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IT IS INTERESTING TO READ ABOUT THE CENTURION WHO STOOD AT THE CROSS OF JESUS CHRIST WHILE WAS CRUCIFIED ON THE CROSS. THE CENTURION STATED 'SURELY THIS WAS THE SON OF GOD.' I THINK THE NAME OF THE CENTURION STARTED WITH THE LETTER L. I THINK HIS NAME WAS LINIUS. COULD SOMEONE SHARE WITH ME WHAT BECAME OF THE CENTURION.
DELICIA~ MY ROMAN NAME
I suppose you realize this question is more christian hagiography than bona fide Roman History.
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Let's try this one:
"Those fellows were bad losers
so when I beat all them
even in his prison, my brother
ate some teen , if not the men"
"My father's father had four legs
my brother's father too
my brother have some horns
but legs? just two"
I am Androgeus, and my brother is the Miniotaur.
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WOW! JSTOR access undoubtedly helps, but you're really good in prosopography...
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Let's try this one:
"Those fellows were bad losers
so when I beat all them
even in his prison, my brother
ate some teen , if not the men"
"My father's father had four legs
my brother's father too
my brother have some horns
but legs? just two"
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An Indian Agrippa, indeed!
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Let's try this one:
"Those fellows were bad losers
so when I beat all them
even in his prison, my brother
ate some teen , if not the men"
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Cassandra?
Of course, LW Your turn
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Another easy one:
"Please believe me,
he gave me the gift
but as I cheated
he added a twist
now I see your death
I can tel youl the truth
why should I bother?
you
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Oh I thought of him earlier today. Wasn't sure of the myth behind him though...and couldn't remember his name either.
My love had rather fled
Than be taken to my bed
We did run along the stream
And as if within a dream
A tree she did become
That tree my sacred sign
Who is she? Who am I?
Is she Daphne?
Are you Apollo?
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Salve, G
Sorry, no active link.
Maybe you were talking about Farah Abd Jameh and his group, who hijacked an oil-laden Saudi Arabian supertanker hijacked off the coast of SOMALIA.
BTW, I would rather recommend an Agrippa; Cn. Pompeius Magnus basically just relocated the Cilician pirates as his clients. Some of them and/or their descendents were undoubtedly among the Sicilian pirates under Pompeius' son Sextus; and most of them were eventually exterminated by Marcus Agrippa.
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WOW; excellent post , GG
[This information is from the work of Vivian Nutton. This is not a direct quote from Galen, only information derived from Nutton's studying his works. I have referenced Galen's work, also. Then again, you may be right and she may be wrong.Although brilliant, Galen was a pedantic, dogmatic and vindictive man who made many enemies as he ingratiated himself with the rich and powerful of Roman society. Galen should not be considered a self-sacrifing, altruistic humanitarian. He was not pressured to leave Rome early in his career because he was too nice. (He was later called back by Marcus Aurelius to help at the plague ravaged battlefront and to care for his son Commodus.) If I find the time, I will search for the anecdote where Galen admits to reporting a potential rival to the authorities for fabricated rumours of poisoning. The poor man lost his career and possibly his life.
I still can't see where did Dr Nutton and I contradict each other; I just considered unlikely that Galen had ever required a fee as high as "400 coins of gold".
It seems you never read Dr Nutton stating the opposite.
To quote Ralph Jackson from his excellent book Doctors and Diseases in the Roman Empire:
"...by his own account Galen spent most of his inherited wealth on books and scribes. The latter were required as amanuenses [transcriptionists], for Galen's vast literary output was due in large part to his method of composition. He did not write but dictated his work, quoting other medical authors at some length as a basis from which to develop the results of his own research and expound his own theories."
Galen had a long and productive career as a physician, possibly for more than 50 years. He wrote three million words over a lifetime. That calculates to 60,000 words a year. Assume he worked only 300 days a year and that calculates to 200 words a day. That number is very believable.
guy also known as gaius
Jackson figures are incredibly optimistic:
He assumed Galen never lost even a single page and that he didn't require editing or reviewing even a single word.
Jackson doesn't considered the time required for research and verification; Galen checked on all the available medical and philosophical literature of his time; eg. he quoted many Hippocratical texts written some seven centuries before.
(BTW, I'm sure that by now you're very well aware of this caveat, as Galen didn't have Internet).
But fundamentally, Jackson seems to consider that any successful Roman physician didn't have anything else to do but to write across half a century, being him travelling or taking care of the gladiators; not to talk about experimentation.
Finally, I understand 3,000,000 words is an estimation for what we currently have from him; we have evidence of many other lost works from Galen.
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Very interesting. I have really only scratched the surface on this one--I would like to which Native american groups have the negroid (which, by the way apparently is an offensive word) features you mentioned, and of course where you found that. I can think that there have been african chips that reached south america-and other places. Which brings up another question--where did teh aboriginees come from, and how the heck did they get to australia? Same goes for the polynesians/pacific islander groups. I find the answers behind the questions of human origin and migration fascinating, so if we have an expert who has been hiding out there, come and show off!!
ATG
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This slow loading .pdf file provides some insight... https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlui/bits....pdf?sequence=3
Gratiam habeo for such nice link, PP.
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Four legs have I, yet handy still
The hydra's poison still won't kill
By an archer slain,
With an archer I live
The last of my kind with much to give
Nessus?
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Are you... Anaxarete? (and the suicidal boy Iphis?)
From Publius Ovidius Naso, Metamorphoses, Liber XIV verse DCXCVIII to DCCLXXI.
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While Vespasian's elder brother Titus received their father's cognomen of "Sabinus," Vespasian (the younger Titus) was called "Vespasianus" (after their mother, Vespasia). Then, when Vespasian had sons of his own, his own elder Titus received the father's cognomen, but the younger Titus (Domitian) was named for their mother (Vespasian's wife, Domitilla).
-- Nephele
We agree.
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Salve, Amici.
He did - there was also a slew of new citizens called Antoninius from the same thing. However (as I understand it) by then Roman naming conventions had become flexible enough to allow some variations. Ever since Vespasian - the earliest I can find - adding parts of a distinguished female line also became acceptable. Vespasian was properly Flavius, but he added his mother's line of Vespasia, which is why he is Flavius Vespasianus in the sources. At least that's how I remember it, but will be happy to be corrected!Certainly sounds right! As you said, Roman naming conventions had become quite flexible by that time, as evidenced by the fact that Roman women were acquiring names of more variety, adopting their own distinctive, feminine cognomina.
-- Nephele
This might be too off-topic to keep in here, and perhaps should be split off...I'll let the mods take care of that. But...
Why was this acceptable at the time of Vespasian? Were women given more rights in society, and therefore adding the feminine-line to the name was acceptable? Or was it simply to be more distinguished?
It would seem to me that if it became acceptable to put the feminine-line to the name, then matrons of the family (not necessarily matriarchs) started to weild more influence and/or power. It's a big step in such a patriarchal world. I know that, as a whole, (patrician) women in Rome had more power and rights (for lack of better terms) than the (elite) women of ancient Greece, but they still weren't exactly 'liberated' in the modern sense.
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He knows she is behind him
She has to be
But her steps are so quiet
He has to know
He cannot turn around
He is not allowed
Suddenly he turns
They stop
A look
'Farewell, '
And she's gone
You are... Orpheus? I love that story of Orpheus and Eurydice. So sad.
Indeed it is.
Who's next? Not me again!-- Nephele
Indeed you are.
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He knows she is behind him
She has to be
But her steps are so quiet
He has to know
He cannot turn around
He is not allowed
Suddenly he turns
They stop
A look
'Farewell, '
And she's gone
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Creation's first lovers, denied embrace,crush my shoulders, fix my place.Two tortures set by an Olympian thug,Why must I struggle? Why not shrug?
Would you be... Atlas?
yes--want to give the decoding a shot? For example, "Creation's first lovers"? "Olympian thug"?
My best guess for the clues:
"Creation's first lovers...": Under one version (Hyginus) Atlas was the son of the primordial divinities Aether and Gea.
"... denied embrace": The Sky (Aether) and the Earth (Gea) have no physical arms.
"Crush my shoulders, fix my place": Heracles' petition while he was holding the Heaven.
"Two tortures set..." bearing the Earth and bearing the Heaven.
"...by an Olympian thug": Zeus
"Why must I struggle? Why not shrug?": A referrence to the novel by Ayn Rand.
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Creation's first lovers, denied embrace,crush my shoulders, fix my place.Two tortures set by an Olympian thug,Why must I struggle? Why not shrug?
Would you be... Atlas?
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I think a religion that severs an individual's ties from the family and the public life of the city-state, as Christianity did, is not something that the Roman state really could have "used" for its own agenda.
Professors in http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sh...timization.html argue that Constantine allied himself with one of the sects of Christianity that was most compatible with centralized government, and that he persecuted alternate Christian sects (eg. gnostics?), which I gather had a lasting influence.
Gratiam habeo for such excelent link, CC.
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But unlike the ancient Colossus, which stood 34 metres high before an earthquake toppled it in 226BC, the groundbreaking work of art is slated to be much taller and bigger. And unlike previous reconstruction efforts, officials say the Cologne-based design team is determined to avoid recreating a replica.[/i][/indent]
Ah, good old Guardian. Only they could have come up with a 'ground-breaking' statue. Gives the swords to ploughshares concept a whole new meaning.
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Salve, Amici
Here comes an easy one:
On Hellespont, guilty of true-love's blood,
In view and opposite two cities stood,
Sea-borderers, disjoined by Neptune's might;
The one Abydos, the other Sestos hight.
You are... Hero and Leander? Very nicely written! (But I believe the credit for these couplets goes to Mr. Marlowe.)
-- Nephele
Entirely right of course, Lady N.
Your turn.
From: Septimus Severan's ethnicity?
in Tartarus
Posted · Edited by ASCLEPIADES
Salve, Amici .