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According to our esteemed Andrew Dalby the answer lies in the former (if my memory serves me correctly)
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In a couple of threads on here (most recently, the Plebian unrest thread) there's mention of corn as a staple grain. I was under the impression that corn was not introduced to Eurasia until after the Spaniards came to the Americas. Is this not true? Was another variety of corn known to Europe and/or Asia well before this?
To everybody else other than us Americans 'corn' is the common name for the kernel of any grain (wheat, barley, spelt, etc...) and is not to be confused with what we (only) call corn; i.e. maize.
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Absolutely!! I had never thought about it that way! Thanks for the insight.
You're welcome LW, obviously I hadn't thought about it that way either until now.
I guess a lot of us are so disconnected with the simple realities of agri-pastoral life to factor in such simple, plausible explainations.
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Revisiting this thread because something said to me in passing in regards to the current severe drought we're experiencing in Georgia (State). My Mother and Stepfather maintain a herd of about 30-40 head of cattle and one of the last times I was down at the farm we were discussing the impact of lack of rain on managing the heard
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Well etruscan is a separate, currently untranslatedis the language similar but the alphabet they used for reading and writing unique and therefore as yet undeciphered?
The notion of Etruscan being undeciphered & untranslated is incorrect. Since the alphabet they used was adopted from Euboean Greek, the phonetics of the language are known so Etruscan can be and has been 'read'. Tons of work has also been done in regards to not just reading the language but of course translating it to. The problem is that they left no great body of literature...
The only thing that Etruscan liguists have to work with is a corpus body woefully terse epigraphic inscriptions (monumental & funerary inscriptions + pottery discriptors) which is not satisfactory for understanding an entire language (same problem with Punic).
@ Doc, either I'm misinformed or perhaps you may want to double check but I think It's now somewhat accepted that Etruscan, Lemnian & Raetian perhaps belong to the same family; the proposed 'Tyrsenian' language group. Doesn't seem to be considered an isolate anymore.
What's really interesting is that in Dionysius of Halicarnassus and other ancient writers (Herodotus? Thucydides?) there are anecdotes in regards to 'Tyrrhenian Pelasgians' in and around Lemnos. (Perhaps even in an alternate telling of the Lemnian Women?)
It's quite a curiously out of place anecdote unless there really is some familial link there.
The new argument within the last 10 years is whether the Tyrsenian Group is pre-IE or an obscure branch of IE related to the Anatolian variants.
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From a bowl of ten olives more than five are left for next time; a single serving provides two dinners
Better be big olives... I personally can't make myself stop at 5! (Though calorie wise I should!)
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Down in Ostia where Pantagathus is preparing his ship to set sail for Massalia he converses with Triton and asks him to convey to the Earthshaker & Lord of the Sea not to unleash the Kraken on the God Consul's unfilial corpus... Triton says he'll try but one more scurrilous action by GO towards a devotee will make the request moot.
A runner appears bearing word from Nephele about the upcoming festival in some far off place called Insula Longa. Pantagathus beams with a giant smile and sends the runner back with a word of immense gratitude and thanks to Nephele for hiding the real cordax girls and replacing them with those *others*. Pantagathus muses over how GO knows that they are transvestites? Must have been quite a suprise!
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"The Corpus Vasorum Antiquorum is the oldest research project of the Union Acad
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Great review, Pan! And the basis for my book selection for my public library, as we appear to be woefully lacking in this subject area.
I'm ordering "the definitive modern source on the subject" first thing tomorrow morning when I'm at work, thanks to you!
-- Nephele
Thanks Nephele! (Very Belated...)
I left abruptly on the day this was posted last month and it got lost in the shuffle. I'm glad my review inspired you to enrich your public library with Lancel's work. It's a great one.
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Pantagathus, would you expand on 3,7, and 10?
To clarify, not the real mathmatical Perfect Numbers (6, 28, 496 and 8128) but the so called spiritual/theological ones:
"The four perfect numbers, 3,7,10, and 12, have for their product the remarkable number 2,520. It is the Least Common Multiple of the ten digits governing all numeration; and can, therefore, be divided by each of nine digits, without a remainder. It is the number of chronological perfection (7 x 360)." -
If my faulty ancient memory serves, Hannibal wasted 17 years trying to beat the Romans. It took Scipio two years to do the job properly.
Well actually if you end with Zama, it was just shy of 8 years...
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A team of archaeologists has discovered a huge ancient gold processing centre and a graveyard along the River Nile in northern Sudan.
They were part of the 4,000-year-old Kush, or Nubian, kingdom.
The scholars say the finds show the empire was much bigger than previously thought and rivalled ancient Egypt.
The archaeologists are racing to dig up the Hosh el-Geruf area, some 225 miles from the capital, Khartoum, before the Merowe dam floods the area next year.
The dam is due to create a lake 100 miles long and two miles wide, forcing some 50,000 people from their homes.
Tribute
"Nubia was renowned for its gold deposits," said Geoff Emberling, from the University of Chicago's Oriental Institute, according to National Geographic News.
"Even today, panning for gold is a traditional activity in the area," said his colleague, Bruce Williams.
Ancient Egypt conquered Kush some 3,000 years ago and took "hundreds, if not thousands, of pounds of gold each year" in tribute, Mr Emberling said.
The new discoveries show that ancient Kush extended for up to 750 miles along the River Nile.
Near the gold processing centre, the archaeologists found some 90 graves.
"We found one laughably tiny gold bead in the burials, but that was the only gold we found," Mr Emberling said.
"It seems certain that the gold was not used locally. Very likely the gold was for the benefit of the ruler and his circle in Kerma," 225 miles upstream from Hosh el-Geruf.
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12 is one of the 'perfect numbers' along with 3, 7, & 10.
One can find significance in the number 12 across many cultures, not just Rome.
- 12 'Great Gods' of Hellenic Society
- 12 signs of the Zodiac... (Melqart's battles against them)
- Hercules' 12 labors
- 12 Desciples
- Shia Islam awaits the 12th Imam
- a dozen (12)
- a gross (12 x 12)
- the end of childhood and beginning stages of entry into adulthood (in many ancient cultures)
"In ancient India the symbolic significance of the number 12 is probably that of the restoration of dharma or the expiation of guilt." - John Spellman
- 12 'Great Gods' of Hellenic Society
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ROME (Reuters) - A man was arrested before dawn on Wednesday as he drove his Toyota Celica down the Spanish steps, one of Rome's most popular tourist spots where visitors are usually banned from drinking and singing, let alone driving.
Photographs showed police surrounding the sports car as it neared the bottom of the sweeping 18th-century staircase, almost reaching the Piazza di Spagna.
Police told Italian media the driver was a 24-year-old man of Colombian origin who had turned left at the Trinita dei Monti church at the top of the staircase, apparently mistaking the steps for a road.
He was found to be twice above the legal limit for alcohol, media reported
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A short article from IHT.
"other archaeologists, while praising his excavations, were skeptical of his interpretations."
That about sums it up for me. Evidence of a wall in the right place, dated to the right time is not proof of the twins existence. Maybe if a stone was found with an archaic latin inscription saying "I was built by Romulus"...
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Awesome Nephele,
It is a great topic and knew I had come across others instances not listed by Wiki but didn't have the time to go back and pour through Livy, Dionysius etc to find them.
Thanks
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Well congrats Flavia, as soon as my neice is old enough I'll attempt to get her hooked (same with my own kids once I have them!)
Perhaps us poor Americans will be able to buy the DVD set when it comes available to us.
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Wasn't the origin of the Minotaur due to a coupling of a bull and a queen? And that bull wasn't even a disguised god!
I've heard of the the myth being reenacted in Tijuana...
except with a donkey...
Good one NepheleThe only explanation I can think of for Nephele's horse-children being the result, must have been due to her and Ixion having had a stable relationship.
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If he wants to catch girls, maybe he should try appearing as a musclebound shirtless man in his twenties.
Cause perhaps back then a few older men might have beaten the girls to your callow, shiny little bohunk...
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You know, back in the old days, I really had a way with the ladies. Back then, if I wanted to pick up a woman, all I had to do was approach her in my aspect as a bull or swan, and she'd be all mine, helpless to resist. The move was pure gold. It never failed
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Happy Birthday DF!
Hope this proves to be a great one!
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Is there a UNRV addicts forum?
We offer support for your addiction via the addiction itself. It's a new form of self sustaining, self help...
Welcome Dr. Matyszak, I for one am honored that you are enjoying yourself here so much!
Corn
in Romana Humanitas
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I believe that in most cases the answer is an unequivocal 'yes'.
{Also, I remember from my North American archaeology class in college that it's widespread adoption as the staple crop in North America coincided with a severe decline in the dental health of skeletal remains in the corresponding archaeological record... Hmmmm, high fructose corn syrup anyone?}