Zeke

I have never even heard of Sarmatia. Or Sarmatian Knights for that matter.....I think it is accully a fancy word for "Scythian." Zeke

Thanks Crysnia.

Hello my friends, I have not been on this website for a very long while for my computer crashed and I just got it back. I am writing a book on Flavius Claudius Julianius the last Pagan Emperor of Rome. Also know as Julian the Apostate. Is a historical Fiction novel but it is looking quite good. Here is some information I have retained so far to give you a little hint of who he was. Roman emperor 361-63, b. at Constantinople in 331, d. 26 June, 363, son of Julius Constantius, the half-brother of Constantine the Great His mother was Basilina, the daughter of the governor of Egypt, who died shortly after his birth. With his stepbrother Gallus, who was some years older, he escaped the massacre of his kinsfolk at Constantinople after the death of Constantine the Great, and was brought up by the eunuch Mardonius and the philosopher Nicocles

Since when has a building been made out of Titanium and Steel (Besides Sky Scrapers) the average American home today is made of wood. Weaker material then stone because it rots faster and termites eat it. The materials the Romans used were not that weak.....several are still standing! Nan I don't think I would want to start a fair lol. A modern day Rome wouldn't be an Empire and it wouldn't be the accul capital of Italy. It was just use Roman things and such. The European Union I think might be the closest thing to a new Roman Empire, just not in an "Empire sense." Sorry about spelling, Zeke

Gods! I want to live there so bad to.......Lynch if you don't mind could you explain it a little bit to me I want to become a citizen there an live the Irish way its always been my main dream. I am an American. Whats good about Ireland and whats bad??? And don't say the weather I love wet and cold. Sorry about spelling Zeke

I yeah I get that feeling to. It seems really romanaized I just finished the Skystone and now I am going to move on to the singing sword. Wonder if thats any good............. Zeke

Ok I know I have said what if there was a Roman Empire today.....which is almost impossible but what if someone started a political party called....Roman Republicsm Party or something Latin that was catchy. Do you think a system of government run by two Consuls and a Senate of some 900 members from each of the 50 states could work? Also the people elected Senators to vote for two Consuls each year? Or do you think that a system like this would quickly fall apart? Why or why not? Explain your answer using examples from history and explaining a little bit more about the Roman Senate... I need a history lesson on it. I personally believe that maybe a system like that of the Roman City-State might work. Sorry about spelling, Chery O! Zeke

Well you probably have just never relised it. Pagans keep to themselves due to persuctions by Convervative Christians. I personally have never met face to face another Roman Pagan I am very open with my spirtuality and when I tell other people I am a Roman Pagan they say its a phase I am going through and that the light of god will see me again. They say I just want to rebel and be uquine. Why would I rebel if I KNOW that there are not many Roman Pagans in the world,If I wanted to rebel and be uquine I would dye my hair purple and think I was cool lol. I have seen weird stuff though in dreams and in the night sky. Soon I will have a whole dedicated to my gods. But thats just me I have so many friends that arn't Pagans so yeah. But pompeius magnus you probably have run into several Wicca fallowers but never know it. I know 4 or 5 at my high school. Lets get back the orginal subject though of why people are intrested in Rome. I think its because it was one of the greatest Empire of all time and without Roman culture and ideas, well we might be living under kings. Sorry about spelling, Zeke

oh yes....I posted a Post called Roman Paganism on the forums it explains what I believe and why I became a Roman Pagan. But yes I converted myself to Roman Paganism when my dad died. About 2 years ago. Very few people in the world today are born in to Paganism except in India, most discover their spirtuality themselves. sorry about spelling Zeke

Yes I agree most of the so called "Pagans" I meet are really out there and most fallow Wicca. They are heavly into magic and secret societies all of which don't appiel to me. Zeke

I also have several shrines in my home and a whole room deidcated to praying and sacrficing. To add to that Sacrficing is just taking the energy of a gift......Wine, Flowers, objects etc. and giving it to the Gods. How is that done through a complex ritual of praying and singing and showing reverance. The energy of the object that would normally take a long time to manifest itself into something of spiritual nature is directly sent to the Gods. Zeke

Well Paganism and its impact on the Roman Empire keeps comming up in other debates so I think I will start a debate about Paganism so we can get it off our chests THIS IS ALL MY OPINION SO NO ONE TAKE IT OFFENSIVE To start I am a Roman Pagan and I am fully confident of that I started to be one when my dad died two years ago. I asked myself what type of Religion do I want to be what do I belief in....does spirtuial power even exist?? I looked at the history books, certain mythologies and stuff and I came to the conclusion that, Chriasianity isn't for me because I don't like the "Authroian" nature of it. Wicca isn't for me because well I don't believe in their magic stuff and their tarrot and the whole dark rebelliong against soceity thing. So I looked at the ancient roots of old religions. And I relised that they was some spirtual power ready to be awakened in the long forgotten Pagan Religions of the Old Roman Empire. So within about 3 months I had totally converted to the Roman/Greeco Pagan Religions of old. Let me just give you a basic outline of what I believe and why I am a Roman Pagan. What I believe of how religion works 1. I believe in alot of science lets just esabalish that things are governed by science and the number of atoms in an element which makes compounds and things and all the rest, graviy, why things happen etc. 2. That yes, Humans evolved from Apes, spirtual things didn't create humans 3. Humans created religion, but it was human energy, (all things have a bubble of energy around them) that created the existance of supernatural things that cannot be explained. Example: Human energy never dies it stays on this earth so with commbinations of human energy certain spirts formed, and Gods, Goddesss and their beings came after. Souls are not energy, there just the essense of life that is IN LIVING things not stones and rivers. But Plants, animals, fugi and humans. 4. There are three worlds: This world, the spirtual world/afterlife and the past. This world is what we humans live in composed of the Earth and our universe. Spirts live in our world as do energy admited by all things. The Spirtual World/after life is like the happiest places on earth. It really depends on what Religion your belong to and whats kinds of Good places and bad places their are in your religion. Humans can go here only in deep spirtual trances in my opinion. The past is what has happened from the beging of Earth since energy has always inhabbited all things. Though it was Human's energy that first created the conecpt of Religion and Gods and Goddeses. Anything that happened in the past from 5 seconds ago to 5 years ago to 500 years ago effects humans to this day. 5. I believe that human personality energies molded together a number of diffrent gods and goddeses from diffrent regions in a commbination of spirtual energy, explaining why each region of the world always had religion and certain diffrent gods and such. So you must repspect the spirtual things of what region you are going into unless your are opposed to it. 6. In the example of Chrianisty, Christanity almost took over the world and is in nearly every country today, I think the resons of this is because so many energies of Christian believers went into the one Hebrew God that he gained more power in the world. When people stop believing energy is taken away sorta of like messing with the atoms of elements. Your just messing with energy. And if you are not a Christian and your a Pagan your energy goes to whatever you believed in. If your an Atehiest it just ceases to be. NOW that I have explained energy I will explain what I believe, what I worship and the future in my eyes of Roman Paganism. After all my ranting what exacly do I believe??? 1. I believe in 12 main Gods and several minors ones from Greek and Roman Classical Religion-Dii Indigites, the deities native to Rome at its founding. I also belief in several forgien Gods that were incoporated into the Roman system to please. Dii Novensiles, foreign deities who were either fully assimilated into the pantheon or otherwise associated with Roman religion. 2. Spirits that inhabbitat certain trees and rivers. 3. Reverance toward Mother Earth (Gaia) and her creation. 4. Ansestors. 5. Several Holidays of the Roman Religion which I have to incoportate into my religion. In the future hopfully Roman Paganism will refound in my view the only way this will happen is if the few believers in Roman Gods come together and pool resources to build temples and places of worship they offer public services to the comman people and show that Roman Paganism can be trusted in the eyes of the world, help people and hopfully a reformed preisthood. That is what I believe. What do you belief and how do you back up WHY you belief....................................... Thanks, sorry about spelling Zeke

Yeah I agree with you in several ways but....here is my view. I think it is perfeclty ok to adopt new gods into your Pantheon if you a Pagan. The thing I don't like is these new ages Wicca views where they incorperate Gods and Goddeses from the Roman and Greek Pantheonons and mix with a whole bunch of magic and stupid stuff. They also put in Christian Montheism which doesn't match. I think Roman Reconstruct Paganism should be kept at a basic level without all the magic that Witches incorperate or these new age Hippies. I also like people who don't change their views on religion even if it gets really tough. Thought I would prefear Christians going back to their anceint Roots. To add to this.......I worship Roman Gods yes but I also worship some Celtic and Nordic deities because the Romans incoporated them into their system. The history of Rome clearly says that they still have reverance for their old gods but also respect the new ones. Sorry about spelling Zeke

A little bit of anything but basically I want my life to be run Roman Pagan Style. And I like all the history of Rome and it culture and art. I got into its Military latter on in fact. I also want build a Roman Temple and a Villa for myself when I turn 18. Zeke

I just noticed that half of the threats on UNRV are all about the Roman Military and its Legions. We need a little more Veirty if you know what I am saying? Savy?

Did anyone ever read The Skystone? By Jack Whyte its a great legened to King Authur and a good account of Roman Britian before it fell to Barbarians. Also know any other good Roman Historical Fiction Books?? EAGLE IN THE SNOW IS ON THE TOP OF MY LIST. Sorry about spelling Zeke

Do you think something relitavly close to the Roman Empire could be formed in a country. Example:Lets say a country like Luxmberg or the Netherlands wanted to become Roman, like really Roman, Roman looking towns, Latin Laungage, Roman Religion, Roman Culture and the like. Rome Republiscim also. Do you think that a new Rome could be ahcieved if enough people wanted it to happen. Except the new Rome would have modern day technolgy in the buildings and medicene and the like. So do you think it could happen a nation could go Romaniazed and become just like the Empire of the past. Explain your answear Sorry about spelling Zeke

Are you a Pagan Gnaeus Cornelius?

A Democratic-Socalisit government with high living, collectivized farming, high taxes, all run on Hydro,solar,wind,peat,coal,eutheral and Vegatble energy.Everyone has a job, a place to live, and enough things to keep them entertainted. No president but two Consuls elected each year, the capital of the world would be most likly in Geneva. Countries would be like states Zeke

The only one out of all those the wasn't depmented was the first one. Augustus would be the most likly, maybe Caligua

You got to look at it this way in those days everything wasn't as expensive as it is now heck you could trade a donky for a fish! lol. The Romans had more man power though and all Italian. Carthage had mixes very few Carthgians were employed except for Sea Men and Carthgian Generals to command mixes of Nubians, Celts, Belrics, Spairnds etc.

Viggen may I make a suggestion that we add some sort of Relgious Forum cause were always starting up a debate on Religion. pompeius magnus I totatally support you being a Muslim and all and Viggen you being a Catholic. I would think that you would be affraid to be a Muslim in the war were having. I really don't support it because its your Religion and we shouldn't try to force it "WE" meaning the Americans and its Allies. We got rid of a harsh dictator but now....well I have a feeling that we are causing problems for the Muslim Religion which is the second most largest religion in the world. Sorry about spelling Zeke

Yep exacly right pompeius magnus, I just asked not be converted too and the reasons why I don't wish to be converted I never said anymore now did we? And did you know that nowadays the Catholic church is cooler then it once was.....you got be proud of some of it accomplishments the Roman Religion was never that cenetercalized if Catholcism could take over my religion well you give it some credit. But anyway nice long post......good points their to, but I see it diffrently. The Hebrew God was just another Polythestic God in a Pagan world, people started to fallow him because of his mystical son Jesus and that he offered more consultment then Mitharas, or Isis, or Jupiter for example. He just took over using a dictatorship of power and now he is building his Kingdom on earth. BUT in many ways I am Atheist I like scince and I also think it makes alot of sence. For example man created Religion to explain things everyone knows that we evolved from Apes its a known fact. But when humans started to belief in something truly belief then the Poylthestic Gods arose from the earth I don't know how really it just happend. Other then that Humans are made out of Atoms as is everything else along with compounds, liquids, solids, gas all that stuff. The only diffrence between us and the Gods are the Gods are Immortal and you can't see them (unless in a Vision) I love nature and the Gods are derived from Nature I don't know about the christain God cause in his sacred Text....he made the world and everything in it . I admit that most of my religion documents and myths are just stories and Myths but there are also alot of stories and Myths in the bible. All and all well I have nothing else to say really I just wanted to give you a fast fact. I don't really care if your a Catholic or a Protesent. If you a Catholic you fallow the pope have more rituals and more elaborat churchs with a whole bunch of gold. If your a Protesent your a Fantical Christian with a simple wooded church that doesn't send out saints to heal people but does like to convert people. The two are both Christians its was kinda of stupid to have a bloody war over it. If you are one of the two I resepct your Religion I am not going to go out murdering you or starting a Crusade like your average Christain would do. Come to think of it if you God was more liberal and allowed Female Deities to help it out or talked about Nature a little more then I might incoporate it in to my Pantheon. But it deosn't so I can't. And Lovedone sorry if I was a little harsh on your earlier about Religion, pompeius magnus is right in someways. So anyway I am going to go read Meditations by Marcus Aurelius, great book. sorry about spelling, Zeke

I for one is an example of Roman Pagan, a small yet growing movment in Neo-Paganism. All I ask is that we have a healthy debate and that we talk about the Roman Empire in general......don't try to convert me and don't say that I worship false gods cause in my view Christainity was just a cult that has destroyed countless civilizations and brought the end of some of the greatest empires in histroy, your god is nothing to me just another God that people were converted to. But anyway.....Welcome to UNRV History I am sure you will enjoy your stay here.....though there are not many of us and you will find the main posters are primuspilus, Ursus, Moonshade (I think thats his name) myself and some other indivduials. We need to somehow attract people to Roman History.....I mean it can't be that boring I quite enjoy it. Cheers, Zeke

Where would you want to live, Europe though I am an American love the place! I accully don't like my country no matter what everyone says I really don't like my country....I am not going into it but if you had a choice where would you live in the world??? Zeke