guy Posted September 26, 2025 Report Share Posted September 26, 2025 (edited) Although this is an older story, I found it fascinating. A ceramic bowl, which was thought to be the earliest nonbiblical reference to Christ, was found in Alexandria, Egypt, in 2008 during underwater excavations. The bowl dates to the first century AD. Inscribed on the cup is “DIA CHRSTOU O GOISTAIS” “Through Christ the magician/chanter.” Here are some alternative interpretations: Quote Other experts point out that Christou may actually be Chrestou, meaning “good” or “kind” in Greek, which would not necessarily refer to Jesus. The accompanying word Goistais could mean “magician” or “enchanter,” linking the inscription to oracular or magical rituals common in Alexandria. Quote Classical scholars such as Bert Smith and Klaus Hallof suggest that the inscription could be linked to a figure named Chrestos or to local cults, possibly even referencing deities such as Hermes, Athena, or Isis. Others argue the bowl might have been used for preparing ointments, with diakhristos referring to salve rather than the biblical Christ. https://arkeonews.net/2000‑year‑old-jesus-cup-unearthed-in-alexandria-could-it-be-the-earliest-material-reference-to-christ/ The earliest known nonbiblical reference to Jesus comes from the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, who wrote around 93–94 AD in his work Antiquities of the Jews. In Book 18, Chapter 3, he presents a passage called the Testimonium Flavianum, which describes Jesus as: “a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man… He was one who performed surprising deeds and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly… He was the Christ…” However, this passage remains controversial. Most scholars agree that Christian scribes later edited it, though many believe it retains an authentic core written by Josephus himself. Another early reference comes from Tacitus, a Roman historian, who wrote around 116 AD in his Annals. He mentions: “Christus, from whom the name [Christian] had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus…” Tacitus was hostile to Christianity, which makes his account especially valuable as an independent Roman source. There is also a possible reference from Thallus, a historian writing around 52 AD, who reportedly mentioned the darkness at Jesus’ crucifixion. His works are lost, but later writers like Julius Africanus cite him. So, while Josephus is often cited as the earliest surviving non-Christian reference, Thallus might have been earlier—though only indirectly preserved. Edited September 26, 2025 by guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispina Posted September 27, 2025 Report Share Posted September 27, 2025 Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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