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  3. The Battle Of Alesia - The Effect The Battle Of Alesia had on the Gaul

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    Thanks for the additional info.

     

    Could anyone please tell me the finer points of the word Gaul itself.

    I mean the correct form of the word when using it in a sentence.

     

    Gallic vs. Gaulish

     

    Gaulish is the language right? So a noun?

    Gallic is the adjective I would use to describe anything like the Gallic Empire, Gallic troops?

     

    That's the part where I always get confused,

     

    Gallic troops vs. Gaulish troops.

     

    Any help in this matter would be great!

  4. Your Hidden Roman Name

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    Viking (like Sosigenes, here), you are a member of the Mallia gens -- a plebeian gens that, despite having been of no celebrity, nevertheless produced a consul in the year 105 BCE (Cn. Mallius Maximus).

     

    Your cognomen is "Beatus," signifying that your branch of the Mallii was blessed by the gods.

     

    Your praenomen is "Titus," customarily abbreviated as "T." Your full Roman name is:

     

    T. Mallius Beatus

    = estalmdlwtbuia -dw +us

     

    Or, if you prefer the praenomen of "Decimus" instead of "Titus," you could just as easily be:

     

    D. Mallius Beatus

    = estalmdlwtbuia -tw +us

     

    -- Nephele

     

    Great! Thanks!

  5. Your Hidden Roman Name

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    Viking, I don't know how I managed to have missed your posting here! My apologies for taking so long to get back to you. Looking at your scramble, though, I think those are way too many letters to work with. Could you please remove your middle name(s) from the scramble? Thanks -- and welcome to UNRV!

     

    -- Nephele

     

    Thanks! I took them out.

     

    Btw, I see that your posting was #666 in this thread. Coooool. How could I have missed THAT?

     

    haha! I didn't even notice that! cool.

  7. The Battle Of Alesia - The Effect The Battle Of Alesia had on the Gaul

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    Wow, thank you so much for all the information, I will take a look at it over the next few days in greater detail, and post some more thoughts!

     

     

    You can always begin HERE; please note there are many additional links to related topics (Vercingetorix, Gallic War, Gergovia and so on).

     

    yea, I've already read all of those pages a few times, I loved them!

     

    Your nickname reminds me of a hushed side comment made by Professor Harl in his audio course about the Vikings (from "teaching company"). He suggested Ceasars epic overkill in Gaul likely caused a domino effect by depopulating Germany of tribes who had been drawn into helping out the Gauls. This vacuum was filled by southern Danish proto-vikings moving south to become present day Germans. He joked about this being a secret because no one dares to say Germany was essentially founded by an Italian, so I guess you won't find any citations.

     

    I also heard this was why Augustus had so much trouble fighting the Germans... they had a north-woods almost guerilla tradition that didn't involved centralized towns and forts that the Romans could focus on and besiege. Oh, somewhere else I heard Julius practiced such brutal overkill in order to impress his own side and that it wasn't militarily necessary. Or maybe it was in the euphoria after continually winning when outnumbered 2 to 1? Well, this isn't much help, just some half remembered background...

     

    Woah, that's an interesting theory!

     

    It's not necessarily Alesia alone that ended Gallic resistance to Caesar. The defeat of Gaul was a series of battles and events. However, Alesia constituted a horrific defeat in morale for the Gallic armies... They had the Romans on the proverbial ropes, threw everything they had at them and were ultimately crushed. What hope was their for victory if the Romans couldn't be defeated under the circumstances presented at Alesia?

     

    The result of the war is well known. Whether the numbers of dead and enslaved are Caesar's embellishment or a truthful representation of Gaul's population, it's clear that the fighting age male population was severely diminished. There was little practical hope for a continuation of open and unified resistance. Even as the next generation of fighting age males matured, they found themselves recruited heavily for the civil wars, as both legionaries and auxilia (the latter likely in heavy numbers). Other than rather isolated revolts (Batavia in AD 69 comes to mind) that didn't really involve core Gallic tribes (Germanics in the case of Batavia), the Gauls also became conditioned to Roman rule and found that it wasn't necessarily such a bad thing after all. That presents a rather simple concept of "Romanization" but it was the defeat at Alesia, after the attrition of 7 to 8 years of war, that broke the collective Gallic will to fight.

     

    Ok, I was under the impression that after Alesia, all Caesar had to do was fight small skirmishes against small fragments of resistance in the surrounding regions. Yea, the blow to morale is one of the things I'm looking at. Thanks for confirming a lot of my questions! I'll take a look at what happened in Batavia too, I don't really know about it!

     

    Thanks again!

  8. The Battle Of Alesia - The Effect The Battle Of Alesia had on the Gaul

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    Try reading Inker's account of the battle. There is a chapter at the end on the aftermath of the defeat.

     

    'Caesar's Gallic Triumph: Alesia 52BC' by Peter Inker.

     

    If you're in the UK; Alesia at Amazon.co.uk

     

    If you're in the US; Alesia at Amazon.com

     

    If you don't want to buy it you should be able to get it from a library.

     

    Thanks, I checked up on it, it doesn't have very good reviews, so I'll try to get it from my local library. That end chapter might be worth it alone!

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