The British Love of Drowning Small Animals

[Onasander]

http://m.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/discovery-of-sacred-roman-well-amazes-archaeology-team-1-5516258

 

Roman well discovered.

[Artimi]

Cruelty to animals in any form is universal, whether for sacrifice or dog fighting. No culture is immune.\

[Onasander]

Sometimes I hold my cat under the covers, he's afraid of small spaces.....

Some things are more universal than others.

[caldrail]

Sacrificial cults are nothing unusual in human behaviour. Blood rites were common around the mediterranean. As it happens, the British used to sacrifice each other too.Along with every other celtic peoples.

[Onasander]

I can understand sacrificing people, because there are alot of useless people, such as a ex wife or a in-law or two, but your own dog? There is something deeply disturbing about this.

[Artimi]

Why would you do that to your cat when you know he is afraid of small spaces.???? why???

why do we humans accept cruelty?

[Onasander]

I expose him to it because he is afraid. I try to force my animals to the deepest of their wits. Half the cats I've owned can open closed doors, one can even turn the tub on.

 

This cat in particular was the runt. I baby him so he feels entitlement, so he can assert himself. He even eats holding sausages holding it with his thumb claw, similar to a human.

 

I encourage was is feral and elite in them, in response, the most intelligent aspects emerge. Greater depth of complexity and personality. You can't grow without the struggle against your instincts. The best of what you can is yoked to it. It must lead you, or you it.

 

If I can only convince this little runt to shut up in the morning, he figured out the importance of tonal yelping to get what he wants. He mixes it with repeatedly leaping over my head.

[Artimi]

He is helping you grow with his yelping and jumping.....

Most cats exhibit some this kind of behaviour in the morning. You just need to learn to wake up before he does that

Edited November 8, 2013 by Artimi

[Onasander]

Or drop him in the well.

[caldrail]

I can understand sacrificing people, because there are alot of useless people, such as a ex wife or a in-law or two, but your own dog? There is something deeply disturbing about this.

By our standards, perhaps, but please realise that Roman's did not have the same attachment to animals that we do today. Think of the third world, where animals are used as beasts of burden or usually in some practical capacity such as food, guards, whatever. In fact, the Roman's could be very callous about animals - the biblical quote in Genesis about humanity being given mastery over nature is pure Roman attitude, and even in the late empire, when a writer records that there were 'no more lions in Thessalay, no more Hippo's in the Nile", he laments the loss of opportunity for spectacle and the consequent demonstration of power, but at no time regrests what his ancestors had done. In any case, the Romans saw the outside world as a mysterious place, guided by vengeful and fickle divine beings, who needed placating. Even crossing a river was potentially trespassing on a gods domain and risked being swept away by an angry river god. Note how difficult it was to persuade Roman legions to cross the English Channel, even after Caesar had done it - both Caligukla and Claudius had minor mutinies to deal with. All in all, the loss of a dog meant little if life was bountiful and pleasant afterward.

[Onasander]

Ummmm..... you never seen rustics and their attachment to their dogs, have you?

 

I know the same mentality exists at least in Albania as here in West Virginia, if you harm someone's dog, they will shoot you.

However, if you head three hours over to Detroit, people kill dogs for sport.

 

Detroit is a collapsed plebeian hellhole that only knows one word, socialism. Hence the disturbing chaos and low respect for life, human or dog.

[Onasander]

Detroit = Rome

Everywhere not Detroit/Rome = Rest of Roman Empire.

 

Dogs are good to keep around.

 

This well incident could of just been a guy too lazy to bury his dogs when they died and tossed them down a not to sacred well.

[caldrail]

Ummmm..... you never seen rustics and their attachment to their dogs, have you?

 

I know the same mentality exists at least in Albania as here in West Virginia, if you harm someone's dog, they will shoot you.

However, if you head three hours over to Detroit, people kill dogs for sport.

 

Detroit is a collapsed plebeian hellhole that only knows one word, socialism. Hence the disturbing chaos and low respect for life, human or dog.

 Ummmmm.... You never seen charity adverts on television showing how animals are actually treated, have you?

[Onasander]

I know the whole process for pig, cattle, and chicken

 

They die when its time to be eaten, and are not bred for intelligence. I have issues hunting wild animals, even chickens unless they are killing crops. But caged ones tend to be psychotically stupified into nothingness.

 

If a creature actually shows love and affection towards people, and a visible fear of death, I wont eat it. The chickens and goats in Iraq slaughtered in the streets didn't show either affection or fear, nor knowledge of what was about to happen, just annoyance they were being manhandled.

 

Now, a pet goat no way. The wild chickens in hawaii a bit more intelligent, given the survival pressures of independent living. Not too smart even then. Literally barely above instinct..... My boss had me hunting roosters and chickens that would assault shop owners, running inside pooping, ruining stuff they were crafting..... those chickens would drop everything at dusk, even if I just shot and wounded one with a pellet gun, and sit in a nearby tree some ten feet off fhe ground and roost.....

 

I was giving them to a crazy filipino, but found sometimes I could just grab them, and walk them a half mile down the road to a chicken farm and throw them over the fence uninjured. The crazy dog would run up barking, and chase it for a minute till they flew on a coup, or fall asleep mid chase.

 

Hence, I dont weep over tge death of chickens, they have nearly no intelligence, and I question beyond one chicken, who I felt sorry for killing its mom (worst wild attack chicken of them all), I fed it once as a chickling, but it stuck around..... didnt want to kill a baby, but had to get rid of it, so I threw stuff at it and yelled at it..... it was always wary of me, but if I left the door open to my shack, would stand at my door clucking for food friendly like. Hence, it had some intelligence, as it new the parameters of the situation.

 

Im willing to bet the chicken farmer couldnt figure out where all the extra chickens kept appearing from.

[caldrail]

Chickens may not be the cleverest animals. but they do have a modest imntelligence along with any creature with any brain organ. For instance, I know of a chicken shed that was raided by a fox. The farmer found the carnage the fololowing morning and was devastated at the loss. However, the farmer discovered by sheer coincidence that his crafty rooster had played dead, and thus survived a little ruffled rather than mauled.