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Sorry, PP .... don't know much about that kind of stuff.

Thanks for that. So it would seem that Galba at least thought he was safe from Vespasian. Granted, following Galba's death things went to hell in a handbasket at an even faster rate, but are you aware of any mentions of Vesapasian during Otho or Vitellius' reigns? Were there any messages exchanged, etc? Congratulations or otherwise?

I've been reading "69 AD - The Year of the Four Emperors" by Gwyn Morgan in which he chronicles the event of that fateful year. I'm about 1/3 of the way through and we're up to the point where Otho's and Vitellius' troops are on the verge of coming to blows. The book quotes heavily throughout from the ancient sources, but thus far there has been no reference to either Galba, Otho, or Vitellius making mention of Vespasian. I'm not certain if Morgan has perhaps omitted any such references to add to his chronological storytelling and that he'll get to it eventually when Vespasian makes his bid for power, or if truly none of the 3 took him into account in their various civil war / usurper equations. Can anyone shed any light on this for me? I would think that any good usurper would take stock of any and all rivals out there ... especially those with legions in the field. Were there any attempts to bring Vespasian into the fold or nullify his influence by any of the 3 (prior to Vitellius' defeat of Otho that is)?

I knew you would be glad I'm off my meds again, GO! Here's one from ... this thread.

Wednesday 4/30/08 Julius Caesar (1970) LBN - 4:00 pm (no idea what channel that is) Shakespeare's Mark Antony avenges the Roman ruler's death at the hands of Brutus, Cassius and others. Thursday 5/1/08 Smart Travels Equator Channel - 11:00 pm Next showing: Ancient Greece & Rome Athens, Delphi, Delos, Pompeii, Rome and Provence and a little history of wine and olives. Monday 5/5/08 Passport to Europe With Samantha Brown Travel Channel - 5:30 am Next showing: Rome, Italy The Eternal City, Rome; Roman coffee experience; top attractions; wild night-life. Tuesday 5/6/08 A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum (1966) Encore Love - 5:35 am A con-man slave and his sidekick fake a courtesan's funeral to fool a pimp in ancient Rome. Ancient Almanac History International - 11:00 am Next showing: Ancient Mysteries: The Sunken City The Roman city of Ostia dies a slow, painful death. History's Mysteries History International - 12:00 pm Next showing: Pompeii Lava engulfs the Roman resort town of Pompeii, preserving it in time. Wednesday 5/7/08 Ancient Almanac History International - 11:00 am Next showing: Masada: The Last Fortress More than 900 Jews make a last stand against the Romans in 73 A.D. at the mountain fortress of Masada

Mr. Magorium's Vomitorium Emporium

Cool! Thanks, ML ... I added it to my MY Yahoo! page.

In light of his new line of UNRV handbags that he's coming out with, I understand Ursus is going with "Purses by Ursus" (after he reads this I'm sure I'll be hearing a few "curses by Ursus")

See initial post for complete schedule. Latest additions as follows: Friday 4/25/08 The Robe (1953) Cinemax - 6:30 am The red robe worn by Christ links a Roman tribune, his Christian lover and a Greek slave. Sunday 5/4/08 Timeblazers Discovery Kids - 4:30 am Next showing: Romans Sam and Jen whisk Alex back to Ancient Rome. Rick Steves' Europe HDNET - 7:00 am Next showing: Naples and Pompeii Back-street fish markets; pizza; climbing Mount Vesuvius; the ruins of Pompeii.

Yeah, its definitely got "Troma" written all over it. I also think it sounds like fodder for the boys at MST3K:

If I had a "re-do" ... I'd go with "The Patrician Magician"!

Yes. Same thing. But I think setting up an RSS feed for the articles that are written (or new message board topics) would be very, very cool.

I'm going to guess that was unheard of. The whole point of adopting was to bring in a male whose ancestry had the proper gravitas so as to dignify your own ancestry. (Of course there were instances of it being the other way around where a Plebian would adopt a Patrician so that they could stand for tribune. Eg: Clodius).

Here is Wikipedia's explanation ... click. Basically, it allows somebody to have a summary of the latest articles or msg board topics directly on their homepage (such as My Yahoo!, etc.) For example, here is part of a screen capture of my home page showing an RSS feed's from a football site I go to, ProFootballTalk.com, as well as a local news website: So if you had an UNRV RSS feed, it would show the 5 most recent UNRV articles or maybe the 5 most recent message board topics.

Very interesting, Maty. Thanks. Would the adoptee still have a relationship with his birth family? I would think it would be somewhat awkward since the Patricians would all travel in the same social and career circles.

Also, would an adoptee's birth and adopted ancestry both be taken into account when arranging marriages?

Have you guys ever looked into having RSS news feeds available for your site? I think an RSS feed for new articles and also The Forum would be great.

I see where for the ruling class the ability to trace your roots back to significant historical figures was given much weight. The entire Patrician class seemed to care just about nothing else it seems! But what about if you were one of the many males who were adopted into a Patrician family? Did you still get to claim the same impressive ancestry as your adopted family? Did you get to invoke ancestors from both your birth and adopted families? For example, would the Emperor Tiberius have been able to claim a connection to Aenaeus and Venus as he was adopted into the Julians? Or would "Scipio the younger" be able to invoke Scipio Africanus even though he was adopted into that family? Because he was born into the Aemilii Pauli clan, would he have been able to claim that ancestry as well?

See initial post for complete listings. Latest additions to the schedule .... Wednesday 4/23/08 The Battle for Rome Military Channel 10:00 am Next showing: "Constantine" Constantine takes control of a divided Roman Empire. The Battle for Rome Military Channel 11:00 am Next showing: "Fall of Rome" Former mercenaries, the Visigoths, besiege Rome. Monday 4/28/08 What the Romans Did for Us History International - 9:30 am Next showing: Ahead of Their Time Forms of entertainment during the public holidays in Roman times. Thursday 5/1/08 Smart Travels: Europe With Rudy Maxa HDNET - 6:30 am Next showing: Croatia's Dalmatian Coast Croatian coast of Dalmatia; Roman emperor's palace; tips on boating, food and driving.

I'm really enjoying Rubicon. I'm a little leery of Persian Fire since I won't be familiar with 99% of the names/events discussed, but we'll see ....

Yes.

This one has to be on the short list: Saturday 4/26/08 Curse of the Faceless Man (1958) MGM - 7:25 am A scientist's girlfriend is kidnapped by a stony Etruscan gladiator-slave found near Pompeii. (I am sooooooooo TiVo'ing it though!)

Saturday 4/26/08 Curse of the Faceless Man (1958) MGM - 7:25 am A scientist's girlfriend is kidnapped by a stony Etruscan gladiator-slave found near Pompeii. Rome HBO 2 - 9:00 pm Next showing: The Ram Has Touched the Wall Caesar weighs Pompey's counteroffer; Vorenus must reconsider his career choices; Atia concocts a scheme to come between Caesar and Servilia. Wednesday 4/30/08 Private View Ovation Channel - 5:00 pm Emmanuelle Beart views George Ortiz's collection of Greek and Roman art in his chateau in Switzerland.

See initial post for complete listings Wednesday 4/30/08 Smart Travels: Europe With Rudy Maxa HDNET - 6:30 am Next showing: Out of Rome Emperor Hadrian's villa; wine and lakes of the Alban Hills; ancient seaport of Ostia; olive oil pressing; Rome's ring road. Thursday 5/1/08 Quo Vadis (1951) Turner Classic Movies - 8:00 pm Emperor Nero burns Rome and puts a Roman commander's Christian bride in the arena with a bull.

Thanks, everyone. I appreciate the input.