Jump to content
UNRV Ancient Roman Empire Forums

caesar novus

Equites
  • Posts

    807
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    53

Everything posted by caesar novus

  1. Maybe there should be a book review section under the ET CETERA area for non Roman books. I'll chuck in a few more non roman comments here though. That was the way Paul Theroux enigmatically described the charge against him in one book. For some reason I feel moved to reduce my charges to match the writeup by somebody in wikipedia. It says he merely protected someone trying to overthrow his host government (still thrown out, as he should have been). And it is traditional for a reviewer to show engagement by nitpicking some facts in the book. I start by disputing his "Pacific" claim that kamakazes attacked pearl harbor, because they were invented later than 1941. Weirder was his comment that prez JFK was torpedoed in ww2 melanesia (starting his rise to fame rebounding from that). JFK was not a victim of normal warfare, but due to his inattention and unreadiness his idling tiny speedboat was expertly rammed by a huge, ungainly Japanese ship. The Kennedys are practically hometown saints for him probably, and for him to simply make up (probably unconsciously) this more heroic version sheds doubt on other of his quite meticulous scribblings. The Third Reich in Power [Audible Audio Edition] by Richard J. Evans (Author), Sean Pratt (Narrator) This book unexpectedly captured my attention as a bedtime listen sometimes. It covers the "peacetime" mid 1930s in sort of a socio-political view. Mostly about the radical changes imposed on work practices, such as for farmers or teachers. Really shocking changes, sometimes for populism reasons that remind you of today, or sometimes to establish totalitarianism. I wonder if the asian communists copied some of these approaches such as militarizing teachers and encouraging students to bully them for straying from party lines. One advantage is Pratt the audio narrator is a gem. Not the usual overly theatrical or else bored drone. Just engaging and matter-of-fact enough. Have you heard some of those Canadian TV documentaries spoiled by zombie narrators? Many documentaries take advantage of Canadian gov't subsidies, and apparently union rules promise narration jobs to bored or even contemptuous (of the Romans or whatever) drudges. Actually this is part of a trilogy. I originally listened to his "3rd reich at war" one in an attempt to get a more neutral view, with the allied accounts being prone to triumphalism. I didn't realize the author had an arguably non neutral background of marxist and feminist analyses. Anyway he started off with a forward saying it was not going to be comprehensive about the atrocities. But as I recall it was nothing but atrocities, especially the more unusual and chaotic ones... just too numbing to dwell on, and why Croatian ones unrelated to Germany or Italy? Then I listened to his "3rd reich comes to power" which was interesting because they trailblazed some of the techniques used today. Like hammering on the undecided demographic, and making ideologically unlikely concessions to entice micro slices. Today under 10% in the US are undecided, so much of the airtime is to address their idiosyncratic concerns. The 1930s saw heavy use of campaigning by airplane and radio, and so on... I forget if he covered much bullying by brownshirts... maybe I dozed off as not much of a politics person. But back to "3rd reich in power". I agree with the Guardian review http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2006/jan/01/historybooks.features that Evans makes a good case that the 3rd Reich was basically a movement in radical modernism rather than a regression to the old. It pretended to look to the past to entice certain demographics (catholic rituals and symbolism was considered effective and worth emulating). but it introduced an endless line of absolutely whacky "reforms". Many of them had to be retracted when they didn't work, because of the other great goal... getting the economy strong enough for war. Maybe the interest of this for me is how it shows trends recognizable today, taken to extremes that we will thankfully never have to experience. Today at the most extreme "conservatives" are associated with social authoritarianism and economic liberty. "Liberals" at most seek the reverse of social liberty and economic authoritarianism. The oddballs are "libertarians" wanting full liberty. But todays "progressive" movement embraced by Europe and just recently in the US leans to both social and economic authoritarianism, which is close in direction if not magnitude of pre-war 3rd reich as depicted in this book. P.S. for examples of dysfunctional "progressive" mandates, see "Science Left Behind: Feel-Good Fallacies and the Rise of the Anti-Scientific Left" by Alex Berezow http://www.booktv.org/Watch/13939/Science+Left+Behind+FeelGood+Fallacies+and+the+Rise+of+the+AntiScientific+Left.aspx Minor but provable examples are the biofuels mandate that pollute 300 times more, costs more, and starves the worlds poor. Another is the ban on disposable grocery bags whose substitute causes greater net environmental harm and sicken fellow consumers as you pickup their leftover decaying meat juices or dog fleas from their reusable bag deposits.
  2. I had restrained myself from posting the "inside story" from smithsonian magazine... http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/The-Inside-Story-of-the-Controversial-New-Text-About-Jesus-170177076.html?c=y&story=fullstory I dont actually know or care much about the veracity or ultimate meaning of such X-ianity questions, but just wanted to point out it potentially has a strong whiff of contemporary sociopolitics. Karen king is not a random professor but a self described heretical feminist advocate type of historian. Late in that article sez her studies were aimed at teaching us how to live today, which sounds like a bias alert. Here is a snippet from one of her classes...
  3. P.S. i have a plan to defuse these dutch independance tensions in belgium bloodlessly. It is inspired by the last minute idea some 1930s german had in putting a loud festive marching band in front of the line of sinister looking military vehicles coming to occupy austria (maybe done for west czech too)... who among the confused defenders dares to spoil an apparent party? I propose the belgian seperatists call in north korean female troops as mercenaries, marching to a catchy tune : There is probably some eu rule against injury to women, so there will be no resistance. Just my personal preference the result isnt yet another little country (there was a new balkan country split off recently of only about a few city blocks), but merge belgium into netherlands and luxemburg. I think belgium/lux was an artificial buffer state created to shield france/uk/netherlands long ago anyway.
  4. The swiss defense minister doesnt agree, and is stepping up war games to practice machine gunning down hordes of violent euro border-jumpers http://finance.yahoo.com/news/switzerland-prepares-army-euro-zone-131233903.html ... he says adjacent euro countries have downsized their military to the point where they cant even contain worst-case civil unrest. And I remember tony blair being very frustrated getting euro help in containing balkan violence. Of course the above doesnt allege conflict between any eu countries. But that might have been constructive. If the netherlands and luxemburg would attack and carve up the parts of belgium that speak their respective languages, probably all involved would be happier... and geography as a subject (minus belgium) could be taught in one minute less time for future students.
  5. Here is an organization that feeds the stray cats daily within those very ruins according to http://www.romancats.com/index_eng.php (then hit the OUR WORK tab). I dont think that is a good activity in the ruins even though they do seem to sterilize some. At least if they werent fed, some rat and pigeon eradication might be accomplished. I suggest someone sneak in and disguise an ultrasonic siren which drives away critters but is out of human hearing wavelengths.
  6. History still lives, it seems. I hope this means they stop feeding and encouraging stray cats from making that square romes biggest cat toilet... kitty urine must disolve marble. Or maybe the love of cats is what preserves that otherwise neglected square from something worse. I wonder if the spanish and italian research teams will be hit by austerity, and this was a last hurrah of results. Hope for the best...
  7. There is a well known way to do hadrians villa together with tivoli that i can dig up if needed. You take the subway to a major bus hub way to the north. From there get all onward tix and look for the lighted signs for departure gate and time for a bus that goes within maybe 7 blocks of hadrians. Learn the landmarks to look for to get off, and how to walk onward. Often you are reccomended a series of two busses to get closer, but that invites trouble or noshow. When you enter hadrians complex, i would circulate clockwise, but be sure to not miss the museum if it closes early. I went ccw and saw the spacious restful areas first, then couldnt appreciate the cluttered complex stuff at the end due to burnout. Well, i had a terrible flu at the time. There is a minor bus stop a couple blocks to the right of gate that can take you to tivoli. After a long wait i found it was being bypassed and walked to the main road bus stop, not where i came from, but on the direct aproach for tivoli. If you only seek the villa d'este and gardens, that is much lower priority on your time than hadrians. I cant remember why the train didnt look best for returning, but there is a fast bus. For easier shot at seating, join on the stop before rather than after the villa stop. And get off one stop early before the main terminal when most others get off early too... you will see a new major subway stop or endpoint there. Oh, i might spend your last sunday there walking the sites of appian way if you havent already. An annoying thing is they delay opening the appian gates to the quintillus complex til late, so go to the racetrack place which closes early. Also be careful about your last monday when so many sites close. If you end up with a slack day in rome, maybe get off at naples for a day on your return from sicily... there is always more to do there. Trains in sicily can be highly erratic... i remember seeing mine listing at 30 minutes, no HOURS late, all trains thrown into chaos due to ferry strike.
  8. That site does look a little superficial. What i have done in the past is just paste the quote into google, which is smart about finding variations instead of needing exact match. I just tried that with a favorite quote from that site, by merely holding my finger on the phrase, and androids dolphin browser presents me a button to web search for it. So given: "Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains." - Winston Churchill It returns among other things a wikipedia misquote site http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/List_of_misquotations which claims winston didn't invent it but repeated a common french observation, like from Georges Clemenceau (1841-1929): "Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head." And you may go on to find an actual context or pointer to it, of course all needing confirmation, but gives you a sometimes easy start.
  9. These writers surely have a much better understanding of the science than me. But i wonder if they are overlooking a key cultural effect that probably makes the male y chromosome flag wildly understate the diversity of a subjects background. According to my cartoon understanding of it all, the male y is only copied from his father. Females dont carry this chromosome, so the vast majority of his family tree, 99% or so, is totally unknowable in respect to y flags because some great great grandmother was in the chain. So only the fathers fathers fathers... y thingie can be tracked. But wasnt it common that the wife was brought in from outside areas to live with the male family? Thus only a chain of sons keep replicating y chromosomes from the same village, meanwhile those sons other genes suck up diversity via females from the other regions. I know some places have the reverse customs, or some dont have such customs, but i thought the bringing the female to males family was common or even the law that she had to be kidnapped from an enemy tribe for instance... often explained as a method to prevent inbreeding. The other approach with mitochrondrial dna is almost similar in tracing only one extreme branch of the female tree... all of which tracks only a tiny proportion if your ancestors. They hope it is an unbiased statistical sample, but it appears to me not. Just recently i was trying to calm down the hoopla about people trying to cash in on racial benefit programs by claiming their dna test proved 50% heritage in spite of appearing otherwise. The current technology cant approach that, can it?
  10. Roman themes seems to have almost entirely disappeared from popular culture here such as cable tv recently, but locally a huge inflatable roman colloseum has appeared for children at play. So maybe it is in stock for rent at your next function. I dont really know what is done inside because you cant see far inside the arches. There is central structure that could hold slides or a bouncy platform, or maybe a playground. It is sprawling and topped by a thracian warrior i think. Its very popular, but strange that parents cant watch the internal activity hardly at all
  11. Wow, the swedes and poles look insular on that venn diagram too. Swedes only mixed with north german and poles mixed a bit with czechs, in spite of the surrounding activity. We have to be careful because most of these flags come from mutations tens of thousands of years ago when they lived elsewhere i think. The italians only mixed with iberians... not with french, and the north italians only with portugal?! That might account for a slight arab look of south italians? I guess dna transfer is driven by choice of mates rather than a meeting of groups. But environment and epigenetics can cause subdifferentiation. Epigenetics is nondna, quick adapting inheritance written up quite well in wikipedia. The po valley coment brought to mind the book italian neighbors by tim parks, where he speculated their eternal winter fogs changed the nature and look of residents compared to nearby mountain italians. I know that decades of sun exposure can make someone look like a different type, and even occupation can do this. Many pilots carry that hawklike vigilant look from peering at distant features hour after hour. Maybe po residents carry the reverse effects after centuries of living in a white room.
  12. I am only in the middle of the book, but will try to give a more coherent snapshot here. The review link i posted above is hard to beat though, and indicates what i hadnt known... that it was widely received as a highpoint of the authors work and among travelwriters and among the general reading public. Paul Theroux
  13. Wow, here is a followup to the above tepid review. I think that med. book was botched by the writer, and the market may still be open for reflective account of travelling around romes onetime lake. I believe thiat book was a reluctant attempt to cash in on a sure-thing topic in order to pay for his divorce and the new apple of his eye. Contrast that to his previous book during the despair of collapsing marriage and hypochondria about cancer http://www.troyparfitt.com/536 . Wow again, i had Paul Theroux
  14. It might have been in the gothic hall of the history museum http://www.historiska.se/home/exhibitions/thegothichall/ or nearby. I believe among other things they had a medieval life size sculpted trio of the father, mother, and wife of jesus according to the english caption. They seemed to smile like celebrities saying... yeah, we're the jesus team; party on. I was puzzled, but rushed on to greener pastures. The upper floors of the army museum had wowed me, and raised my expectations for finding hidden gems. Mmm, the ethnic cafe in the ethnology museum was another serendipitous pleasure.
  15. There is a museum in stockholm with rooms and rooms of large colorful wooden statues and carvings from old churches, probably local. Some depict mary magdalene, and the english labels seemed to tell me that she or one of the other figures was the wife of jesus. The most striking thing was the females were shown as jolly and exuberant like at a party. I cant remember which of stockholms 70 or so museums this was in, except it was quite central yet obscure and unvisited. I didnt miss many of them on my multi day museum card.
  16. Many us museums accept free tickets for last saturday of sept, if printed out from smithsonian site below. Only one venue per person this year, so the site will show you the choices. http://www.smithsonianmag.com/museumday/ticket/
  17. That sounds like a romanticized spin. In an anthropology course, we studied the dry academic collections of every scrap of info at initial contact, like from the inobtrusive meanderings of trappers that didnt alter the culture yet. Iirc, the iroquois women specialized in the art of extreme torture of rival indian captives, with the goal of keeping them alive for many days of maximized suffering. The merciful death for the brave came at a late stage, like when all your skin was already peeled off.
  18. There is a lecture/demo tour on greek music that has maybe 18 stops to go, and you might want to look for it. I saw the first, but cannot see the rest of the itinerary, maybe because google is limiting search to my gps area. Or if you read greek, maybe consult the web page of Dr. Nikos Xanthoulis Former Principal Trumpet Player Greek National Opera and Associate Researcher in the Academy of Athens. His talk was nice, but his lyre playing drove part of his audience out the door. I thought of neros audiences who had to suffer that for many hours. He played hadrians favorite music, and i enjoyed the roman connection even if it was with a hellenophile gone astray. What i liked was the greek trumpet playing, and it was by a pro who has several classical albums out with modern trumpet. His described it a bit differently than http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salpinx and had an extremely long salpinx modeled after the one in boston museum (legally acquired, he kindly noted). To me it looked like a take apart blowgun vastly longer than head high, but reduceable shorter as depicted with amazon female warriors or down to nothing into briefcase size. The sound was amazing for such a narrow thing... very rich and professional.
  19. They have introduced a new course http://www.thegreatcourses.com/tgc/courses/course_detail.aspx?cid=3810 The Other Side of History: Daily Life in the Ancient World Professor Robert Garland, Colgate UniversityPh.D., University College London including not only Greek but Roman stuff like 23 Being Roman 24 Being a Roman Slave 25 Being a Roman Soldier 26 Being a Roman Woman 27 Being a Poor Roman 28 Being a Rich Roman 29 Being a Roman Celebrity 30 Being a Roman Criminal 31 Relaxing Roman Style 32 Practicing Roman Religion 33 Being Jewish under Roman Rule 34 Being Christian under Roman Rule As I type it shows a high price, even with 70% reduction. Priority code 62906 may increase it to 75%. Unfortunately I had a 90% one that expired. Maybe have your library order one. I suppose this will have a lot of utopian victimology whining. Just remember to compare life of the poor in vs out of Roman realm... no worse being inside Rome and at least you have aspirational examples of success to savor.
  20. The Pillars of Hercules: A Grand Tour of the Mediterranean ...a travelogue written by the American travel writer and novelist Paul Theroux, published 1995... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pillars_of_Hercules_(book) Somehow i had missed this account of journeying around the ex roman empire's lake by this famously grumpy writer. Better known for detailing the indignities and inspirations of long third world journeys, he promised to fill in some rather more civilized areas i had missed. He did and i'm glad i read it, and i recommend it with some reservations: Except for being uncharacteristically thrilled by Venice and hungry for more of Roman Ephesus (neither of which he describes) he avoids monuments like the plague. His head is still a 1960's anti establishment protester (he was thrown out of the peace corps for trying to overthrow his host government), and ancient rome or egypt or many modern govts seem to only represent implacable opponents to utopia to him. It amused me how in albania he tried to patronize widespread apparent victims living in squalor, and asked what oppressive institution had vandalized their noble lives. They told them they did it themselves months ago to snub the regime, and were proud of it. Iirc they damaged a roman triumphal gate, as well as all businesses etc. Someplace else a person he berates with innuendo-coated questions hits the nail on the head complaining that he expects unrealistic utopia. He is quite dismissive and brief about ordinary spain, france, and greece, except for the edgier regions of corsica and cyprus. Of course he cant help but be charmed by italy, although only by a mishap did he later also visit its west coast and spared us a few words about its dazzle. And after surviving croatia under seige (he is oblivious to the roman palace in split) the trip gets all disjointed in time and space. By the way i recently read about unprecedented ww2 atrocities the croats did to the serbs(?) which probably inspired the carnage payback this author assumed was gratuitous. He next retraces and skips all around, in luxury and tramp cruise ships besides his usual train and bus but not airplane. Grouses about israel which sounded quite nice, and raves about a barren tunisian island which sounded like a prison. Avoids juicy nearby archeology in africa, and a war in algeria leaves him seeing less of north africa than i have. He only visits top writers in egypt and morroco since his brother translates them... little else of the region. Oh, he bums around syria with his usual ridicule of many folks he encounters, and interviews the richest family in istanbul. But somehow the account leads your appetite on... at least a negative view gives sharp focus vs a fuzzy sentimental whitewash. I now relive the spirit of the trip using mediterranean internet radio stations. From spanish flamenco to croatian folk music... actually the latter is quite delightful, and i regret not buying the cd of a group i saw playing in a dubrovnik folk museum.
  21. A great source for Sicily travel info is the local expert vagabonda in http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowForum-g187886-i343-Sicily.html such as whether a particular rural bus route is reliable or not. I wish i took their advice about favoring buses over unreliable trains there, although i did enjoy a very long walk to an archeo site which they advised me against. What do you mean you are limited by no car license... since when are northern Italian rules respected in Sicily? Heck, just rent and pilot a helicopter... or maybe a Vespa anyway Anyway you can benefit by locals ignoring the anti terrorist rules against no unlocked free wifi. The Norman mosaics are amazing... for them and other museums be prepared for multiple attempted visits... they will be unexpectedly closed at any given time. In Palermo avoid the gritty main streets in favor of the colorful meandering alleys which are more pedestrian friendly. View satellite photos of the place for hidden parks and villas. The botanical and English gardens are well known gems. Guzzle fresh squeezed blood orange juice and rose petal gelato. On the boot i only visited that armpit Bari - unfortunately not Lecce. I would be tempted to return via night ferry Palermo to Naples with its infinite wealth of Roman sites vs tired Greek ones in Sicily.... mmm, I had the best risotto in my life on that cheap ferry. You should enjoy this trip
  22. The next frontier of roman archeology surely must be on the moon. Material is regularly knocked off the moon and lands on the earth http://articles.cnn.com/2004-07-30/tech/meteorite.moonII_1_moon-rocks-meteorite-space-rock?_s=PM:TECH . If you don't think that path is reversible, google origin of the moon... most of the moon is thought to be knocked off parts of the earth. Who is up for the challenge? Let's apply for a grant...
  23. Ps, here is a link on syria archeo looting including a palmyra war damage thing you can click on. Syria freedom seekers have of course been left twisting in the wind by the useless un and timid west. Today russian warships arrive to consolidate the existing tyranny. Reminds me of the way a weak kennedy actually incited khrushchev to try to take over west berlin, until jfk learned to show backbone. New accounts suggest even the cuban missle crises was only meant to be a bargaining chip for west berlin. http://www.gadling.com/2012/06/06/destruction-looting-of-syrias-ancient-heritage-continues-repo/
  24. you teased us without revealing the runoff catchment theory. I hope they have considered wells into entrapped fossil water, which is so abundant in dry parts of africa and even the us. The norwegians may have a bias in hoping for some wiley sustainable technique that is supposed to shame us moderns. The opposite is often true, such as evidence of ecoside by early south american indian agriculture. May not take a deep well... i got stranded in the dessicated center of the sahara once due to noshow french tour leader. Water was widely abundant at or near the surface due to lush climate a jillion years ago. I subsisted on a bunch of dry powder lemonade mix i had brought, instead of food. I guess algeria has been massively pumping this ancient reservoir down, but some other factor could have led to disappearance of palmyra water table, such as a tilting of rockbed layers.
  25. First a diagnosis, then 2 possible solutions I suppose the trigger was Clintons little scandal at end of term. This allowed a rightward movement of GOP because they could worry less about losing formerly undecided centrists. Then it ping-pongs thru history with the ignored/alienated centrists next looking left which allows a more leftest DEM to win. Hopefully these swings dampen down when parties start thinking about long term success. But someone made a good case that when party nominations abandoned calculated backroom tactics for transparent democracy (not that long ago), nominations naturally become more populist and extremist. I am up to Thatcher and Reagan in a course http://www.thegreatcourses.com/tgc/courses/course_detail.aspx?cid=4812 Conservative Tradition, Taught By Professor Patrick N. Allitt, Ph.D., University of California, Berkeley, now Emory University. He seems to have no unbridled love for UK or USA conservatives (north British accent) yet said the genial Reagan softened the social side of his conservatism based on feedback of the whole country, unlike what's done today. For instance he stopped action on his pro family, anti-abortion agenda and even nominated a pro abortion supreme court person. Contrast that with divisive Bush court nominations (IIRC), or today's force feeding of the widely unloved Obam-care. He says Reagan had to stand firm on economic issues, as did the more combative Thatcher, because the US and especially UK were widely recognized to be in a self-inflicted economic death spiral. But I note that like Greece or Spain protests today, citizens who originally got outsized entitlements and protections by political means (rather than thru merit) will also try to remedy it by the same political means with disproportionate noise. So I see that as more of an artificial theatrical conflict rather than a real voter-backed one... witness Wisconsin voters recently going against the shrill press-backed entitlement sector. Another point by him is the US GOP has been a fragile combination of strange bedfellows - the libertarian conservatives and the cultural conservatives. When this coalition breaks down the party collapses for a number of years. That gets to my point where it can be a stretch for an individual to fit his square peg into a round party hole. But if the 2 parties evolve to demographics wisely, it can work great and reduce conflict. =================== I have a theory that modern left and right are means to the same end; they just have way different tolerance for unintended or perverse consequences vs pace. One side wants fast progress regardless of the friendly fire casualties - they will attempt patch ups later, or at least the carnage is for a sacred cause. Another side wants to pace progress as cautiously as it takes to avoid letting imperfect humans vandalize what is good and unpredictably fragile in their rush towards utopia. It isn't true that conservatives purely cling to the past; they may have been aghast at Adam Smith's ideas of free markets at first, but warmed up to it once shown it generally broke down the bad rather than the useful aspects of feudalism or whatever. Which takes me to my idea to consolidate these conflicting approaches. I can point to the Monte Carlo algorithm of optmizing things, which is provably excellant. I worked on a close rival approach and didn't learn the rather simple mathmatics of M.C. but I know the principles. First of all, we can throw out the extreme left and right position of drastic or no change. No change gets us no optimization. Drastic structured change is mathematically provable as grossly suboptimal for NP complete or NP hard problems, which doubtless characterizes life-goal types of problems. What works the best (recognizably world-class... at least a while back) was a sort of evolutionary approach. In a computer simulation you change things stepwise, but not strictly toward the goal because that gets you stuck at suboptimal. You must inject some randomness (temporarily backtracking away from the "good") and you must control the stepsize (disruption) in a certain pattern so that bad side effects can negate the move. This is well studied and understood, and leads to something close to optimal in a finite (but not short) period of time. I'm rusty in this area and maybe am abusing terminology, but I think it is a metaphor that could lead left and right to work together better and be reassured their different priorities won't be extinguished. Use such numbers to control rate and direction of law change, and viola? =================== Also I've been meaning to introduce a book/video on a similar synthesis of left and right instincts, but never got around to finishing it. A psychology guy wanted to write a book to explain to fellow intelligensia how the right may appear ghastly, but perhaps meant well. He studied traditional (conservative) India, fell in love with it, and came up with a universal spectrum of values that were mostly shared by right and left, but a few prioritized different or ignored. If the left and right can just realize each side is innocently blind to the most cherished issue of the other side, rather than knowingly despising those issues... at least both sides can start respecting each other rather than hating, and maybe try to not vandalize (if not satisfy) the overlooked issues. http://www.booktv.org/Watch/13277/The+Righteous+Mind+Why+Good+People+Are+Divided+by+Politics+and+Religion.aspx "The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion" by Jonathan Haidt
×
×
  • Create New...