Moonlapse Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 "The organisation of society in such a manner that any individual, man or woman, finds at birth equal means for the development of their respective faculties and the utilisation of their labour. The organisation of society in such a manner that the exploitation by one person of the labour of his neighbour would be impossible, and where everyone will be allowed to enjoy the social wealth only to the extent of their contribution to the production of that wealth." -August Bebel The organisation of society in such a manner that any individual, man or woman, finds at birth equal means for the development of their respective faculties and the utilisation of their labour. Isn't this QUITE possible in capitalism? Hasn't Bill Gates done just this to it's full extent? Yet he is widely resented. The organisation of society in such a manner that the exploitation by one person of the labour of his neighbour would be impossible, No such thing, yet in a capitalist society, people are free to exercise free will and choose what they do for a living and who they work for. and where everyone will be allowed to enjoy the social wealth only to the extent of their contribution to the production of that wealth. Laissez faire capitalism at its best... you decide the extent of your contribution to the production and enjoy its associated wealth, not a government. Ironic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeke Posted August 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 man were still talking about this I can't belive that it would become such a heated debate after I posted it. Zeke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlapse Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Hehehe, heated? Not yet... I'm still waiting for that.... Don't worry about it Zeke, eveyone on this board so far is very good at staying on the issues instead of flaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primus Pilus Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Yeah, not heated, just quality discussion. We apparantly need a more controversial topic to spark some intense arguments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vexator Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 I think the one thing I agree with Communism (at least the type that Russia had) was Religion is poison. You want world peace, ban all organized religion. "I can't believe people actually believe in angels. Little fat people with wings that actually interact with our lives. What ever happened to Goblins? You don't hear much about them anymore." --George Carlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iulius Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 yea... nota big fan "o" da communists but i wthink it would be intresting if some one had rome;s old republican government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FBetts Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Stumbled onto this topic by accdient, and as a commie a thought ide throw in my 2 cents as i was passing by. Why do people continue to beleeve those lieing imposters. They say there "communists" and everyone says "yep, there commies", without any real proof. Christian madmen, like the ones who ruled over Europe threw most the middle ages, there not christians, because despite what they said, they did not, and never did act in a chritian manner. Its accepted that they where despots using an idiology to just keep the people happy without having to actuly put it into action. It makes my blood boil, i want to set up a "victims of christianity" site. of course, ide be lauthed at and told that they wernt realy christian governments. But thats because people widly understand what christianity is and what it isnt. Someone claims there country is communist, even if there actions dont and never did follow communist principals, people fall over themselves to beleeve in it. Lennin even said he was instating state capatelism, not socialism, and people STILL think the USSR was a communist experiment: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primus Pilus Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Indeed, communism has never worked in its true idealistic form and likely never will. (At least not in the current socio-political environment). I think for the most part, people who have commented on this thread agree that Communist governments that have existed, don't represent a true communist ideal. I'm not quite sure why you make the 'generalization' attack on Christianity when at the same time you lament the same type of attacks toward communism though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeke Posted February 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Socalism might work. Also in Venice when the Guilds owned most of the propery it was like the workers accully owned everything. Kinda. I like the idea of Guilds before the industrial revolution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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