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  1. Hi Faustus, I have seen two grinding stones. Both were found along with many other items on a farm property in New Jersey. I found the second one myself. It was exposed about 3 feet below the surface of the ground, when a tree blew over in a storm. All the artifacts there had a tawny color (tan-brown). Both grinders were about as big as yours but did not have that notch like your example. One of the bowl-like stones that you use them with was found as well. It was a flatish rectangular stone with a oval bowl shaped cavity scooped out, but not very deep. Maybe 1 1/2 inches.

    We always wonder about how or why a tool is lost. Is it dropped? Or stashed somewhere and never retrieved? Was its loss the scene of violence during which the treasured object no longer seemed of any importance? The

  2. Near here an attempt was made a few years back to build a 1/5th scale replica of the Great Pyramid of Giza. The only announced purpose was as a tourist attraction, and it did have some appeal to the locals. In this case they had plenty of stone available to be harvested from the huge piles of unused stone blocks each about 20 tons each. They weren

  3. Grinders of bone? I would really like to see one of those. I would imagine them to wear off very quickly.

     

    On the topic of grinding in general, I have seen calculations that in a society based on a bread diet about every 10th person need to work in full time with grinding.

     

    Thanks Klingan,

     

    I believe the grinder mentioned was the "mortar" part of the two part "grinder system". This piece of granite in my images is quite heavy, and I imagine that sometimes the tool kit could be very heavy from the accumulation of the components. Imagine, then a grinder made up of the granite pestle and a hip bone with its concave surface to press the grain into to pulverize it. That might be preferable to a clay pot which might be inferior in several ways. The best I can do on that is that when looking for images of comparable pestles I recall seeing the mention of bone as the mortar component. Wouldn't that have been some bony part of a bison?

     

    The bread most likely would be more like a "taco" shell than the leavened bread we're used to. Not being very well informed about the native American's diet, it might be similar to that of some of the poor indians of Northern Mexico today, or you can click HERE for an informed viewpoint.

     

    I too gave some thought to the problem of the time involved in grinding flour. It does appear that corn (even native american corn) would lend itself to dealing with the problem of mass/quantity better than most other grains. It's been many years, but I remember reading a novel (Spirit Lake/McKinley Kantor-1961) which went into a lot of detail about the cultivation and production of corn by Indians in what is now Iowa/Minnesota. One of the character's names happened to be "Corn Sucker"; an English translation of course.

  4. Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus.

    Scipio was not only perhaps Rome's greatest general, but was a respectable politician and a conscientious Roman who, and unlike Caesar, retired to private life at the end of a long and storied career (though clearly in the face of extreme political drama).

    Like Primus, my thoughts first went to Cincinnatus whom I personally admire most, but even in Cincinnatti, Ohio a citizen can't likely go into just any restaurant and order up a "Cincinattus Salad", although probably every school child there knows who he was (and the motto "Juncta Juvant").

     

     

    Faustus

  5. I am still an infant in learning about Ancient Rome and Republic Rome. For some reason, I do love Caesar, again, I am still learning about him. I do think (my opinion) is that why Julius Caesar is so well know throughout Rome is because of his murder. People have been fasinated by the fact that Brutus was on of the murders. He was almost like a son to him. How could Brutus do that to his father figure?People all over the world love a martyr and that is the way they see him.

    Caesar, because he is the one figure which captures the imagination of the whole public

     

    Besides his life, we know so much about his death, and the events leading up to it, and little of his dreams:

  6. It's still not a good look for a politicians shooting for the top job, though, isn't it? Especially if your opponents are young and virile (and yes, I include Hilary in that category ) and you've had a practically senile old fart in office for the past two(?) terms. Isn't Dole proof? Age counted against him mightily, if I remember rightly, and he seemed much more youthful than McCain does at the moment. I also notice that the man is fodder every single night for Letterman and all of the other pisstakers - all of the jokes are about his age.

    Perception is reality. That is the mantra.

    Dole had more than age working against him. He also had the fact that he seemed to accept defeat from the beginning and really never did campaign during the race. The nomination was more of an

  7. I like Perry in Texas... not sure if he has any interest in the job, but he provides stable conservative leadership from a large southern state. Perhaps too close to Bush though in that respect?

     

    'Fraid so. Texans and friends of Bush (IMHO) are both verboten. Both he and Barbour are probably too smart to take the second slot. This is a measure of the power of the "sound machine". I do feel it has to be a governor. What that would impart, and better conservative credentials, are both things McCain needs most, especially considering his age; we have to consider the possibility there would probably be only one term for him.

     

    But on the age score, I'm impressed! He may be a little stiff, but he is definitely not brittle.

  8. I do believe that had Romney been a traditional Christian vs. a Mormon he would've won the nomination handily and Huckabee largely would've been a non-entity.

    Given the truth in that, and that McCain needs chief executive experience in a running mate, would Romney be a good choice for the VP slot?

    I for one, a personal choice, lean toward Gov. Barbour of Mississippi. His efficacy is supported by the Ds attempting to destroy him, as they always do with talent:

  9. The Michigan Dems should tell them to shove it and let the national convention have fun fighting over which socialist will get to beat the real Democrat McCain in November. :)

    You nailed it. But it can still be turned around if a way can be found to blame the Rs (to find the proper enemy to blame) for the mess the Dems have created for themselves. That has begun in Fla, where there is a history of election "difficulties" in D precincts. There Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz, after first blaming Howard Dean and party honchos, came around to adamantly blaming the Rs on a recent Fox News Sunday.

     

    Some of the volatility in the Dem party can be seen in the way candidate Howard Dean was 'ditched' after he made his famous 'scream' on winning the Iowa Caucus in '04. That too was soon blamed on the Republicans and Dean was given the Party Chair a year later.

     

    It is the stuff of hope for HRC, and this promises to be the most interesting convention year since 68. Played well, they might even get the Rs to pay for another (watch for that) D primary, at least in Florida, and even if they don't it appropriately focuses attention on the proper "culprits".

     

    And you are right on point with the problem Republicans have with McCain. This shows the flaw in a popular media pumping up their own nominee.

  10. As things stand now neither Hillary R. Clinton nor Barack Obama will go to the convention with the 50% of the delegate votes to get the nomination. Neither will be able to attain the 2,024 delegates needed to secure it without the delegates from Florida and Michigan.

     

    If Michigan and Florida are allowed to have a

  11. We see lots of conjecture here about an alternate history, Of course, when we make those leaps, all sorts of variables come into play and those factored against each other can, and do, result in too many imponderables. Another alternative is to look at what

  12. OUR HOME TOWN

    Bloomington Indiana Court House Square 1918 at the end of WW-I

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    Bloomington, Monroe County at one of Our Stone Quarries About 1950

    Steam driven equipment

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    Diver at an Abandoned Stone Quarry About 1955

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    A SIGN OF THE TIMES

    This may be slightly off topic, and just "water under the bridge" but indeed it is historic. The reason this picture was taken was the confluence of events, and when it appeared in the local paper it was noted only for that reason. In it Gary Atwood turns around to look back at Angela DeAngelis on the I.U. campus in late 1969. The couple later married and Angela became a founding member of the Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA, re; kidnapping of heiress Patty Hearst) DeAngelis died in a confrontation with police in 1974. (CLICK and read her words:

  13. The law around here it's that usucapio works after 30 years of posesion. Romans had a shorter term.

    Tennessee could use "eror comunis facit jus" - mutual error has legal effects.

     

    It's doubtful that Georgia will ever successfully cause a state line to be moved, in view of long standing Rights of "Adverse Possession", "Usucapio", and your mention "Eror comunis facit jus".

     

    In doing this about one hundred forty two square miles (91,000 acres) of land would be affected. This is probably only a threat to get a simpler result: an easement to get water rights separated from Georgia's access by only a mile distance. If they were to get an easement all the rest of their challenges would likely "go away". Indiana won access to the Ohio river for commercial traffic opposed by Kentucky, but with conditions.

     

    The Romans had that covered also when they incorporated rights of easement into their law:

     

    This from "ANCIENT ROMAN IDEAS OF LAW" (click)

    "The Roman law affirmed". . . . "The acquisition of property by purchase,

    gift, and inheritance, and by prescriptive right, was

    of course the subject of many laws. The law also recog-

    nized servitudes or easements, rights such as passage

    by path or road through lands of others, or the drawing

    of water. Naturally, contracts (pacta) relating to prop-

    erty rights were well protected, except that no contract

    was valid that was contrary to the public law and

    welfare."

  14. An interesting descendant of Roman Law?

    The state of Georgia claims an error in an 1818 survey marking the Tennessee border line was incorrectly positioned because surveyors used inadequate equipment for their work. The calculations were done by a "challenged" university math professor. We can hear it all now: "What If I

  15. A Medal for Horatius A Medal for Horatius

    The True Story

    (By Colonel W C Hall, printed in the British Army Journal January 1953.)

    Rome, II Calends, April CCCLX

    SUBJECT: Recommendation for Senate Medal of Honor

    TO: Department of War, Republic of Rome

    I. Recommend Caius Horatius, Captain of Foot, CMCMXIV, for the Senate Medal of Honor.

    II. Captain Horatius has served XVI years, all honorable.

    III. On the II day of March, during the attack on the city by Lars Porsena of Clausium and his Tuscan Army of CMX men, Captain Horatius, with Sergeant Sporius Laritus and Corporal Julius Herminius, held the entire Tuscan army at the far end of the bridge, until the structure could be destroyed, thereby saving the city.

    IV. Captain Horatius did valiantly fight and kill one Major Picus of Clausium in individual combat.

    V. The exemplary courage and the outstanding leadership of Captain Horatius are in the highest tradition of the Roman Army.

    ________________________________________

    JULIUS ANTINOUS,

    Commander, II Foot Legion

    Ist, Ind, AG IV Calends, April CCCLX

    TO: G-III

    For comment.

    ________________________________________

    G.C.

    IInd Ind, G-III IX Calends, May CCC

    TO: G-II

    I. For comment and forwarding.

    II. Change end of paragraph III from "saving the city" to "lessened the effectiveness of the enemy attack." The Roman Army was well dispersed tactically; the reserve has not been committed. The phrase as written might be construed to cast aspersions on our fine army.

    III. Change paragraph V from "outstanding leadership" to read "commendable initiative." Captain Horatius's command was II men, only I/IV of a squad.

    ________________________________________

    J.D.

    IIId Ind, G-II II Ides, June CCCLX

    TO: G-I

    I. Omit strength of Tuscan forces in paragraph III. This information is classified.

    II. A report evaluated as B-II states that the officer was a Captain Picus of Tifernum. Recommend change to "an officer of the enemy forces."

    ________________________________________

    J.H.

    IVth Ind, G-I IX Ides, January CCCLXI

    TO: JAG

    I. Full name is Caius Claudius Horatius.

    II. Change service from XVI to XV years. One year in Romulus Chapter BPOE, has been given credit for military service in error.

    ________________________________________

    E.J.

    Vth Ind, JAG II, February CCCLXI

    TO: AG

    I. The Porsena raid was not during wartime; the temple of Janus was closed.

    II. The action against the Porsena raid, ipso facto, was a police action.

    III. The Senate Medal of Honor cannot be awarded in peacetime (AB/CVIII-XXV, paragraph XII, C).

    IV. Suggest consideration for Soldier's Medal.

    ________________________________________

    P.B.

    VIth Ind, AF IV Calends, April CCCLXI

    TO: G-I

    Concur in paragraph IV, Vth Ind.

    ________________________________________

    L.J.

    VIIth Ind, G-I I May CCCLXI

    TO: AG

    Soldier's medal is given for saving lives; suggest star of bronze as appropriate.

    ________________________________________

    E.J.

    VIIIth Ind, JAG II Calends, June CCCLXI

    TO: JAG

    >For opinion.

    ________________________________________

    G.C.

    IXth Ind, JAG II Calends, September CCCLXI

    I. XVIII months have elapsed since event described in basic letter. Star of bronze cannot be awarded after XV months have elapsed.

    II. Officer is eligible for Papyrus Scroll with Metal Pendant.

    ________________________________________

    P.B.

    X Ind, AG I Calends, October CCCLXI

    TO: G-I

    For draft of citation for Papyrus Scroll with Metal Pendant.

    ________________________________________

    P.B.

    XI Ind, G-I III Calends, October CCCLXI

    TO: G-II

    I. Do not concur.

    II. Our currently fine relations with Tuscany would suffer and current delicate negotiations might be jeopardized if publicity were given to Captain Horatius' actions at this time.

    ________________________________________

    T.J.

    XII Ind, G-II VI November CCCLXI

    TO: G-I

    A report rated D-IV, partially verified, states that Lars Porsena is very sensitive about the Horatius affair.

    ________________________________________

    E.T.

    XIIIth Ind, G-I X November CCCLXI

    TO: AG

    I. In view of information contained in preceding XI and XIII the endorsements, you will prepare immediate orders of Captain C. C. Horatius to one of our overseas stations (remote).

    II. His attention will be directed to paragraph XII, POM, which prohibits interviews or conversations with newsmen prior to arrival at final destination.

    L.T.

    ________________________________________

     

    Rome II Calends, I April CCCLXII

    SUBJECT: Survey, Report of, Department of War

    TO: Captain Caius Caius Horatius, III Legion, V Phalanx, APO XIX, C/O Postmaster, Rome.

    I. Your statements concerning the loss of your shield and sword in the Tiber River of III March CCCLX have been carefully considered.

    II. It is admitted that you were briefly in action against certain unfriendly elements on that day. However, Sergeant Lartius and Corporal Herminius were in the same action and did not lose any government property.

    III. The Finance Officer has been directed to reduce your next pay by II-I/IV talents (I-III/IV talents cost on each sword, officers; III/IV talent cost of one each shield, M-II).

    IV. You are enjoined and admonished to pay strict attention to conservation of government funds and property. The budget must be balanced next year.

    H. MARCUS AURELIUS

    Lieutenant of Horse

    Survey Officer

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