you need praenomens?)

 

Somewhere I've seen L Cornelius Lentulus Lupus (cos 156 cens 147) and P Cornelius Lentulus (cos 162 added to the princeps senatus list after Ap Claudius Pulcher. Someone has to fill the gap here as Appius died in 131 or 130 and Marcus Aemilius Scaurus wasn't appointed until 109 or 108, but I hesitated to list them as I had no reference.