ASCLEPIADES Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 (edited) Salve, Amici. A Pompeian electoral graffiti: "Cn(aeus) Helvius Sabinus AED(ile) D(ignum) R(ei) P(ublicae) ( Edited June 16, 2008 by ASCLEPIADES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faustus Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 (edited) Some interesting developments of with Obama of late: 1. He created for himself a pseudo presidential <SEAL> very much like the actual presidential seal and positioned it on his podium when speaking 2. He is going to make a trip to Iraq soon, and while passing through Europe has stated a desire to make a speech at the Brandenburg Gate. Previously two past presidents have made speeches there. John F. Kennedy (The "I am a Berliner" speech, early in the cold war) and Ronald Reagan ("Mr Gorbachev, bring down this wall" speech, at the height of the cold war) (He seems to be taking on the mantle of the presidency so that it is an accepted fact, before the fact.) 3. He will also likely exploit the speech in Berlin as an affirmation of his popularity abroad, the audacity of hope indeed.... I personally have no objection; I Edited July 12, 2008 by Faustus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephele Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Some interesting developments of with Obama of late... I personally have no objection; I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faustus Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Some interesting developments of with Obama of late:1. He created for himself a pseudo presidential SEAL..... 2. He is going to make a trip to Iraq soon, and while passing through Europe has stated a desire to make a speech at the Brandenburg Gate. Previously two past presidents have made speeches there.... (He seems to be taking on the mantle of the presidency so that it is an accepted fact, before the fact.) On his upcoming trip to Iraq, the Middle East, and Europe - three count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosmo Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 I think Obama can count on much more sympathies abroad then any Republican. In places like France and Egypt there are many signs of Obamania and, with proper coverage, this can be turned in a political advantage at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASCLEPIADES Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 I think Obama can count on much more sympathies abroad then any Republican. In places like France and Egypt there are many signs of Obamania and, with proper coverage, this can be turned in a political advantage at home. Honestly, I can't see how could such thing ever happen; Frenchmen and Egyptians are not going to vote on this one. America's best selection ought not to be popular among the rest of the world. And that would be true for most if not all countries' elections, for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDickey Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 And Obama sold out. Obama didn't sell out. He's finally showing his true colors. Despite popular opinion, and the thread of his official narrator, he is an old-fashioned politician playing old-fashioned politics. He's running as the Anti-Bush, anti-Republican, and that is it. His official narrative sells the idea that he's different and unique, but he's not. Every thing he has done so far is by-the-book. This obsessive cult of personality surrounding him worries me. No one should be given serious consideration for the highest elected office in this country based soley on popularity. Who is the man? What does he believe? What does he stand for? Do you know? Does anyone know? Does he know? I have a question I ask Obama followers, and it's one that hasn't elicited a response: Can you say one positive thing and Barack Obama, as a politician, that in no way, shape, or form references George Bush or the Republicans? Ask someone that. They'll struggle to give you a response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASCLEPIADES Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 I'm basically optimist; one of the few analogies that I can found between the United States and the Imperial Rome is that, most often than not, both have had extremely efficient political and administrative systems, so even mediocre rulers would have a hard time interfering with their right course. Then, the national outcome is not so dependent on the head status as it is in other countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faustus Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 This obsessive cult of personality surrounding him worries me. No one should be given serious consideration for the highest elected office in this country based soley on popularity. Who is the man? What does he believe? What does he stand for? Do you know? Does anyone know? Does he know? I have a question I ask Obama followers, and it's one that hasn't elicited a response: Can you say one positive thing and Barack Obama, as a politician, that in no way, shape, or form references George Bush or the Republicans? "Yea, Verily", and it came to pass: your answer lies within this link..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephele Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 I have only an anagram for comment... Barack Hussein Obama = "O.K., u can b Arab Messiah." -- Nephele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nina Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) Obama didn't sell out. He's finally showing his true colors. Despite popular opinion, and the thread of his official narrator, he is an old-fashioned politician playing old-fashioned politics. He's running as the Anti-Bush, anti-Republican, and that is it. His official narrative sells the idea that he's different and unique, but he's not. Every thing he has done so far is by-the-book. [...] As much as I would have hated to admit it when I was caught up in the Obama hype, everything you said is entirely true. I only wish I had realized it sooner. Being inexperienced as a voter and not nearly as up to date on the candidates as I should have been (I blame this partly on mounds of schoolwork and partly on my own decision to be lazy and relax instead of looking this stuff up when opportunities arose), I ended up turning to CNN in an attempt to catch up on the events and wound up falling for everything they said about Obama. I really did believe that he was as honest and unique as he said he was and that he would keep to his promises of "change." Of course, when Hillary was out of the picture for good and he started to show his true colors, I was disillusioned, to say the least. He really is just another old-fashioned politician, and looking back on it now I can't believe I fell for everything the media told me so easily. It's embarrassing, really...and also sort of scary to think about how much power the media has in influencing the minds of the public. I can't speak for everyone of course, but most of the voters I know (myself included) made their decision in the primaries based on what they heard in the media. I have no idea what I'm going to do for the presidential election at the moment... McCain is definitely not an option for me (no offense to McCain supporters), but I'm pretty disappointed in Obama right now as well. Edited July 28, 2008 by nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Neil Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 I have no idea what I'm going to do for the presidential election at the moment...McCain is definitely not an option for me (no offense to McCain supporters), but I'm pretty disappointed in Obama right now as well. I would have thought that after so many years of republicanism, the US electorate would vote for a pig in a suit as long as it was democrat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faustus Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 I would have thought that after so many years of republicanism, the US electorate would vote for a pig in a suit as long as it was democrat. Hahahahaha! now that's funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASCLEPIADES Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 I have no idea what I'm going to do for the presidential election at the moment...McCain is definitely not an option for me (no offense to McCain supporters), but I'm pretty disappointed in Obama right now as well. I would have thought that after so many years of republicanism, the US electorate would vote for a pig in a suit as long as it was democrat. Salve, NN What do you have against pigs? You know, Animal farm was just Orwellian fiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nina Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 I have no idea what I'm going to do for the presidential election at the moment...McCain is definitely not an option for me (no offense to McCain supporters), but I'm pretty disappointed in Obama right now as well. I would have thought that after so many years of republicanism, the US electorate would vote for a pig in a suit as long as it was democrat. A pig probably could do a better job than Bush... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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