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  1. However, having had another little think about all this, I have to take my hat off to the ancients who worshipped various sun 'gods'. Surely they had it right? The sun gave us life on this planet; the sun will eventually take it away again (if other things don't interfere beforehand). Blessed be the name of the sun. There's no arguing with its physical force in the development of life on this planet. We owe it everything.

    Bingo

     

    But it doesn't stop there because strip away the handsome and lovely gods & goddesses and most polytheistic principles of worship celebrate and revere the various natural forces which are of course very diverse and naturally at odds with each other from time to time.

  2. Lemons were cultivated by summerians and were spread in the Med by the greeks after Alexander's campaign under the name persian apple. Or so a book about Summer says. It might be the citron AD mentions.

    I have usually seen commentaries equate the Citron to the Persian Apple. However, why am I also wanting to say that this has also been used as a nomeclature for peach/apricots?

  3. It made my day to learn that he and Joe Heller were friends... (makes sense though) Something Happened is one of the best American novels of all time.

    Interesting enough, I found a 1974 NYT Book Review article on Joseph Heller's Something Happened by none other than Vonnegut...

     

    ..."Something Happened," if swallowed, could become the dominant myth about the middle- class veterans who came home from that war to become heads of nuclear families. The proposed myth has it that those families were pathetically vulnerable and suffocating. It says that the heads of them commonly took jobs which were vaguely dishonorable or at least stultifying, in order to make as much money as they could for their little families, and they used that money in futile attempts to buy safety and happiness. The proposed myth says that they lost their dignity and their will to live in the process.

     

    It says they are hideously tired now.

     

    To accept a new myth about ourselves is to simplify our memories--and to place our stamp of approval on what might become an epitaph for our era in the shorthand of history. This, in my opinion, is why critics often condemn our most significant books and poems and plays when they first appear, while praising feebler creations. The birth of a new myth fills them with primitive dread, for myths are so effective...

     

    Link is borked so I may post the MS Word file in my blog.

  4. No apologies needed Maladict, not offended in the least, that's why I said I was 'provoked' ;)

     

    My personal affinity for Greco-Roman polytheism is much more of a spiritual thing than religious per se.

     

    There is just something about having a give & take relationship with divinity that is so much more empowering to me as an individual than a unilateral relationship based on 'faith'.

     

    From my point of view, monotheism strikes me as the more obsolete approach to relating with divinity in our modern age, but that's a hard thing for me to explain.

     

    Regardless, I understand the core of your musings and am actually in agreement. I haven

  5. Maladict: I find the high count for 'Traditional Roman Religion' (5) versus the other polytheistic choice (2) a bit perplexing only because I would not classify my fellow Polytheists on the site (as I know them) as such. However, Ursus may be able to answer for himself a bit more eruditely.

     

    For myself, I'm a bit provoked by your post because your tone is rather disparaging and dismissive; did you mean it to be?

     

    It seems you think it perhaps 'silly' that a personage of modernity would/could find an affinity with these polytheistic ancient religions?

     

    If people currently practice them (regardless of their mode of worship) are they really "long gone"?

  6. Yes, it's odd that many Americans value the second admendment... I suppose America is just different.

    Why on Earth is it odd?

     

    You know why it will never go away? Because it is one of the most fundamental things that make Americans American. That is why it's #2!

     

    Damn right it's different from the rest of the world but it's supposed to be. Not many people have really tried hard to invade the United States proper now have they? Yes there are bound to be nut jobs who break the laws and violate other's rights but the 2nd is all about a government actually telling its people: "I TRUST YOU"

     

    The minute Americans loose sight of that simple truth, our noble experiment is on it's way out...

  7. Having satisfied one client and friend, Pantagathus again signals to his slave who acknowledges with a nod and ambles out through the portico. Intent on paying his respects to the host Pantagathus sees his friend Cato standing in front of the Augusta with a look of consternation on his face

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