Aurelia
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Of course, I used "you" in an impersonal way but I should have said Wikipedia, really. My English is far from perfect as you can see
. Welcome to UNRV, Aurelia, nice to have a Portuguese native speaker on the forum smile .By the way, for clarity's sake, my source for the previous post is: Bonomi, Elementi di Linguistica Italiana, 2003 pp. 25-26, it is an excellent introduction for those who want to deepen their knowledge of the Italian language and all of its varieties (geographical, social, historical, etc.).
Yes I know Wikipedia, whilst convenient, is not always 100% accurate. Thanks for the welcome, Silentium. I look forward to more linguistic discussions in the future.
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Maybe the Neapolis mud-slde occurred slightly later, when rain mixed with ash and pumice and slid down the west face of vesuvius? I must say, I had overlooked the fact that Neapolis, Puteoli and Sorrentum emerged from this disaster relatively unscathed.
You're right, the underground city I mentioned above is believed to date back to the 3rd century (AD) or thereabouts. It was buried by a mixture of rain water and volcanic ash that caused the mudslide.
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Essentially anything and everything. I would like info not just on the tours one can go to, but some of the ones the average tourist would never hear of. What ruins or edifices, related to the Julians, Venus, or Mithras lay buried below? Fictionally, I am working on a werewolf and vampire novel, and the prospects of underground tunnels and ruins are just perfect for what I have created thus far. Is the underworld localized, or does it run everywhere underneath the city?
You might consider setting your novel in Naples instead as it has one of the most extensive underground systems in the world.
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Apparently, Roman Naples (Neapolis) wasn't buried by lava (flowed southeast), but was buried by mud! What's more, Nero's Theatre is preserved beneath the streets of Naples today!! Again, my book fails to mention this extremely significant piece of information. I was only lucky enough to find out by watching a documentary.
I've been in the theatre, you have to enter it through some Neapolitan's bedroom
I'm not aware of Naples being buried by mud during the 79 eruption though.
Parts of ancient Naples have indeed been buried by mudslides. The History Channel series "Cities of the Underworld" (perhaps this is the documentary you've watched?) mentions a section of old Naples dating back to the 3rd century that has been almost perfectly preserved in this way. It lies beneath a 12th century church.
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I have only been to the catacombs of Domitilla so I'm afraid I can't help you much.
I take it that you've seen the Roma Sotterranea website ? They have, amongst other things, a list of sites they've been working with. You can also contact them directly. What sort of information are you looking for?
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Very interesting, Medusa! If you ever come anywhere near Belgium let me know. I'd like to watch one of your reenactments.
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Great pictures as always, Klingan. Thanks for posting. You've inspired me to upload a few pictures of my own from my visit to Italy last year. I'll be doing it over the next few days (don't worry, only a selected few) - this way we can compare notes.
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Ok, I know I'm taking the easy road here but according to Wikipedia, Neapolitan, like other Romance languages, has partly evolved from vulgar Latin but also has a pre-Latin Oscan influence. An example is the pronunciation of the group of consonants "nd" (of Latin) as "nn" (e.g.- "munno" (world, compare to Italian "mondo"). In addition, Neapolitan also seems to have been affected by Greek. Unfortunately, no examples are provided in Wikipedia.
The phenomenon you describe here (assimilation of the consonant nexus "nd" to "nn") is in no way an exclusive of Neapolitan. The same thing happens in the Roman dialect mondo>monno , Abruzzese mondo>munnu and in practically all of the dialects of central and southern Italy. If the assimilation of nd>nn was really due to the Oscan substratum then we would have to hypothesise that such substratum was extended to all of central and southern Italy, and I am not sure that is the case.
I can't argue with you there. Italian or Italian dialects are not exactly my area of expertise - Portuguese is. So it's good of you to set things straight.
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Salve Aurelia,
I see, I got it the wrong way round then. The Girl from Ipanema, no less. And now living in cloudy and rainy Belgium. I do pity you.
And someone from Brussels that does speak Dutch. That's unusual I must say.
But you weren't born there. That probably explains it.
Lol, yes, I used to live quite close to Ipanema, as a matter of fact.
As for speaking Dutch, well, it's probably not as good as it should be precisely because I live in Brussels but luckily I like French too.
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I love that kind of PinC (or as I mistakenly used to say, PunC - another lesson learned) jokes. I'll have to look a bit further into that.
You have to be careful though with that kind of stuff : those frigging peace loving hippies and obroms (obsessive romans) don't have much of a sense of humour. They take Everything Dead Serious.
We have two humour threads running over at SVR. I have made a few contributions there myself. Not all equally funny, but hey, I'm only human. Here are the links.
Excellent links, FV, thanks for sharing!
"I'll have a martinus, please", hehehe.
People around here tend to be pretty open-minded. I haven't come across any obroms yet.
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I didn't know Hugo Chavez was ever regarded as a famous Roman Emperor, but according to the Uncyclopedia he is, along with Dick Cheney, Batman, and Pope Benedict XVI (amongst others). This is totally politically incorrect and I love it!
There is a whole section on the Roman Empire. I particularly like the entry dealing with Biggus Dickus. Fascinating!
This being a Romanophile forum, I expect someone has already found out about it.
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Salve Aurelia,
Yes, the SVR is a very friendly place too. A bit more 'sleepy' than over here. More adapted to my pace, I guess. Just a few people that are really active there, but all well worth meeting (well, almost all) I can guarantee you. There has been quite a bit of movement between the two sites these last few days, initiated by your friend Ursus. So you'll see a few familiar names over there too, just as I have seen some here.
So, are you living in Brasil or what ?
I assume you are Dutch speaking ?
Out of courtesy to our fellow members I'll keep it to a minimum but I'll have to say :
'Leuk jou te leren kennen en vele hartelijke groeten'
Well, you seem to be doing just fine over here despite the faster pace.
Answering your question, no, I am not living in Brazil right now but I was born in Rio de Janeiro and lived there up to my early teens. My mother tongue is Portuguese but I speak Dutch too (although not perfectly). I have moved around a bit since then but now I live in the capital of Provincia Belgica (I have dual citizenship). I have even lived in Antwerp for a little while in the not so distant past! So we are indeed neighbours.
A.
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To my fellow country woman Aurelia : thanks again for your warm welcome. You probably know that SVR has a few Belgian members too. (The Founding Fathers, no less.) But they are not the most active ones. Well, not in the short time I have spent there.
Looking forward to hearing more from you all.
Valete Optime !
You are very welcome FV. I must admit I am also new to these online discussion boards having joined UNRV only 1 month ago. I have not been to SVR yet (although I have heard of it) so didn't know it was created by Belgians! I am looking forward to seeing you join our discussions.
Vale (or should I say tot ziens?
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These are perfect examples of how to be introduced to famous classical works through popular culture.
This is how I first heard Franz Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 as a little girl. And I have never forgotten it.
And this may very well be how I first came across Johann Strauss II's Tales from the Vienna Woods and the Blue Danube
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I know this sort of comment is normally reserved for the introduction thread so sorry to be invading your territory, Nephele.
I just wanted to say howdy neighbour! It's good to see another Belgian joining, even if you're from the far away city of Antverpia.
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Excellent! Thanks Moonlapse! I do like Lambic too so if you say Midas Touch is similar, I'll definitely look for it. One would think that because I live in the land of beer it would be easy to find it but I guess people are spoiled for choice here so why go for an American import, right? But I'll keep looking and will let you know what I think when I find it.
So watch this space.
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Some of my all-time favourites are:
Samuel Barber,
I've head it in a couple of films including Platoon and Am
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Your on!!
I just realised how sad that sounds, an English man in Brussels going to an English pub. That wasn't the only bar we visited though, we did take in some of the Brussels culture too you know. It was just that Churchill's was the closest bar to our hotel and in blizzard like conditions we didn't really feel like doing much walking if you know what I mean.
Plus it also showed live English football and sold English crisps too (Walkers) We'd been away from home for quite a while by this point and just craved a few home comforts!!! Lol, that's understandable when you're home sick. But I'll prepare a nice itinerary for you next time you come including bars that serve their own (almost artisanal) beer like Lambic.
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I certainly will. Despite the weather I thought Brussels was a great City, very cosmopolitan, I met some very nice people in the short time I was there and also found some very nice bars too. Churchill's being one of them, do you know it?
Churchill's, THE English Pub? Yes, I know it. Nothing wrong with that but let me know next time you're coming and I'll take you to see some really cool bars around Brussels (some of them over 300 years old).
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I'm a Sign Installation Engineer, I spent 3 months installing and repairing Lexus signs through out Europe. It was good but just a shame we had to do it in the winter months instead of the summer months!
Wow, not bad! Pity indeed that you came in winter. Brussels is quite a lively place in summer with its bars, cafes, open air concerts, etc. You should give it a another chance.
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I was working in Brussels in November/December 08 and the weather was atrocious, it pretty much snowed and rained for three days solid and I was working outside Brrrrrrrr!!!
I particularly remember one Saturday night, there was a serious blizzard going on, it was that bad that we couldn't leave the pub until it had calmed down!! I was really really gutted..............Not!!
May I ask what you do that you have to work outside?? Are you an engineer?
Yes, wintry landscapes normally look more romantic in photos that in real life, lol. I do like snow, but I would be lying if I said I'd rather be here than Brazil in December (I did get some rain there as well but at least I could go to the beach afterwards
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I've been waiting for our resident beer connoisseur, Moonlapse, to review it.
Is this the same beer?
-- Nephele
Yes, that's the one. I thought Ursus was also a keen beer drinker. But then again, this is probably not the sort of stuff people normally drink in the pub.
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Excellent Aurelia! Mind if I ask what sources you have used in writing the article?
Didn't get to the end of the article, I see. Just kidding. The references are at the very bottom of the screen in very small print.
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