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  1. Is there another example of a similar action by the Jews anywhere in history - before or after this report? The Jews have 55 prophets and every one of them are cherished and revered today, making this an incumbent historical question. While there is no question that Jews sniggering with beedy eyes over the death of another Jew, as per Mad Mel's Passion flick, even if they disagreed with his views, it is an evil deed unquestionably. But it happens to be most implausible and made wholly without any arms length whatsoever, written in Greek - then the enemies of the Jews, with not a shred of historical evidence of a single figure listed in the Gospels. Why did Europe, far away from the scene, accept this, is perhaps the greatest enigma in history.
  2. Does this mean Rome would have embraced Jesus if Jews had no hand in this alledged, non-historical Gospel report - one must wonder what Rome would demand of a Jewish Jesus and how he would respond to save himself? My history research shows, of over a million Jews mass murdered without any trial, up to 800 cricifixions a day, including all the temple priests along with their families, they had no chance against Rome's heresy decree. Especially, one wonders if Jews alone were targeted for heresy in Rome's empire, and why Jews alone became so fastediously impacted by Rome's heresy decree in this 70 year war. It begs the Q: were other nations equally impacted by their then non-monotheistic positions at this time - did any reject sacrificing to Roman emperors and dieties for 2000 years before Rome emerged? How much logical credence is evidential, viable or plausable of the Gospel claims from a historical POV, is the issue here.
  3. There were 95,000 Jews brought to Rome. 3000 were expended as sport in the colosseum. The Jews battled Rome to the last man and women, including all the priests, throwing themselves onto the Roman swords and denying Rome the kill. The Jews taken to Europe represent substantially the only people who withstood enforced conversion and remained as Jews for the next 2000 years. Some 10,000 in the Roman army converted to Judaism of their own free will, while no person in the Roman/Christian block was able to withstand the presurre to conform or be eliminated or cast as an outcast. One cannot conclude only by considering European later descriptions of this war - a very different picture emerges when contemporary, pre-christian archives of Rome and Hellenism are studied. One finds this was the greatest display of belief in all recorded history - and the most distorted one as well, and actual historical examination presents logical reasons for such a position.
  4. What factor allows the term rebels here? I mean, did any other nation observe monotheism to be tested as the Jews? In a sense, those who did not reject Rome's heresy decree should be called rebels and/or disloyal. The Jews did not revolt because of the heavy taxes, which went on since day one; the revolt occured because of the heresy decree, and this was a foregone conclusion. When Caligula introdcued heresy, Herod did not obey it and it was not enforced, because he knew what outcome would result. The situation under depraved Nero changed the status quo, whereby the great revolt resulted. The Roman contemporary archives [not Josephus] clearly show the Jews revolted against the decree to house Roman statues and conduct daily sacrifices in the temple - a situation which found a unique rejection by Jews alone in the Roman empire. In a sense, Jews paid the price for freedom of belief, one which did not bode well with divine kings. Josephus also states the revolt was initiated by the rejection of the sacrifice order as opposed anything else. One must not forget this was not a new situation - the Jews held to this belief for 2000 years before Rome entered the scene, lastly with the Hellenist invasion of Judea, specially after Alexander's death. The Hellenists were firmly behind the revolt instigation, and issued similar decrees before Rome. After the Hellenists' first translation of the Hebrew bible in 300 BC, their priests started to despise Judaism, a situation seen by the Jews in all pagan systems before this time. The heresey decree continued under Christianity for some 1500 years, and implemented with a greater ferocity than all previous regimes.
  5. While this is correct, it does not represent the whole story. Caligula resurrected the heresy decree, later again resurrected by Nero in 66. Here, the Jews found a unique problem as no other nation or peoples, having already incurred such wars with a host of nations prior to the Roman invasion of Arabia. The premise of later Christian persecution was negligible in comparison. This issue, IMHO, became the fulcrum point for the strict monotheism adopted at that time by Judean Jews, culminating in the greatest war in history - by period of time [70 years, from 66 to 135], human toll [over 2 Million], destruction [an entire city was plowed ton the ground with the then greatest monument in the world utterly destroyed], and world impact: had this war not occured, there would be no Christianity of Islam. In a sense, Rome lost.
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