Death

[roman wargamer]

a biblical belief of the original first century Christian on death.

 

 

[Primus Pilus]

How can a professing christian today avoided this Law of the Christian God?

 

How then a man can escape the 2nd death and eternal punishment in the lake of fire?

 

if no one in this day teach this biblical word of God. ( or doctrine )

 

I would tend to agree that anyone who considers themselves practicing a religion, particularly the rule laden monotheistic concepts, should follow the laws of their faith.

 

However all you did was lay out the concept of Judgement day which I think that most Christians seem to believe in. You didn't actually highlight a rule of the faith that Christians don't tend to conform to.

[roman wargamer]

[Primus Pilus]

[roman wargamer]

but nowhere does christian church today teaches this doctrine,

 

or the belief that men will be resurrected again.

 

the common doctrine is that people will be judge on the day of his death right away.

[Gaius Octavius]

but nowhere does christian church today teaches this doctrine,

 

or the belief that men will be resurrected again.

 

the common doctrine is that people will be judge on the day of his death right away.

 

In the good old U.S. of A, not only is ressurection taught, but also being re-born. Two up. Two down.

[Primus Pilus]

but nowhere does christian church today teaches this doctrine,

 

or the belief that men will be resurrected again.

 

the common doctrine is that people will be judge on the day of his death right away.

 

Hmm, I can vaguely recall in my younger days as a Lutheran church goer that the Day of Judgement was taught as a great single event in which all of humanity would be judged at once. Maybe the teaching has changed... or maybe its simply based on geographic/cultural preferences?

[Spurius]

The difference to me seems to be in the doctrine of second death versus hell. The second death is just that, dead with no ressurection...gone for eternity. Hell is eternal torment, still around but tormented.

 

So which is it, death or eternal torment for sinners?

Edited April 11, 2006 by Spurius

[roman wargamer]

Q? The difference to me seems to be in the doctrine of second death versus hell.

The second death is just that, dead with no ressurection...gone for eternity.

Hell is eternal torment, still around but tormented. Spurius

 

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The Second Death , after the Resurrection of All Men on the Judgment Day

 

 

[M. Porcius Cato]

all men will be resurrected ,

 

then will first group to arise will be given etenal life in the new heaven, for the old heaven is gone.

 

while after a thousand years, the second group to arise will be tormented forever in a new lake of fire.

 

Absurdity on stilts. Why not believe instead in a flying spaghetti monster? The case is at least as strong.

[Furius Venator]

But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerer, idolaters, and all the liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death

 

Oh dear. That's me for fiery brimstone on at least four counts...

 

Ho hum.

 

Cato: thanks for that link. 'Pastafarians'. Class. I might sign up. Will it save me from the fiery primstone do you think?

Edited April 19, 2006 by Furius Venator

[roman wargamer]

Absurdity on stilts. M. Porcius Cato

 

Oh dear. That's me... Furius Vanetor

 

 

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tell it to author of the Biblia.

 

for it is not my word ...

 

...it is clearly written in the Holy Bible of the christian and the word of their Lord God.

 

all can be read in the chapter of revelation.

[Furius Venator]

Roman my dear fellow, I wasn't having a dig at you. I'm sorry if you thought I was. My joke (such as it was) was at the expense of the author of Revalations, not you.

[FLavius Valerius Constantinus]

Look at it this way as I learned in my Scriptures class, the Revelations when written was meant solely as a comfort-giver for oppressed and persecuted Christians in the classical times. During the Medieval Age, people still prepared for the end of the world, but they realize that Jesus wasn't gonna come for a long time.

[Primus Pilus]

but they realize that Jesus wasn't gonna come for a long time.

 

How'd they know that? They must have skipped over me when they were passing out the pamphlets on this stuff