sylla 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2009 that would have been too easy, since this is the best known dig of Van Effenterre But you're on the right island. We are indeed in Crete and the war we are speaking of is the war between cretan cities organized in two leagues under the patronage of Rhodes and Egypt, a war which forced the mediation of the romans led by Q. Fabius Maximus, probably in 113/112 BC. Dyme. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryaxis Hecatee 16 Report post Posted June 23, 2009 Not Dyme. In fact I know of no Dyme in Crete... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sylla 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Not Dyme. In fact I know of no Dyme in Crete... Sorry. Lato? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryaxis Hecatee 16 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Yes indeed it is Lato, the first site of the city whose institutions later went to Lato Pros Kamara, today the town of Hagios Nikolaos. Lato was in alliance with Cnossos and Itanos, among others, against cities like Hierapitna and Olous. A first war against the pro-rodhians ended in a victory celebrated in the stelae of Sta Lenika studied by Van Effenterre during the 1940's. His view of things was that after this first war Lato won lands on Olous. Then a few years later a new war started, officially due to a conflict on the cargo of a (pirated ? grounded ?) ship. The ship was probably a simple excuse for what was in fact a question of access to Lato's good port. It looks like the war did not go very well for Lato, who called upon international powers to settle things. Cnossos was the first arbiter and gave all the lands back to Lato. Then a new settlement, confirming Cnossos judgement, was arbitred in Delphi. Then when, in 113/112, a roman commission came to pacify Crete they confirmed the two previous arbitrages. Lato continued as a peacefull town in the roman period, not suffering from the roman war of conquest. So you got the hand Sylla ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sylla 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2009 Yes indeed it is Lato, the first site of the city whose institutions later went to Lato Pros Kamara, today the town of Hagios Nikolaos. Lato was in alliance with Cnossos and Itanos, among others, against cities like Hierapitna and Olous. A first war against the pro-rodhians ended in a victory celebrated in the stelae of Sta Lenika studied by Van Effenterre during the 1940's. His view of things was that after this first war Lato won lands on Olous. Then a few years later a new war started, officially due to a conflict on the cargo of a (pirated ? grounded ?) ship. The ship was probably a simple excuse for what was in fact a question of access to Lato's good port. It looks like the war did not go very well for Lato, who called upon international powers to settle things. Cnossos was the first arbiter and gave all the lands back to Lato. Then a new settlement, confirming Cnossos judgement, was arbitred in Delphi. Then when, in 113/112, a roman commission came to pacify Crete they confirmed the two previous arbitrages. Lato continued as a peacefull town in the roman period, not suffering from the roman war of conquest. So you got the hand Sylla ! I wasn't aware that the Roman arbitrages were required so late; when you mentioned the Livy's reference, were you talking about a Book or a Periocha? I wasn't able to find it. Thanks, but I am not currently able to post images; so if any other UNRV member would be kind enough to take the hand, I will be forever in debt. BTW, I'm not sure if any specific rule applies for the this case, so please ask Maladict or any other veteran member. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryaxis Hecatee 16 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 it looks a bit like Velia... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sylla 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 Nope Is this Italy (in the Classical sense)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Klingan 2 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 Should I really give you hints already? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sylla 0 Report post Posted June 29, 2009 Should I really give you hints already? Herculaneum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Klingan 2 Report post Posted June 29, 2009 Herculaneum. Oh no It is indeed in Italy though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maladict 0 Report post Posted August 14, 2009 Should I really give you hints already? Yes, you should. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Klingan 2 Report post Posted August 14, 2009 The city was conquered rather early by the Romans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Centurion-Macro 3 Report post Posted August 14, 2009 Is it Tarentium? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites