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  1. Catholic means universal.

    The oldest oficial church it's that of Armenia.

    Ortodox kept more of the original church while catholics were and are innovating things.

    Beside the supremacy of the pope there are other important practical differences between orthodox and catholic churches.

    The orthodox monks are not in religious orders, and ortodox priests are forced to be married. Catholics don't pray to icons and believe in purgatory.

    There are some churches called greco-catolic that are under the authority of the pope but keep most aspects of ortodoxy.

    This were created and fought by political reasons.

    For example most of Belarus was greco-catholic of bielorusian language while part of Lithuania in the Polish Union, but in the 1830's the russian tzars destroyed that church and forced them to russian ortodoxy.

    This attitude was continued by comunists so in 1948 in Romania the greco catholic church was forbidden until 1989.

    Ortodoxy it's not united like catholicism.In modern times each nation has her independent church led by a patriarch and a sinod.

    Always has been some difference between greeks and slavonic orthodox despite some medieval unity.

     

    Great job Kosmo. Catholic means universal, and Orthodox means straight line in Greek. The Catholics do the sign of the cross from top-bottom-right-left. The Orthodox do it top-bottom-left-right. The Orthodox church is extremely Conservative and never change their ways. The Catholics are more seceptible to change.

     

    There is two types of Orthodox: Oriental and Eastern. The Eastern are: Byzantium, Greek, Slavic, and Russian. Those are the main ones. For Oriental it is: Syrian, Antiochian, Armenian, and Coptic. The Easterners exiled a man by the name of Neasterios. He sought refuge in Egypt, and the Greeks thought we were listening to his beliefs. This was not true and it created a split in the church. For political reasons, no difference in religion. (Hence that is why the Byzantiums refused to help Egypt during Muslim invasion.)

     

    I'll tell you one thing though, I have been to a Salvic church and I see a direct correlation with the Oriental church. For example they still celebrate Christmas on January 7.

     

    Kosmo what do you mean by the oldest official church is Armenia? I thought the Alexandrian church was.

  2. I would not call the battle of Kadesh a great victory or even showing of Egyptian military superiority so saying Egypt had the upper hand I deem as incorrect.

     

    Well, the Hitites mustered their whole army and took young men out of their homes to fight. They took all abled bodied men from the countryside and made them fight. Egypt just had a small trained force. Also note that the Hitites called upon all their allies to help them out. This is one of the battles the Lower Egyptians, North Egypt, did not call upon the service of the African Nubians.

     

    I think Ramesses was a rahter hot headed young man he fell for a Hittite trap at Kadesh and had to hold out for reinforcments to arrive he became a hero for a tactical blunder.

     

    That's true, but that is only because of the false imformation two of his Syrian hostages gave him. The Ptah and the Setekh divisions were on the far side of the mountain. The Ra and Amon divisions were repelled by the Hitites, then Rameses regrouped the men and took back the camp. This battle was important as Egypt was crumbling and the Hitites and the Assyrians gaining an advantage. If he had not protected his divisions who knows what may have happened. The Egyptians were severely outnumbered, but still managed to get a win in the first known battle to use tactics.

     

    Later the Hitites would indeed destroy and capture many more Egyptians towns and cities. The sea people destroyed them, while they were unable to get through Egypt.

     

    He hastely married a Hittite Princess to seal an alliance with the Hittites to make safe provinces such as Syria and Palestine that is until the Hittite Kingdom collapsed in 1196 BC So I do not know how great a man he really was.

     

    Rameses the II, or Rameses the Great was not just known for military. He was known for his reformation of Egypt and his diplomatic moves. He was the pharaoh who kept many invaders out of Egypt, and made it a nation worthy of it's glory again. How great was he? Few conquerers in the world have the name great in their name. Alexander the Great and a few others. Julius Caeser and Hannibal can't say that.

     

    If you guys have heard the poem 'Ozymandias' you should know that it was inspired by Rameses. He was the greatest pharaoh who had ever lived and is worthy of his hame Rameses the Great. His presence was felt then, now, and many years in the future.

  3. All right! The Netherlands and Portugal are set to take off in a little bit. Hopefully we will get a good one, and the officiating will be better. ;)

     

    Is it me, or are all the analysts and reporters picking Portugal? Weird the Netherlands will win like they should have had in the Euro two years ago. Bad officiating beats what Van Nisterooy calls 'homers' any day.

     

    By the way did anyone see Beckam's goal against Ecuador? The curve is astonishing, it clears the wall, dips down, and finds the broad side of the net. Mine just curves and hits wide all the time. I hit it with a terrible spin.

     

    Anyways, if England plays a hard opponent and it is deadlocked at 0-0 or 1-1 be careful because give Beckam a penalty kick outside of the box and you will regret it.

     

    England has a balanced and marvelous team. Why the English fans are ansy is just weird. A solid defense and an explosive attack with a balanced midfield makes this team a power.

  4. The legion did not disappear at the end of the later periods of the Roman empire. They just had new faces than what was there a long time ago. They made modifications like any other army. You can train a German man to be just as good as a Roman man, in terms of legions. Celts and Germans poured into the Roman frontier to share in the civilization that Rome had, so they enlisted their troops.

     

    The Romans insisted on a Roman general running the army. The Persians were not a big issue to Rome, all they had were numbers. They were conscripts who had short daggers and nice clothes with no armour. The legions would have easily destroyed their ranks with no problems. The problems came from Visigoths, Huns, and Celts. After many years of defeats they banded together and took Rome.

  5. Maybe thats why Assyria eventually ravaged them...

     

    Actually, aside from the Hyskos dynasty they lost the majority of them. They could never fully take the Egyptians out of Palestine, Lebanon, and southern Syria. Most of the battles the Egyptians were outnumbered but they still won. They basically threw everything but the kitchen sink at them, but still maintained the lands mentioned above.

     

    When the Hittite 'barbarians' easily overtook the Assyrians they were not able to take over Egypt.

     

    By the way, Assyria concentrated their whole culture on military. They were a very militaristic culture. Unlike Egypt, that was their Achille's heel. Egypt was more of an agricultural, diplomatic, trading nation.

     

    Oh and Sea Peoples were not Phoenicians.

     

    Who are they? I know you know a lot about the Phoenecians.

  6. Even moving back to the final Bronze Age to your beloved Rameses the Great

     

    Yeah, he is my homeboy. ;) He's just behind Alexander the Great in my book.

     

    Egyptians were adopting Assyrian military tech & tactics...

     

    Well I agree to the technological achievements, like the ever so famous chariot, but not tactics.

     

    It depends on the time period. At one time Assyria had the upper hand and even ruled Egypt for a time. At other times the Egyptians had the upper hand, like in the battle of Kadesh. Also somewhere in history it talks about the 'sea people' Phoenecians attacking Egypt. They kept them out.

     

    Just depends on the time period. I'm just getting mine confused.

  7. I am 27% White Trash.

     

    The white trash in our blood will not keep you from becoming a doctor or a lawyer, but it will keep you from a good haircut and any sort of fashion sense.

     

    Ah, who needs 'em I could not answer half the questions. I'm only 15 years old. I wear my black brownish hair short, thank you very much. People at school call me 'white' so I'm not surprised. I like to call myself Hispanic/Mediterranian, but it doesen't work.

     

    See, Ursus was right the Romans do have more class then we do.

  8. The Romans were master munipulators, and knew who to deal with and how to deal with. They would ally with Germans if the Celts became to strong and vice-versa. In order to have a long lasting empire you have to deal with internal and external events.

     

    For example Caser was assassinated in his attempt to become dictator of Rome. Also Rome's alliance with Egypt agianst Assyria and the Hittite kingdom was a political and internal issue. You must deal with your own problems before you conquest others. If you just do things based on force then that is not really a civilized empire, just maurading bands.

  9. Egypt put lots of resistance to Assyria, the new kingdom of Babilon and Ahmenid Persia. They put up a stiff resistance to persians and they rebeled many times sometimes with support from Greece. The last major rebellion was crushed not long before Alexander came. He claimed to be the sun of the last pharaoh from the nubian dinasty.

    Egipt tradition of independence and excelent natural defenses made it a place were special care had to be taken by rulers until they were assimilated in the arab islamic world.

    They were not a shadow, but maybe the richest, most homogeous region of the world.

     

    Thanks for the great reply Kosmo, thanks for everyone who answered my question.

     

    The Egyptians and the Assyrians were very evenly matched. However the Egyptians won the major battles, and were able to keep the Assyrians out of Lebanon and Palestine.

     

    In one of the battles Rameses referred to the Assyrians as the 'feminine' people for their long hair. Of course like in colonial times, it was a regular thing to shave your head and wear a whig.

     

    Whenever a nation attempted to conquer Egypt they put up a sturdy wall of defense. However when it is in a den of invaders from Asia and Europe, you don't stand much of a chance.

  10. Well, the Swedes gave England a run for the money...good match overall. Germany is gonna get a handful in the Viking warriors.

     

    These English fans are amazing. Not only do they come out in full support in England they came to Germany taking the stands. I like how they are always making noise and never giving in to other crowds. They're just like the Steelers, fans everywhere and they travel well.

     

    I made the pick of Sweden and I am sticking to it. They are a resiliant bunch who just never give up. Germany has been playing great. With home advantage and a killer offense they will undoubtedly be the favorites. However the Viking defense is a massive wall and can repel the German attack for some time.

     

    If they just wait and play defensively they will lose. If they play agressively, like we've seen against England when they were losing, they will win. However I think they will win, they just have the will and the team to do the impossible.

  11. Well, first we have to define who are the Romans and where did they come from. Greece is out of the question because of the cultural and racial indifferences. They suggest that the Romans were Celts who had made a civilization based on Latin and Greek means.

     

    Who were the Romans ethnically? Maybe because they were Celts the Greeks saw them as 'barbarians.' We don't know but I don't think Germans, Celts, Illyrians, and North Africans did much to stop the greatness of Rome. It fell from leadesrship and massive armies that wanted to share in Roman life.

  12. Or maybe they wore red so they can be seen by their enemies. The British for example wore bright red letting the opposing army see them clearly. It is a gesture of, 'we are the most powerful nation in the world and look at us all you want.' Red was a color of power and authority so why Rome chose it, is no mystery.

     

    I think they did it so that everyone can see them and say, 'those are the Romans.' It would be intimidating to see a sea of red heading towards you unheralded.

     

    Again, just pointing out a few points.

  13. After installing Windows on my new MacBook Pro, I finally got a chance to play RTW to see what all the fuss was about. It's cool! I loved playing the Brutii and wiping the Julii off the map, though I do wish I could play the Senate and People of Rome instead. Marching on Rome like Sulla wasn't as fun as doing all those little Senate missions and watching my family rise up the cursus honorum.

     

    Hey, I am a Julii guy so don't make fun of them. I destroyed the Gauls and love destroying the Scipii and the Brutii. ;):)

     

    Does anyone know if playing SPQR is an option with the RTR mod?

     

    I don't know, but as you beat levels with certain factions more open up. For example once you finish with the Brutii you get more empires to play with. You can play with Carthage, Egypt, etc. However if you can play with Rome and Senate I don't know. Just keep shredding through the levels and see what happens.

     

    Also, can you run the RTR mod with the 1.3 patch?

     

    I'm sure you can, just check with the toal war site. I also thing the 6.0 mod runs with it.

  14. It's a good slide show but I find it a bit insulting to the Romans and the civilized world. It is saying that they were ethically and overall better citizens than us. Celts used things not accustomed to the Roman world, so they were considered barbaric. In actuality they were not barbaric, just misunderstood.

     

    However the video's attmept to make the Celts superior people to the Romans is just not right. They may not have been barabrians, but still nothing comapred to the Mediterranian world. They could not make large cities and were unable to make structures, tactics, and learning institutions.

     

    Acredit the Celts in many ways and if they united who knows what may have happened. They may have repelled the Roman attacks. However they were not like Rome that can come together under one ruler and make a strong unitary army. That is why Rome was just better than the Celts.

     

    Indeed, they were intelligent and strong people. Still Rome was stronger and knew how to win a victory, exploit it, and do whatever necessary to do what is right for her empire.

     

    Just my opinion.

  15. The worst loss of the World Cup came today, during Ukraine vs Spain. They got four goals including the first penalty kick of the World Cup 2006. After the referee made bad call after bad call the Spanish were elated. Nothing was made to dampen their mood, after all the rain in Spain stays mainly on the plane.

     

    Also Tunisia and Suadi Arabia was very exciting. All though they probably won't advance they showed that they are teams that never give up.

     

    Ouch!

     

    Poland could not outlast Germany as they fell in the 93rd minute. It was probably the first true saddening loss, as now Poland is eliminated. In the final minutes Germany hit the crossbar twice! they even had a goal but the player was offside. The Polish fans thought, we held them off, then GOAL! Neuville scored on a beautiful feed from Ordukor. Germany is now undefeated and only has Ecuador left.

  16. Talk about Greek, I've just started learn the Ancient Greek. And right now its a complete mess(not really), but just so many damn new terms and charts to learn. And going from Latin to the Greek alphabet is such a huge confusion. Hardest Greek alphabets in my opinion to memorize and pronounce(in words) is xi and eta.

     

    Oh yeah no doubt about it, it is the first language to experiment with vowels. Beta is actually pronounced veeta and so on. Greek is much more difficult than Latin. Since Latin is much closer to English than Greek, I kind of picked it up easier. I don't know Latin but the vowels and pronunciations are much easier. Although all of Latin is from Greek. Whenever I saw someone spell a word in the SCRIPPS national spelling bee the etymology would go Greek to Latin.

     

    Before you start you should think of the reason why you want to learn Greek. The more you are motivated to learn a language, the quicker you'll learn and retain grammatical structures and vocabulary. You should ask yourself questions such as "Why do I want to learn the language?" , "Do I want to acquire a decent level of fluency or just a basic grasp of the language?" and so on. Once you know the answer to these questions it will be easier for you to plan a learning strategy. If you start learning a language just for the sake of it -or worse because you're forced to- it will take much more time and efforts, conversely if you have a strong motivation to learn the language you'll be able to achieve good results in a relatively short time.

     

    I have a never ending desire to learn Greek. Ever since a foreign language teacher retired you couldn't learn it anymore. All we have is French, Spanish, and German. I choose French and kept getting B's and C's because I had no desire to learn it. So I know what you mean I practice everyday and I can say the words easily. (A lot of my second cousins are Greek.)

  17. I agree with Kosmo. Perhaps somehow they traded with India but by no means with China. The Romans may have known the Indians through the Persians. Even Egypt had not established frequent trade routes with them. China was just a thing of imagination to Europe until Marco Polo's ventures in the 1100's.

  18. Egypt, Japan, Greece and USA are certainly not top 20 teams. It's perhaps debatable whether Turkey, Greece, Denmark and Nigeria are also.

     

    Egypt-won the African cup over Cote Divoire, and never lossed on their way.

     

    Turkey-nearly beat Brazil in the last World Cup, just could not hold on. Also the only team in history to lose their opening match, to Brazil, and advance.

     

    Denmark-you have me befudled. :P

     

    Nigeria-aside from Cameroon they used to be the most powerful team in Africa. Also elderly leadership make this team without a doubt dangerous.

     

    Although Nigeria should not be in front of Cameroon. Whenever they play, Cameroon wins.

     

    Also the Netherlands are completely overrated. They lost Davids and many others. I guess that just shows how good Van Nisterooy is.

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