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Callaecus

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  1. That's all very well, but what do you think will happen if everyone can see what is underneath the soil?

    I'm not sure what your objection is. In what concerns me, the more people enjoy studying the past, so much the better. If you're concerned that amateurs will start doing all sorts of weird theories, then don't worry about that. First of all, an interpretation must be accepted by others, which means that gross errors wil be easily pointed before something is accepted. Secondly, a lot of fringe archaeology occurs today because archaeologists keep most of the knowledge for themselves. If people can participate more and more in archaeological activity and work and learn with prefessionals that's a good way of ensuring the disappearance of all sorts of weird interpretations.

  2. One of the most significant events and probably the most important battle in Europe since the Battle of Tours happend 323 years ago and shaped the future of Europe (and the west in general) in a way that we are still affected today because the Battle marked the historic end of Turkish expansion into southeastern Europe. King Sobieski of Poland who led the relief army is till today regarded as a hero in vienna and rightly so.

    I think that the battles that took place in the 16th century, when the Ottoman power was at its apex, were way more important to stop the Ottomans than the 1683 siege. Let's see:

     

    1529 - First siege of Vienna, that stopped Ottoman advance into Central Europe

     

    1565 - Siege of Malta

     

    1571 - Battle of Lepanto

     

    These two battles stopped Ottoman advance into the Western Mediterranean

     

    And last, but definitely not least:

     

    1509 - Battle of Diu (in India), a naval battle where the Portuguese defeated a Muslim armada ensuring in this way that Europeans and not Muslims gained control of the Indian Ocean and through it the riches of Asia.

     

    That the Ottoman danger in 1683 was not as great as that, can be seen in the fact that a few years later the Austrians conquered parts of the Ottoman empire.

  3. It's amazing the level of trade connections between northern Europe and the east that survived the fall of the Western Empire.

    The trade survived, but it was not as high as in the Roman Era. Besides, let's not forget that some (most?) of the non-Viking material found in Scandinavia was instead the result of their raiding activities. The Vikings were active in the Mediterranean, having even conquered the island of Sicily (more precisely, the Normans), which can also explain the Arabic coins.

  4. Hmm, interesting article, but I would be a bit careful with the conclusion that the perfuration of the mollusc shells was intended for necklaces, since it could have been done to take out the food. The thesis about the necklace would gain more strength if there were also other shells in the vicinity that were not perfurated; however, the article doesn't say nothing about the context of the findings.

     

    That's an excellent point.

    Thank you.

     

     

    The perforations could have been made by urchins to get at the animal and later enlarged by humans. You can see these holes on periwinkles at the sea shore. However, if you have ever eaten snails (presuming that is what the shells are from), you will have used a single tine like tool to get at the animal through its opening and not drill a hole through the shell. Much, much easier.

    Snails have a larger opening, whereas in the picture provided in the link the opening of these shells appears to be very small. Notice, however, that I find reasonable the interpretation about the shells having been part of a necklace. Yet, I'd like to know more about the context in order to be more sure.

  5. This would also allow to a lot amateurs to be archaeologists since anyone can do a digital excavation.

     

    No, it will still take highly trained professionals to interpret the results. If your suggested technique becomes readily available to anyone with a passing interest, it would be a disaster for archaeology.

     

    Not really. Notice that in a "real" excavation, mistakes frequently occur; the problem is that such excavation is not reversible because excavation is destruction, which means that all we have at the end of the day is the data provided by the archaeologist, including its mistakes. Now, the great advantage of a digital excavation is that it is reversible, which means that you can make as many virtual digs as you wish and you can compare your results with others. From such comparisons lots of mistakes can be removed and a richer view of the past can be obtained. This means that amateurs can also participate, because any "mistake" that occurs is reversible.

  6. Reasons why they left may have been from native Americans, but I find it hard to believe they left from weak tribes since they had a reputation for being so powerful.

    There is a difference between reputation and results. And the truth is that there wasn't much that a small group of Vikings could do in a place so far away such as Vinland.

  7. Does the term 'Eastern Warfare' include such as that practised by Scythians, Indians, Chinese, Mongolians, Vietnamese, Japanese and Arabs?

    Yes. The Mongols and the Arabs were absolutely typical with their constant evasive manoeveurs. In the case of the Chinese let's remember Sun-Tzu's work where he argued that the best victories are those were a battle is not fought.

  8. Perhaps they will have some sort of modern influence in it (otherwise many modern audiences won't see any relevance in the story). But I hardly think it will become a sort of anti-American film.

    Well, we'll see that when the movie comes out (though I hope it won't).

     

    I have no doubt that a lot of the brutality of the ancient world will be removed (along with other unsuitable subjects: Temple prostitution and child sacrifice) but over all, I think we can expect a rather dumb-down action flick.

    Agree on this point. I doubt however that I will be able to see it until the end. In the case of Vin's movies, I was never able to see beyond the first 10 minutes. ;)

  9. How else did the Gauches get to the Canaries from Iberia? :ph34r:

    The neighbouring African coast is a more likeley candidate...

     

    I think the key to how plausible it really is resides in the Ancient Irish (who are direct descendants of Neolithic hunter-gatherers) legacy technology of the Currach & Coracles.

    Hmm. I doubt that. Taking in consideration the form of Mediterranean ships in the Antiquity, the canoe is a more likely candidate for the boats used in that area during the prehistory.

  10. What is needed instead is the development of ground penetrating radars that allow to make an accurate registration of layers and archaeological remains below ground. In this way we could make a digital excavation in computers without the need of digging with shovels. This would be revolutionary because it would speed archaeological work and would allow us to have access to an enormous number of past remains and , as such, to have a better idea of the past, much of which is still fragmentary and speculative. This would also allow to a lot amateurs to be archaeologists since anyone can do a digital excavation.

  11. I think Favonius Cornelius is probably correct in his analysis of early Roman warfare based in warbands. The hoplite formation and style of warfare is a Greek invention and one that was later adopted by the Romans through the Greeks living in Southern Italy. Obviouslly, it is not impossible that Greek equipment was sometimes used (maybe it was better or more prestigious, for example), but that does not mean the Greek style of Warfare was also used. To make a modern analogy, the AK-47, was initially used in Soviet armies but it was also later used by guerrilla groups in the Third World.

  12. Here is a thought provoking essay on the subject.

    Very weak article. The author assumes that:

     

    1) Becase Caesar's invasion of Britain left few archaeological remaisn then something similar could also have happened in Ireland. That is a forced analogy and the same could be said for any other place outside the Roman empire such as India.

     

    2) The existence of contacts at the high level between Romans and Hibernians; another forced argument; Pantagathus and Bryaxis Hecatee have already provided a good reply.

     

    And the author of the article is the keeper of the Ulster Museum. I wonder what kind of archaeology the Irish are doing?...

  13. One thing I enjoy doing about historical movies is to try to figure out what political aspects concerning our contemporary world influenced it. From what I red in this thread and in the link provided by Primus Pillus, it seems that the purpose of this movie is above all anti-American. Let's start wit the analogies: Rome was the greatest empire ever (a word that today has became ugly), whereas the USA is frequently compared to an empire. Carthage was in Africa, an area that today is part of the Third World; the USA has been and continues frequently engaged in wars in the Third World. So, since Hannibal defeated the Romans in a number of battles and the movie pretends only to give emphasis to them (and perhaps make a lame excuse of his defeat in Zama), one can see here an attempt of portraying Hannibal as an anti-imperialist, Third-World hero, with thw implicit assumption that the "imperialist" Americans can also be defeated today. Actually, this theory gains even more weight if Denzel Washington, who is Black (a colour associated with the Third World), is chosen to perform Hannibal, who was White as one can see in this Roman bust:

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bust_of_Hannibal.jpg

     

    In this way, the movie also has a racist twist, since it subtly becomes anti-White, being all Whites seen as imperialists.

  14. For so long I have heard the term Western and Eastern Warfare. My question to you is, are there any differences? I know the West obvioulsy got some indirect and direct tactics from the East, but how were they made to be 'Western' style.

     

    My second question is who invented Western warfare, and who fought in Western style? Were they the Greeks who started it, because evidence has shown they have a fairly, 'Eastern' fighting style if I'm not mistaken.

     

    Answers?

    John Keegan in his book A History of Warfare argues that Eastern Warfare was mostly based in surprise attacks and evasive manoeveurs. The purpose was to caught the enemy unaware and avoid as many casualties as possible on your side. On the other side, Western Warfare, was developped by the Greeks during the Classical period and was based in close combat, being the purpose to settle the dispute once and for all in the battle field instead of wasting time with prolongued campaigns as in te East.

  15. Taking in consideration that they were hanging gardens it would be a bit difficult to find them in the archaeologicl record; at the most, only the mechanisms that sent water up would be found. But as Phil25 rightly said, the place is not yet fully excavated; besides I agree with those that say that one can believe in the written sources; after all, the remaining wonders of the world existed and one of them - the pyramids - is stil around.

  16. Hmm, interesting article, but I would be a bit careful with the conclusion that the perfuration of the mollusc shells was intended for necklaces, since it could have been done to take out the food. The thesis about the necklace would gain more strength if there were also other shells in the vicinity that were not perfurated; however, the article doesn't say nothing about the context of the findings.

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