Primus Pilus
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I see Quintus Pictor referenced here and there, a early roman historian. I haven't found any English translated versions, so maybe someone who knows Latin could suggest where to find an untranslated version. My Latin isn't very good but I'd be curious to at least make a quick read through. Also it would help out A LOT with my final report for AP Ancient History.
If anyone has a PDF (or any other file format), I could PM you with my email and you could send me a copy? (I have a sinking feeling that this will otherwise only be available in some $$ academic journals which my HS library doesn't have access too).
As I understand it there is very little if any surviving text. It exists as reference material for later writer Polybius, Livy, Plutarch, etc. Modern historians still debate his style of writing and functional historical role. Such an argument can only take place as conjecture and in the absence of direct evidence. If his work survived the debate takes a different form (ie the impact of his work, the historicity, etc.)
Damn. Strange that Quintus was writing just around 180 years before Caesar yet very little(?) of his work survives but we have all of Caesar's conquest of Gaul. You can even buy it on Amazon.
If anyone has info on where to get what portions are available I'd still very much like to know. It's got to be somewhere... in some old book somewhere in Europe.
Caesar's work survived (in part) because of who he was... the passage of time didn't diminish his popularity or his work's availability. Thankfully, despite the church's monopoly on publishing and common literacy in the post Roman era, the medieval monks at least were wise enough to preserve the texts of other important historians and pass them on through time.
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I see Quintus Pictor referenced here and there, a early roman historian. I haven't found any English translated versions, so maybe someone who knows Latin could suggest where to find an untranslated version. My Latin isn't very good but I'd be curious to at least make a quick read through. Also it would help out A LOT with my final report for AP Ancient History.
If anyone has a PDF (or any other file format), I could PM you with my email and you could send me a copy? (I have a sinking feeling that this will otherwise only be available in some $$ academic journals which my HS library doesn't have access too).
As I understand it there is very little if any surviving text. It exists as reference material for later writer Polybius, Livy, Plutarch, etc. Modern historians still debate his style of writing and functional historical role. Such an argument can only take place as conjecture and in the absence of direct evidence. If his work survived the debate takes a different form (ie the impact of his work, the historicity, etc.)
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While Tacitus makes sense, I couldn't think of an immediate reference, but Caesar jumped to mind immediately. In de Bello Gallico book 4 chapter 3, Caesar says:
"On the other side they border on the Ubii, whose state was large and
flourishing, considering the condition of the Germans, and who are somewhat
more refined than those of the same race and the rest [of the Germans], and
that because they border on the Rhine, and are much resorted to by
merchants, and are accustomed to the manners of the Gauls, by reason of
their approximity to them."
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/txt/ah/Caesar/CaesarGal04.html
I sent this along, but I was asked if I could post the question to the forum, so if anyone has any better references, please do post them. Karim also asked that I post his direct email address if anyone would like to send info along directly. kmata@uchicago.edu
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I received an email request from a graduate student at the University of Chicago requesting some help on Germanic research. The email is as follows:
Hello,I am a graduate student at the University of Chicago and am wondering if
I can use your forum to request help.
I am looking for a piece of ancient text (Tacitus, other?) about
Germanic society but cannot remember the author or book.
The reference I am interested in mentions briefly the fact that Germans
were gradually becoming more civilized because they were settling and
having markets.
I am afraid I have no more than this.
I hope you can help as this reference has alluded me for too long.
Thank you.
Warm regards,
Karim
kmata@uchicago.edu
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i've been looking round at biographies of that most dastardly tyrant octavian, and i've seen references to a 'life of augustus' in fragments by nicolaus of damascus, and i was wondering, perchance, if anybody knew the location of a reliable translation on the web, preferably on a website so reliable i could cite it.
What's the matter? Isn't Forster's (1913) translation of the Latin translation made in the thirteenth century by the Englishman Alfredus from an Arabic translation (now lost) of the Greek original good enough for you?
There is a version available online via California State U. It's in the list of links available in the following thread:
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I am always surprised how little attention is paid to Nymphidius Sabinus - surely one of the most pivotal people in the year of the four emperors (though actually he doesn't make it to 69).
I think it is debatable as to whether he conspired with Galba to get the Guards to desert Nero or whether he just takes advantage of the situation.
I was wondering what everyone else thought?
Based on the outcome, it would seem doubtful that Sabinus conspired with Galba. It seems much more likely that he acted on his own (or in league with other local players), as one opportunist among many in this volatile time period. Had he been one of Galba's men, there would have been no reason for Galba to appoint a replacement or for the Praetorians to execute him upon Galba's approach to Rome... unless of course Sabinus got a bit too grandiose in his own designs once the leash was loosed just a bit (which is quite possible). From what we know though, Sabinus did not receive an award of any kind (at least by political or military appointment), so playing such a pivotal role on Galba's behalf just doesn't add up for me.
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Here's a decent treatise via the University of Tennessee. In a cursory review, they seem to be suggesting that the Roman origin is through the Greek Pythagoras, but I'd suggest a more in depth investigation.
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Would've been the same result. Surrounded as you are by overwhelming numbers.
Indeed, the death of 300 Romans. Much like the 300 Fabii against Veii at the Cremera (or so the legend goes). Livy History of Rome 2.5
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Thanks all... I've been really ignoring my own birthday for the last few years... no particular reason, just a lack of personal empathy I guess.
A friend of mine called me yesterday and said, "Such and such person is having a poker party on Saturday.. want to go?" I answered yes without hesitation and hung up the phone, when my wife proceeds to remind that Saturday was in fact my birthday. (Which means we have some sort of plans I would guess)
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Despite the temptation, I'd recommend not showing up for work in your birthday suit.
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I hope you get your kangaroo problem taken care as a birthday present.
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...blog and gallery has to wait till some denarii are floating in from somewhere...
cheers
viggen
I hear the US Treasury is handing some out. Too bad we're not a bank or an automaker. Go Government!
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We are in the middle of a forum upgrade - bringing the forum, blog, etc. up to the most recent version of the software - and have experienced a bit of technical difficulty in the process (particularly Monday night/Tuesday morning depending on your location). We believe we are past any more potential outages and should be completely finished very soon.
Apologies for any inconvenience.
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I got #5 wrong... the Herculia threw me off a bit as I was never very strong in the later imperial legions.
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I used to enjoy the olympics but American television is so obsessed with feature story-telling and "primetime" slots that we see very few actual events.... and even fewer as they actually happen. Unfortunately, the CBC didn't re-up it's contract to air the olympics so it's airing on another non public Canadian network that isn't available in the US (at least not on my system), so I won't be watching much.
If I had my choice though, I'd watch hockey, downhill and a few runs of luge/bobsled just because I think those guys are a bit mental.
The winter olympics should add two events... ice fishing and ice fishing rescue when it's too warm and the ice gets thin.
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I was turned off by the copycat filmography of 300.
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It at least fixed the order. Thanks!
Everything appears to be normal.... but the post dates still say "yesterday" and "today". Tomorrow we should know if posts from the 2nd display the correct day and year. I think it should be fine, but let me know if you see anything else funky.
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I made a change to the blog code that might fix this problem. It seems that Invision is aware of the problem, but I can't tell if they are actually working on it. In any case, the fix should allow new posts to appear, in the proper date order, but the display dates might not work correctly...
Still investigating.
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Quite impressive Albert... thanks for sharing it with us.
Admin note: Just for the record, I believe the original Albert may have been caught in my recent purge of members with no posts. Since this topic is in a forum where post count is not credited, his account showed zero posts despite this topic. I've manually added post count to Albert's new ID so that this won't happen in future purges... cheers!]
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My house. Don't laugh at my Christmas light lameness. I almost fell off the roof... twice. And after I finished putting everything up and having previously tested everything, discovered that an entire strand of the roof icicles were irreparably burnt out.
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Merry Christmas, all!
If I could figure out how to extract pictures from my phone and put it on this PC, I'd upload a picture of my house lights. =P
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The interesting thing about VIIII Hispana is that it disappeared, was found by archaeological evidence, and disappeared again. Prior to more recent evidence the main theory was that it was destroyed by the Picts in the 110's, leading to Hadrian's wall project. However, later archaeology showed that it did in fact survive, at least in some form, only to disappear sometime around the Jewish revolts of the 130's CE.
The Crassus legions are more interesting to me than those of Varus. While the Varus legions were largely destroyed, enslaved, etc., there is that interesting element of mystery about the Crassus legions that ended up in Persia, China, etc.
[EDIT: I guess the original story also says this, but I posted before I actually bothered to read it =P]
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What fascinates me is the widespread use of coins. Now... Is that Roman influence? I ask because gauls and britons adopted coinage from the Romans, but then, did Rome adopt coinage from those clever greeks?
Unquestionably. It was contact with the Greek colonies in southern Italia that directly influenced Roman coinage. Most early Roman coinage, especially silver, very much resembles Greek coinage of the time. Hercules was a popular artistic impression. David Sear provides a very nice intro here.
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I hope this works.
Here's my attempt to share the images of Parthian and Roman coins I discussed earlier:guy also known as gaius
Thanks for sharing Guy... my own limited numismatic experience hasn't taken me into the Parthian empire. They present a rather interesting artistry.
Lex Gabinia
in Gloria Exercitus - 'Glory of the Army'
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I assume you mean the Lex Gabinia of 67 regarding the eastern command of Pompeius. On the Roman Legal Instutions page, I've provided the direct links to the ancient source material of the major laws.