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1. I suppose that if Caligula would have lived another 43 years he would elect either his son or grandson to be his heir and if he wouldn't have any probably would be another male of his close family.
2. They would continue to have a successfully senatorial career but wouldn't achieve supreme power.
3. I wouldn't say that their would be any radical changes.
4. ???
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I found this reference from the 4th century to the fact that Julius Caesar had offered Brutus to serve as his questor at Gaul in 53 BC.
"82.1 Marcus Brutus, auunculi Catonis imitator, Athenis philosophiam, Rhodi eloquentiam didicit. 2 Cytheridem mimam cum Antonio et Gallo amauit. 3 Quaestor in Galliam proficisci noluit, quod is bonis omnibus displicebat. 4 Cum Appio socero in Cilicia fuit, et cum ille repetundarum accusaretur, ipse ne uerbo quidem infamatus est. 5 Ciuili bello a Catone ex Cilicia retractus Pompeium secutus est, quo uicto ueniam a Caesare accepit et proconsul Galliam rexit; tamen cum aliis coniuratis in curia Caesarem occidit. 6 Et ob inuidiam ueteranorum in Macedoniam missus, ab Augusto in campis Philippiis uictus Stratoni ceruicem praebuit." (Aurelius Victor,De viris illustribus urbis Romae)
Now to me it's seem strange since by this date Brutus was identified with the Optimates and I found no mention of this in another source.
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Here it is:
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To my mind, this would seem to indicate that Octavius had either re-entered the cursus honorum or had attempted to re-enter it
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I think that the stop of the expansion wars was in great deal due to the change of the political system. In the republic a successful war was the surest way to achieve political power and office and to accumulate wealth. this all change under the imperial system, the princeps was the only source of political power and he was the one which appointed magistrates, furthermore any war was conducted under his auspecies regardless of who was actually the commander in the field.
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The legal distinction between natural born and adopted children is not the isseu here . The fact is that Octavius was adopted by Caesar (by will) and was not a Caesar by himself . The same is true for all the Julio-Claudians . These are the facts regardless judsicial distinctions . Yes, they were Julii as Septimius Severus was a Nerva !
I think it's very much an issue since the Roman themselves didn't make any distinction, however if you talking about blood you forgetting that Augustus was the great nephew of Caesar, so he had in him Caesarian blood.
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So, the last "pure" Iulii (by the male line) were Caesar himself and his daugther . The Julio-Claudians were descendants of (by the male line) Gaius Octavius and Tiberius Claudius Nero . No more "pure" Iulii or "Caesars" .
By the female line and by direct adoption the Caesars survived until c. 70 CE. All other Iulii were without any family connectios with Caesar descendants, although you can find, in the net, many people who think that they have it....
I'm not aware that the Romans made a legal distinction between natural born and adopted children, Augustus and Tiberius were as much a legitimate Julii as Julius Caesar. the last male member was Gaius (Caligula) and the last male descendant of Augustus was Nero (however he was not of the Julii but of the Claudii).
The last female Julii was Agrippina Minor and the last descendant of Augustus was Junia Calvina who died in 79 (Suetonius, Vespasian, 23.4)
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According to Adrian Goldsworthy (The Complete Roman Army, pp. 133) while it's possible that the legionaries carried two pila on a campaign to the battle itself they carry only one pilum.
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The whole motion was illegal, the people assemblies had no power to remove a magistrate that they elected. I think that Octavius understand that any veto would disregard by the assembly. Plutarchus hint this in the speech of Gracchus:
"A tribune, he said, was sacred and inviolable, because he was consecrated to the people and was a champion of the people. "If, then," said Tiberius, "he should change about, wrong the people, maim its power, and rob it of the privilege of voting, he has by his own acts deprived himself of his honourable office by not fulfilling the conditions on which he received it; 3 for otherwise there would be no interference with a tribune even though he should try to demolish the Capitol or set fire to the naval arsenal. If a tribune does these things, he is a bad tribune; but if he annuls the power of the people, he is no tribune at all." (Life of Tiberius Gracchus, 15.2)
As you could see by Gracchus view Octavius has lost the tribunical authority and protection by vetoing his agrarian law.
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the use of any language is beyond any kind of control.
Not really, the Academy sets regulations that are enforced by countless institutions starting with mass media that is highly influential, schools, bureaucracy etc
I don't see how an language academy could enforce her decisions on the mass media (at least in free societies). In Israel we also have an academy ("Academy of the Hebrew Language") and it's more complex than the way that you describe, some time it's translation of foreign words are accepted by the mass public, sometime their not and the foreign words are the one which are in wide use and sometime the mass media translate a word in a diffrent way than the academy and eventually the academy "accept" it as a valid word.
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That's pretty ridicules, by dumbing down the language (which probably show what those council men people thinks of their voters intelligence) you preventing people from a chance to enrich their vocabulary which only hurt they later in life if they ever want to read an academic article or good fine literature.
As a native speaker of Hebrew, a language that has no roots in Latin, I mostly didn't know what those Latin words meant but it's was pretty easy to check them in the English dictionary.
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A great Journal about Papyrology and Epigraphy, has all the issues from the years 1988-2000 avaliable for free download.
http://www.uni-koeln.de/phil-fak/ifa/zpe/d...oads/index.html
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Happy Birthday!
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Another interesting phenomenon in the late empire is hybrid names, for example the name of Constantine I nephew was Hannibalianus which is a Semit-Punician theophoric name (Hannibal) merged with the Latin suffix "ianus".
I suppose it's another evidence to the growing influence of the eastern provinces culture in the late empire.
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Broughton also agreed that Cato Minor father died before 91 BC.
The only Cato mention in 89 BC is Lucius Porcius Cato who was a Consul and died during a failed attack against the Marsi.
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The coin of Agrippa was actually minted after 12 BC intent to commemorate his after his death.
Do you have a citation for that? If so, I'll change it.
Meyer Reinhold, Marcus Agrippa A Biography, The W. F. Humphrey Press: Geneva, New York 1933, pp. 131-132
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Where is he written about? There has to be somewhere something written using that name and telling how he was a general who became a gladiator. Or did Scott just take the name and make up a story?
Macrinus wasn't a Gladiator, he was only the inspiration to the movie character.
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OK - then is there any feasible reasons why a legionary would travel to Rome while still in the army?
He could be on an approved vacation from the army.
But really it's just a movie (and a crappy one in my opinion) it's pointless to try to make sense of it's historically.
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He could defect and of course if he will be captured he will be executed. another way to get an early release is if the soldier was wounded so bad in battle that he couldn't serve any more.
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I manage to find a transcript of his tomb inscription:
[M (arco) NONI]O M(arci) FIL(io) FABI[A MAC]RINO [...]
COMITI LEG IMP ANTONINI AVG EX [...]
CITERIORIS ITEM PANNONIAE SUP[ERIORIS] [...]
PROVINCAE ASIAE QVAESTO[R]
[PA]TRI (? ) OPTIMO ET FLAVI [AE?] [...]
M(arcus) NONIV [...]
http://adrianmurdoch.typepad.com/my_weblog...s-nonius-1.html
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The coin of Agrippa was actually minted after 12 BC intent to commemorate his after his death.
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That's rather surprising. I checked my copy of Broughton's Magistrates and Broughton gives for the year 36 the two Consuls L. Gellius Publicola and M. Cocceius Nerva, and the two Consules Suffecti L. Nonius Asprenas and a Marcius (no praenomen or cognomen given). Broughton cites (for the Consules Suffecti) three different fasti as references.
I'm assuming you referring to page 399 in Broughton's The magistrates of the Roman Republic, if so please note that you listed the consuls of 36 BC while the mysterious M. Porcius Cato was a consul suffectus in 36 AD.
The Roman Sense Of Humor
in Romana Humanitas
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The Talmud preserve a piece of Roman pun joke:
"A certain master came into the house of learning, and said that the man of the nose was being looked for R. Gamaliel understood that he was meant thereby, and hid himself." (Babylonian Talmud, Ta'anit 29)
Now the Roman refer to Gamliel as the "man of the nose" because at the time he was the head of the Jews in the Land of Israel and as such hold the title of Nasi (a term that translated to Greek by the church fathers as Ethnarcos - a leader of ethnic group) which in Latin is the genativus of the word Nasus (Nose) and hence the Romans jokely named the Jewish leader the "man of the nose".