Gaius Octavius

Pshaw , we civilized folk used snuff

I would think that if the Frank theory were so, then the Italic languages and 'dialects' of today would contain many more words rooted in these alien languages (those of the East, in particular). Much of the food would also be traceable to the North and East. (As is the case with Sicily today, due to the later Arab invasion.) The architecture would also reflect the tastes of these foriegners, (excepting Greeks here). Christianity was adoped by the peoples of the Empire, but it cannot be shown that it was as a result of racial or ethnic admixture. I think that Virgil's post is telling.

Perhaps, the rest of the world should read my monologue: "On The Rudiments of Elementary Bad Manners"; Red Hook Press, 1957. :2guns:

DoL, when you get the cuss words, please pass them on. Isn't oc the word for 'yes' in southern France?

Spurius, are you the CENSORED who slashed the insides of my tires? Did you win?

Spaghetti Aglio e Olio (Spaghetti Garlic and Oil) Prepare the wine the night before: Put some cooked chestnuts and pinoli or chopped walnuts in a large glass. Add some sliced apples, peaches and orange or tangerine segments. Cover with Cream soda or Pepsi (Coke, only if you must - too sweet.) Top off with a 'jug wine' (D__o Red, as it is known in Brooklyn), burgandy or barberone. Put in fridge and let it 'breathe' and marinate till ready to drink. All this to taste. Spaghetti: Extra Virgin olive oil. 5 or 6 cloves of garlic, chopped. 1/2 half onion, chopped. 6 anchovies (packed in oil). Red pepper flakes. Dried oregano. Black pepper. Sun dried tomatoes, chopped (packed in oil). Pinoli and/or chopped walnuts. 1 lb spaghetti (or whatever). While the macaroni is being prepared, heat the oil over a medium flame. Add the onions and garlic and cook until soft. Add the anchovies, tomatoes, oregano and red and black pepper. Cook until anchovies dissolve. Add nuts. (All these, to suit your taste.) Cook macaroni 'al dente'. Drain well and add to frying pan. Toss to coat and thoroughly combine. If necesary, add more olive oil. (If you would like to add some fresh chopped parsley, or anything else, please do.) Serve immediately, topped with a generous amount of grated Parmesan or Locatelli or Romano cheese. Above all, don't forget to serve the wine! It's OK to eat the marinated goodies in the wine. It is recommended. :wub: Or, to make it easier and quicker, just use the oil and garlic. For dessert, a canoli or better yet a sfogliatelle (or both).

Good grief! What a bunch of criminals, vagabonds and winos

VIVA ESPANA

What a list! So many of the items seem to contradict each other at least once if not a couple of times, i.e., individualism vs communism; Christianity vs polytheism. But I am at a loss with 'hypothermia' and 'impotence'. And of course, the obligatory 'Jewish' influence. And those Greeks! Looks like a list of allusions made up for A. Hitler & Co.

From White Trash (excepting Pertinax, of course) to mullets to baldies! Sic Transit Gloria Mundi. :bag:

From: The Education of Julius Caesar - A Biography, A Reconstruction; Arthur D Kahn; Schocken Books, 1986, p. 87. From a speech Sallust assigns to Macer: "....Macer chided the commons for expressing gratitude at the recent 'hastily enacted law for the distribution of grain...by which they have valued all your liberties at five pecks [monthly] per man, an allowance actually not much greater than the rations of a prison.' " " The most profound crisis in the commonwealth, according to Macer, concerned 'the country people, who are cut down in the quarrels of the great and sent to the provinces [as legionaries] as gifts to the magistrates. Thus they fight and conquer for the benefit of a few, but whatever happens, the commons are treated as vanquished.' Dispatched to distant countries for campaigns of indefinite duration, the peasants won booty and hoardes of slaves for their commanders, while their families at home were often driven out of their farmsteads by usurers or powerful neighbors. With their loot aristocrats displaced Italian peasants with slave gangs of peasants transported as captives from frontier lands. (In the decades following upon the Sullan expulsions and resettlements, one half of the rural population of Italy would leave the countryside, their lands appropriated for vineyards, olive groves, orchards and herds of cattle and sheep. It was this momentus social upheaval accompanied, of course, by unimaginable suffering, scarcely alluded to by public figures or historians of the day, that underlay the tensions that would ultimately lead, in Caesar's final years, to the overthrow of the oligarchic Republic.)" Comment: The finely tuned rhetoric of the oligarchs belies the facts of the time. Nonetheless, as it was at one Ending, it was at the last Ending and has ever since been so. One set of aristocrats replaces the prior one. The commons always seem to lose out in the end.

Did it taste good? Try a red mullet next time out.

19% Trash; 15% Metrosexual (Whatever that is.); 36% A__hole/B__ch. 100% Roman!

This may help a bit. From: "Manual of Foreign Languages"; Geo. F. von Ostermann; Central Book Co.,Inc., 1952. "This language sharply reflects the history of the Roumanian people. The basis of the language is a vulgate Latin, introduced by Trajans's legions when they occupied Dacia 101-107 A.D. In the sixth century, however, the Slavs and the Bulgarians made conquests, and their influence bore heavily on the language, altering sounds, introducing novel forms, and in other ways affecting the composition and derivation of the vocabulary; thus the Latin dis- was displaced by the Slavonic ragu-, the nagative in- by the corresponding Slavonic ne-, etc. In later years, the Albanians, Byzantines, Hungarians, Poles, and Turks, people with whom they lived on friendly or hostile terms also impregnated the language with word forms from their own stock, so that the language acquired characteristics that distinguish it from the other Romance languages. The orthography also has undergone a number of successive changes beginning with 1866, when the Roumanian Academy was first established. Other radical changes were made in 1869, 1879, 1881, 1895, and finally in 1904, the Academy abandoned the etymological principles based on Latin orthography and adopted the phonetic principles in use today."

U.S. vs Italy tomorrow. Go Yankees!

Hope that things change for the better and you don't have to go. God be with you.

Sono Porci Questi Romani SPQR

Many apologies, P.P., I misunderstood your post. :notworthy:

Any chance of getting that in Latin?

Good Pertinax: At least two Romans are awaiting for your composition in re 'that'. These two are also awaiting your dipping your dainty toes into the latest bit on 'Languages, etc'. Your servant, sirrah, Dikke Benen

NATURALLY! I'm saddened even by the notion that many people probably think the park is named for Mr. Spock and can't figure out the relationship between Leonard Nimoy and the statue. He was a Vulcan on that long running Star Wars type program on TV. Misshagin, get with it. :fish: Star Trek!

Verboten te roken!

Ik hou van jou. De grootjes, Oure