Quintus 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2006 (edited) Thanks to one and all! I agree with you Octavius about the Greek curse stuff...mabey in a year or two. My poor english had me miss a "r" in the thread title and I was ready for the call.Still, since I'm here, can you tell me who is turmenting youngsters with ancient greek? And a reason why will help me. I'm taking Greek during my lunch period, so it's really me tormenting myself, but as much as I complain about it there is a strange glory in being able to say something no one else in the school will understand under one's breath from time to time. For starters could any one tell me the difference between actual and natural result--I couldn't find the answer on any web-sites and text book definitions are harder to translate into regular english than the Greek itself! P.S. I'm sure your not a geek Kosmo, if that's what you meant. Edited December 26, 2006 by Quintus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLavius Valerius Constantinus 1 Report post Posted December 26, 2006 Phish, everyone knows that a commonly used curse phrase in Greek is: βαλλεις κορακας Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaius Octavius 1 Report post Posted December 26, 2006 (edited) Phish, everyone knows that a commonly used curse phrase in Greek is: Edited December 26, 2006 by Gaius Octavius Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pertinax 3 Report post Posted December 26, 2006 this is excellent, I own it: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Learn-Ancient-Gree...TF8&s=books but I suspect AD will say , learn modern Greek its the same! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLavius Valerius Constantinus 1 Report post Posted December 27, 2006 (edited) FOR SHAME! And on Christmas! Corrupting the morals of a minor! Assuming that you are not putting us on - I'll find out! My lictors may have to deal with you. Anyway mine starts with the letter ' '. You know what, "corrupting the youth[morals of a minor]" makes me sound like Socrates! this is excellent, I own it:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Learn-Ancient-Gree...TF8&s=books but I suspect AD will say , learn modern Greek its the same! Learn Modern Greek! That may hold some truth, but the words used in Ancient/Attic Greek means/is completely different from the modern ones. Edited December 27, 2006 by FLavius Valerius Constantinus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
docoflove1974 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2006 Learn Modern Greek! That may hold some truth, but the words used in Ancient/Attic Greek means/is completely different from the modern ones. I was just about to say this...there is quite the difference, and I believe that AD and others have stated this elsewhere on this board, and in more detail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quintus 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2006 Thanks for protecting me from the corruption of FVC, Octavius. Learn Modern Greek! That may hold some truth, but the words used in Ancient/Attic Greek means/is completely different from the modern ones. Although I want to learn modern Greek eventually, I'm already confused enough learning ancient greek. If anyone knows anything about the result clauses question above, please tell me! It's a real obstacle and the only companion I have is a 50 year old greek text book entitled a new introduction to greek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLavius Valerius Constantinus 1 Report post Posted December 27, 2006 Thanks for protecting me from the corruption of FVC, Octavius. Learn Modern Greek! That may hold some truth, but the words used in Ancient/Attic Greek means/is completely different from the modern ones. Although I want to learn modern Greek eventually, I'm already confused enough learning ancient greek. If anyone knows anything about the result clauses question above, please tell me! It's a real obstacle and the only companion I have is a 50 year old greek text book entitled a new introduction to greek The only useful thing I can say is that you should try comparing it with the Latin construction to help a little, although I'm pretty sure Attic Greek has different variations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quintus 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2006 I couldn't find any Latin constructions like this, the Romans seemed to clump it all together into purpose clauses. Mabey natural result is like a result clause in Latin and actual result is like the regular purpose clause, but that's just a theory I have. If anyone has anything to say about memorizing the dative plural of the third declension I could use that too, I'm utterly and completely confused now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaius Octavius 1 Report post Posted December 27, 2006 (edited) Quintus, here is your Saturnalia present: http://www.vroma.org/~abarker/tschapseventeen.html "mabey" ? ?Que? MAYBE Mabey you should do a little work on yer inglishe spelling first! If you are not careful, you mabey teletransported to the Dark Side of the Moon where you kin keep & :mummy: company! Where is My Lord of the Greeks :notworthy: , Don Giovanni, in all this? Edited December 27, 2006 by Gaius Octavius Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quintus 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2006 (edited) Sorry about that , in my defense it was a little late when I wrote that and I was only half conscious, but even when I am awake, I'm a pretty terrible speller. Tell me if you catch anything else, it helps me. By the way, thanks for the Saturnalia present, my understanding of the whole result clause thing is still a bit foggy, but it's getting better. Edited December 27, 2006 by Quintus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaius Octavius 1 Report post Posted December 27, 2006 Q: Stop; think; take a couple of pills; take a nap and then go back at it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quintus 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2006 Thanks for the advise! (I hate school with a sleepy passion) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites