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  1. I wached an documentary on Tv about Gallipoli war. There were some sinipers in Turkish army and heavy guns. According to the documentary; English army had some logistic problems and didnt had enought informations about the geography. Thirsty was very big problem for English army. The result was terrible. Too many son for both side. There were friendship between enemy army. It is unacceptable today for one side to throw some fruit vegetable to enemy and for other side to throw some canned food in exchange, isnt it? It is only one example according to what withnesses and letters said. May be it was the last fight of gentelmen. Turkish government honoured the people (Enemy and Turkish people) lieing there together, regarded enemies as our sons. It is sad memory to remember and respect. I have some relatives lying there. Soory, may be i get out of the subject a bit. Thanks for reading me
  2. Kosmo, i am a man from Turkey, My name is Tolga i cant agree with ur Laz friends opinion about what turkish people in genereal think of them. Laz people are very clever people especialy they have natural ability for engineering and structural field. you can see them in many sector relating to these fields. They are well respected for their success. May be he or she was effected by some radical nationalist. i dont understand what he or you meant by "saving their greek charecter". Greek culture and Turkish culture are very similar to each other. Traditions, clothes, dances, dishes. Plus there wasnt a assimilation policy in historical records. May be we are people assimilated in the course of life without any interwentions. But the word "assimilation" doesnt explain much thing in Anatolia where is a crossroad of civilizations. if it would, we could easily find a solutions to our identity crisis in Anatolia. i have many laz friend here i havent heard such things.
  3. Russo Otoman war - Ottoman german wars Poitical strifes, Balkan wars rebels all weakened the empires economic and military power. Otoman was huge empire it made it hard to modernize as fast as many Europen countries In world war The
  4. i am a person from Anatolia. I am interested in old anatolian cultures. when doing some researche i found that site and saw ur argument on it. i dont know how to explain my idea in a short tex. to say a few: i have been in many part of Anatolia and i saw thet there re many type of face in every part of Anatolia. Many traditions living today have ancient anatolian root. In the past in millet system of ottoman when u ask ordinary people their nationalty . they would say " i am muslim, Ortadoks or Armenian" the term Turk meant Muslim people so Arabians and Bosnian people Albanian people called Turk. in the past the term Turk meant villager. you can see them in the old documents literatures...... My grandfather told me a story in which an old woman cursed him "you turk get out off that tree" when he was stealing some plum on the tree. But she was muslim and spoke turkish in his Village..... a simlpe turk according to todays standards. I have some Armenian anchestery from my father line and I have a Greek grandmom (mother of my grandmom). People in turkey listen similar music with greek and Armenians. i am not similar to people in Turkistan. it cant. may be i should say " i was hatti then persian....West roman..........Ottoman Turk..now i am turk in Turkey" may be assimilated or not i think i am child of marriage between many anatolian cultures. May be if Byzantine didnt lost i would be a greek or armenian or of another culture in Anatolia. Thanks for reading me, Best regards ..........
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