Pygmalion

Agamemnon (Ἀγαμέμνων) ressembles Memnon (Μέμνων) King of Aeithiopia. In the myth of Perseus, he goes to Aeithiopia and takes away Andromeda, by comparision, Paris goes to the Peloponnese and takes away Helen, as if the Myth of Perseus is in opposition to the Trojan War. Peloponnese (Πελοπόννησος) means Πέλοπος νῆσος "dark-face Island" and so Αἰθιοπία is a synonym and the rocks in which Andromeda where chained are the Scironian rocks in the Isthmus and also the naming was transposed to the dangerous rocks near Joppa, Phoenicia, hence also interpreted to be Aeithiopia.

The young-horse here is the same as the Trojan Horse and it makes its leap when the Pleiades sets. The Pleiades constellation is important to ancient Mediterranean sailors as its setting marked the season of sailing, when Pleiades sets below the north-western horizon around Sprin , the little-horse (Equuleus, Eculeus) launches its leap, this constellation is also adjacent to the Delphinus constellation, maybe the reason why the dolphin-horse or hippocampus is a symbol of sailing. In Aeschylus the word leap, πήδημα is 𐤌𐤐𐤎𐤇 or 𐤐𐤎𐤇 in Phoenician, that derives Pascha, so originally a Phoenician rite at the beginning of the sailing season, the Persian modified Phoenician mythology producing the myth of Moses basing him on Cambyses and changing the whole meaning, but the Red Sea in context is the Mediterranean Sea adjacent to Phoenicia, which is called Pamphylian Sea in Josephus.

This vase depicts Orestes mourning his father Agamemnon, instead of a tomb there is a pillar (στήλη, κιών, σταθμός) on a raised platform (βωμός) This verse reveals that the Peloponnesians cremated the dead and placed the ashes or bones into an urn, so similar fashion to Romans, cf. cremation of Julius Caesar. So here Orestes was also cremated and his ashes were put into a small urn. These are the ancient ruins of Mycenae and there is a doorway, like a Torii, entrance to the Necropolis and there is a single pillar. Here is another example of a pillar-grave, this is placed beside the gate leading to the Isthmus, which is associated with Melikertes (Μελικέρτης) also known as Palaemon and Portunus. Here the associated with Isthmus (probably from σταθμός) with Melicertes, Palaemon hence also Portunus, Melqart and Hercules. This is very important context for the word κενοτάφιον means "empty-tomb" and are made to honour those perished at sea, hence unable to recover the bodies for cremation and burial, hence the connection with Melicertes who died at sea. This is from Aeschylus on the death of Agamemnon and its clear the poetry here is cryptic and uses similar vocabulary in regards to Melicertes who is placed in a λέβης which was thrown into the sea, it also reads πίτνει δ᾽ ἐν ἐνύδρῳ τεύχει "He falls in a vessel of water" and so this maybe interpreted that Agamemnon died at sea, hence why in epigraphy it depicts a pillar-tomb or a cenotaph. Melicertes dies at sea. This is a depiction of Herakles and he is inside a tub with the sea inside of it, this affirms my theory that Agamemnon and Herakles are one and the same, one similarity is that Herakles killed his family, where-as Agamemnon kills his daughter. Herakles was killed by his wife, Deianeira when she gave him a poisoned robe stained with the blood of the centaur and in Aeschylus, Agamemnon 1125, Agamemnon is killed by his wife Clytemnestra by goring him with a robe. This is Bāal Hammōn depicted as if he were a pillar and this is also Agamemnon. Ἀγαμ > Γἀαμ > Βάαλ = Bāal έμνων > έμμων = Hammon Bāal is the Phoenician sun god, same as Sol and Ἥλιος (ἠέλιος, ἀβέλιος, ἀέλιος, ἄλιος) and in Homer, Ἥλιος is paired with Ὑπερίων "Hyperion" which is 𐤏𐤋𐤉𐤅𐤍 in Phoenician, but this proper Phoenician noun is translated into ὕψιστος so that Ἥλιος Ὑπερίων is perverted into Ἥλιος Ὕψιστος becoming both Heliogabalus and Zeus Hypistos and the Romans built temples for these in Syria, probable origin of Sol Invictus. Hammon Bāal might be the same as the name Hannibal meaning Ἥλιος ἐγέννησε (Ἥλιογενής) "Sun begat" and also Ζεύς ἐγέννησε (Διογενής) "Zeus begat", although some interpret Hammon to mean κάμινος oven, furnace. cf. Apollodorus, Library 3.4 - Ino threw Melicertes into a boiling cauldron (

Appian opens his chapter with this statement, putting the founding of Carthage fifty years before the capture of Troy. The Romans think it was founded by Dido, but the Aeneid makes her contemporary and consort to Aeneas, a veteran of the Trojan War and thus a chronological contradiction. Aeneid also makes Aeneas the founder of Rome so that both Carthage and Rome were founded at the same time. There is also the problem with Cádiz (Gádeira, Gādes) and how it fits into the founding myths of Carthage and Rome. The traditional founding of Cádiz is dated to 1100 BCE, but this falls within the Bronze Age collapse of the Eastern Mediterranean, so it could not have been founded by Tyre at that time and how could Cádiz be founded before Carthage? Numa Pompilius is an alternative founder of Rome, of Sabine descent said to be colonists from Lacedaemon, this name is used interchangeably with Sparta and situated on the Peloponnese. The Trojan War was a war between Peloponnesians and Trojans and so there is a Trojan founder and a Peloponnesian founder of Rome. Pompilius resembles the name Pummay on the Nora Stone, which mentions a war with the Sardinians, the Trojans are also called Dardanians and so could this be the same way? Trojans are the antagonists of the Iliad and so why would the Trojans be made into the founders of Rome instead of the Greek heroes?

I tend to put the words in the genitive since the structure of the root is usually intact in that case. sepeliō 𐤒𐤁𐤓 to bury, to perform the funeral rites of a man by burning

The Pillars of Hercules function as a boundary but the Greek god associated with boundaries is Hermes (Ἑρμῆς) and ἑρμῆς is also a word for a pillar and ἑρμαῖον a word for barrow and tomb. In Latin Ἑρμῆς is called Mercurius and this name resembles 𐤌𐤋𐤒𐤓𐤕 Melkarth cf. Μελικέρτης Carthage in Latin is Carthāginis and Καρχηδόνος in Greek and by comparison you can see exchange with each letter, the c/κ, t/χ and g/δ. The Phoenician 𐤒𐤓𐤕-𐤇𐤃𐤔𐤕 means terra nova "new land" for the noun 𐤒𐤓𐤕 means terrae (ἐρᾶς) with πόλις its secondary meaning (πόλις comes from 𐤒𐤓𐤕) and 𐤇𐤃𐤔𐤕 means ὑπόγυος; nigh at hand, fresh, new (ὑπόγυιος, ὑπογυιότατος). Ἑλλάδος "Hellas" and Γραικός "Greece" came from 𐤒𐤓𐤕 too. In Appian, Wars in Spain 1.2 the difference between Ταρτησσός (Tartessos) and Καρπησσός (Carpessos) is merely a matter of dialect, these words maybe a compound of νῆσος, νῆσσος, νᾶσσος "Island" cf. Πελοπόννησος (Pelopónnēsos).

Appian describes two versions of Hercules, the Theban and the Tyrian; however, in Greek and Latin sources, Thebes is always described as being founded by Phoenicians. In the Aeneid Dido is called a Sidonian (Sidonia Dido) and daughter of Belus who is also father of Palamedes (Belidae nomen Palamedis) and Pygmalion in Verg. A. 1.335. I think Palamedes (Παλαμήδης) Pygmalion (Πυγμαλίων) Cadmus (Κάδμος) are the same figure and also Dido (Διδὼ) and Europa (Εὐρώπη). Mela says that the temple housed remains of Hercules, so then it is a tomb, in fact the Homeric definition of στήλη (Stele) is block or slab used as a memorial i.e. gravestone and this is what Phoenicians did, so the temple/tomb housing the remains of Hercules would also have a στήλη. The Phoenician word for στήλη is 𐤑𐤉𐤅𐤍 (κίων) which is also the word for Zion for the city of Zion was a Necropolis (νεκρόπολις) or a Tophet burial site. στήλη 𐤑𐤉𐤅𐤍

Herakles and Hercules are very much the same god with minor differences and not the same Hercules whom Fabius Maximus was offering to in Appian, Wars in Spain 11.65. Appian, Wars in Spain 1.2 It is my opinion that Tartessus was then the city on the seashore which is now called Carpessus. I think also that the Phoenicians built the temple of Hercules which stands at the straits. The religious rites performed there are still of Phoenician type, and the god is considered by the worshippers the Tyrian, not the Theban, Hercules. But I will leave these matters to the antiquaries. Here it mentions two distinct versions of Hercules, one called ὁ Τυρίων (Tyrian) and the other called ὁ Θηβαῖός (Thebes)

Ancient Greek writings emphasize the Phoenician origin of Dionysus by portraying him as the grandson of Cadmus of Tyre. It appears that Hercules was originally the grandson of Cadmus. The largest temple the Romans built was the temple of Bacchus that they built it in Phoenicia in what is known as Baalbek (πόλις Διός καὶ Βάκχου/Urbs Jovis et Bacchi).

In Strabo the nature and whereabouts of the pillars of Hercules' was subject to debate. the strait by Calpe Onoba, a city of Iberia: considering that here were the Pillars They reached Gades and founded the temple in the eastern part of the island, the capes in the strait are the pillars of tis temple The pillars are two small islands, one of which is named the Island of Hera (Juno) Planctæ and the Symplgades supposing them to be the Pillars, which Pindar calls the Gates of Gades Strabo 3.5.5 For nothing else resembles pillars around the strait but those eight-cubit bronze pillars in the temple of Heracles in Gadeira (οὐδὲν γὰρ ἐοικέναι στήλαις τὰ περὶ τὸν πορθμόν. οἱ δὲ τὰς ἐν τῷ Ἡρακλείῳ τῷ ἐν Γαδείροις χαλκᾶς ὀκταπήχεις) The most interesting theory is that these are temple pillars and the wiki entry of the Temple of Hercules says it was flanked by two large columns according to Latin historian Pomponius Mela. In Herodotus, the temple of Hercules in Tyre was flanked by two large columns, and this Hercules was the dead hero. Hence, Pomponius mentions that the temple housed the remains of Hercules. In fact, the ghost or phantom of this deceased Hercules was encountered by Odysseus within the gates of Hades in Odyssey 11.601. In Homer, the term used is "Πύλαι Ἀΐδαο" (Gates of Hades), and the pillars of Hercules are also referred to as "Πύλαι Γαδειρίδες" (Gates of Gades). Herodotus describes one of the pillars as emerald and Pomponius Mela talks about a tree at the Hercules's temple whose fruits were said to be emeralds, but I have determined that these fruits are pears through my study of Phoenician language and this fruit is also sacred to Hero/Juno. The golden apples associated with the daughters of Hesperus are pears which are said to reside near Gades. cf. Island of Juno. Fabius Maximus here sailed through the Straits of Gades offering sacrifice to Hercules. In Plato, Critias 113 from which the story of Atlantis came from It mentions that the twin brother of Atlas, son of Cleito was named "Gadeirus Eumelos", the eponym of Gades and "Cleito" (Κλειτὼ) resembles the suffix of the name Hercules (Ἡρακλῆς) and the word κλεῖς (Lt. Clavis), a word for straits. κλεῖς (Kleis) of promontories, straits, etc., Κληῗδες or “Κληΐδες (LSJ). This also why in Rev 1:18 it reads κλεις αδου "Keys of Hades" (Κληῗδες Ἀΐδαο) see also Isaiah 38:10 𐤔𐤏𐤓𐤉 𐤔𐤀𐤅𐤋 (Πύλαι Ἀΐδαο) "Gates of Hades" and Psalm 116:3 𐤌𐤑𐤓𐤉𐤟𐤔𐤀𐤅𐤋 (Στένον Ἀΐδαο) "Straits of Hades". The Phoenician refer to Hercules under the name Melcart who also appears in Greek mythology as "Melicertes Palaemon" and this hero also died, Dolphins carried his deceased body into the port of Isthmus, a narrow piece of land connecting two large areas hence also envisioning "pillars of Hercules", Isthmus is called πόντοιο πύλαι "gates of the sea", Κορίνθου πύλαι "gates of Corinth" and Πελοποννήσου τὰς πύλας "Gates of Peloponnese" in ancient Greek writing.

According to Appian, Carthage was founded fifty years before the capture of Troy, even though Aeneas, a veteran of this war, had a relationship with Dido, the supposed founder of Carthage. Should make a thread discussing this.

This Dido figure is still a mystery, was she invented by Romans and did the Carthaginians knew of her. The first chief of Carthage was either Hanno I c. 580 – c. 556 BC Or Magon I c. 550 – c. 530 BCE but nothing is known where these people came from. I have studied Ancient Greek and Phoenician and just now dabbling with Latin.

Hi, new here, I am interested in the Aeneid, Punic wars and Latin language.