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General Clark

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Neos Dionysos

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The other night, I had the prvilige to hear a speech by General Wesley Clark, and then meet and speak with him. His speech, focusing on the Balkans and part of the overral series of speechs at my school concerning the issue of "Do we really care about human rights?" was an amazing thing. He spoke of the past relevancy, his personal experiences in and out of the military and washington and then went on to answer questions very detailed and thoroughly ranging from his speech, to Iraq, Iran, China and other major matters in US policy today. Hearing him speak, knowing his ideals and aspirations and then hearing his impressive record, I can't help but just remember during 03, how I had hoped he had won the Democratic Candidacy, and perhaps, part of me wishes he would have run independant...

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If the Democrats had run him he'd probably be president.

 

 

But do you think the left-wing of the modern Democractic Party is going to nominate a career military officer? No. Might as well ask Republicans to nominate an Atheist.

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No. Might as well ask Republicans to nominate an Atheist.

 

Well, that party is out of the question for me....

 

Also, I do think General Clark would've made a great canidate. He is one of the few people who has managed to make their military position slightly political and I'm in favor of generals becoming politicians. They know the effect battle has on a nation, and the effects war has on the mind. However the also know what its like to have a life at home.

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If the Democrats had run him he'd probably be president.

 

 

But do you think the left-wing of the modern Democractic Party is going to nominate a career military officer? No. Might as well ask Republicans to nominate an Atheist.

 

 

Same goes for McCain, both candidates are too far from the main area that thier respective parties are. Clark is not liberal enough... and McCain not conservative enough.

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Grant and Eisenhower were both very good generals, but not such great presidents. How do you explain this?

 

And what about Washington, Jackson, and Teddy Roosevelt?

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If the Democrats had run him he'd probably be president.

 

 

But do you think the left-wing of the modern Democractic Party is going to nominate a career military officer? No. Might as well ask Republicans to nominate an Atheist.

 

 

Same goes for McCain, both candidates are too far from the main area that thier respective parties are. Clark is not liberal enough... and McCain not conservative enough.

 

Which is why its gonna be McCain 2008! Heck yeah!

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McCain is just about the ONLY republican I would ever support. He's a reformist politician too. Can't believe he lost out to G.W.!

 

It's not that he lost out... just that he did not have the support of the party over Bush...

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Grant and Eisenhower were both very good generals, but not such great presidents. How do you explain this?

And what about Washington, Jackson, and Teddy Roosevelt?

 

Jackson and Roosevelt were terrible presidents. The first one acted unconstitionally by defying the Supreme Court order to leave the Cherokee alone; he also completely subverted Jeffersonsonian ideals with his hick populism. T. Roosevelt was a war-monger and had the economic acumen of a turnip.

 

George Washington was almost a saint, so I'll say nothing against him except that his presidency was most remarkable for its precedents rather than for its policies.

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Grant and Eisenhower were both very good generals, but not such great presidents. How do you explain this?

And what about Washington, Jackson, and Teddy Roosevelt?

T. Roosevelt was a war-monger and had the economic acumen of a turnip.

 

 

He was not a bad economist, he was simply a man of his school of thought. He was the first 'Progressive' President.

 

The Progressive movement can best sumed up that large corporations were needed, (as in monopolies etc.), to penetrate foreign markets and therefore promote informal imperialism. The idea being, the US had to have the most effiecent economy in order to win world economic supremacy, which they did. T.R. wanted to use these new economics to the US advantage, but he also knew its evils and wanted a form of "Concentration and Control."

 

T.R. would distinguish from good and bad businesses and so would protect the good ones and punish the bad ones. He sponsored conservation like he did big business, he was, contrary to belief, not a preservationist. The idea was... to protect our resources not for its beauty, but so we could always have a resources of our own, so instead of cutting down all the forests in one swoop and make a lump of cash.. then nothing for a long time... you do it in moderation and plant new trees etc, of course over time his preservations became completely protected. He did was he did to promote effienceny.

 

An addition was the 1906 Meat Inspection Act, which people today say was because of the book 'The Jungle'. That's false. The Act was meant to protect the prosperity of farmers, the idea was you can sell bad meat in Chicago if it is made in Chicago, but not in Europe so the seal of approval would prevent foreign tariffs and allow the US to get a deeper hold into foriegn markets. Sinclair wanted labor reforms and was a socialist, he could careless about people's health from meat, it was mainly a tool to an end.

 

My point is, T.R was not a great president, but he knew what he was doing in order to promote American foriegn imperialism and domination in markets and commerce, which is something we now enjoy and have been enjoying for almost 100 years if not more.

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