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Unfortunately, the system is still infected.
What antivirus are you using? Norton for instance classifies certain "data miners" and spywares as potential viral infections so running a scan with Adware won't be enough in that case, you will still get the "infection" message. (lol I'm reinventing the English language ..). If so posting the name of the file detected as a potential threat might be more useful, that way I could tell you exactly what type of threat you're dealing with and hopefully an appropriate measure.
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uhm, any chance on staying on topic?
Of course, I'm from a boot-shaped peninsula known mostly for pasta, pizza and mafia. lol.
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This is a very interesting thread!The only information I had before was that the "Ligurian" language was non-indo-european. It is true that many people tend to get confused with the Celts..
There are so many theories being discussed on the subject, I think the analysis of genetic data might be very useful in this case too =). Once again, brilliant thread.
It would be nice to discuss the theories but I'm dealing with applied philology at the moment..
Suum cuique pulchrum est, I guess =|
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I listen to so many different things..music is a very important part of my life. I like and listen to many of the bands previously mentioned (Depeche Mode, The Cure, Joy Division and why not, also The Cult, Simple Minds and many other artists from the 80s =)) as well as 70s hard rock like 'Sabbath, Led Zeppelin', Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, The Damned etc..I also listen to classics such as the Rolling Stones, The Who, Dire Straits..and -dulcis in fundo-, heavy metal, trip hop and classical. =)
I'm interested to hear what kind of music people are listening to at this very moment?-Now playing: Aerosmith - Dream on
What is travelling through their stereos/earphones/walkmans/discmans/ipods?I usually listen to a lot of relatively unknown bands..I won't list all of them because it would take me hours, the main are: - Apocalyptica (instrumental tracks only), The Gathering, Kemopetrol, Akira Yamaoka (Japanese composer) +a lot of Italian artists..
KatatoniaRelieving, someone else listens to doom metal!
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I guess I'm late but..happy birthday! =)
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Nevertheless the Guilotine was made-up by a doctor. This thought is dreadful in itself.
Oui, Monsieur Guillotin. Actually he invented it because he thought it was a more "human" way of executing people..err..
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How much of English do you think is related or derived from Latin?
I think 80% is exaggerate if we consider that many of the latin-derived words have a Germanic counterpart. 50% is probably more realistic. The main contributions (in addition to classic latin) were Church latin and French (blame William the Conqueror =)). The majority of the loanwords from latin are technical, the Germanic words are connected to everyday life, but as I said before there are contexts in which the speaker can choose between latin and germanic words that practically have the same significance, although the latin alternative is often the more
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True, the Romans never really managed to romanize Britain..the first form of coin was probably the Saxon "sceatta"(sp.?), a couple of centuries after the Romans left.
Even before the raids of the Angles, Saxons and Jutes most of the Romano-British had already stopped continuity with the roman culture, it's not surprising to see they rapidly came back to a barbarian way of life.
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and then you better make some photos of it
cheers
viggen
Yes, absolutely, if I do go I'll be glad to contribute photos of the findings =)
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At lago di Bracciano??I didn't even know about the village..very interesting!I need to go to the Pigorini, I haven't been there for ages, shame on me
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I saw it last night and really enjoyed it.
An Australian film, the screen play is written by Nick Cave, the photography was awesome, and while a very violent little film, I thought it justified.
It's set in the late 19th Century in a nowhere outback Australian town.
Nick Cave? Interesting, I'll probably see it when it comes out, although I'll have to pay attention to the title..most of the time the translations we get have nothing to do with the original title so when the film comes out you think it's a different one and miss it..lol that happened to me a couple of times
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Even worse, it seems to be largely forgotten among many Europeans who can't seem to find a single thing to redeem America from its "evil imperialist warmonger" stereotype.
You just created another stereotype here, "The forgetful anti-american European"
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I'm a bit late..
A great and terrible day....True, a terrible day also in terms of human lives loss but surely a day Britain can be proud of =)
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It seems that -genetically speaking- an Etruscan had more in common with the Turks than with contemporary Italians, for example (except for the Tuscans, of course).
Hmm, as far as i know there were no Turkic people in todays Turkey during the time of the Etruscan Period...
regards
viggen
No, the analysis takes into consideration "actual"(modern) Turks (among with North Africans and several other populations that I don't remember, you have to go through the article to find them)
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Happy Birthday
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I read somewhere that the images you are seeing on Google earth are pre-recorded and not live.
I noticed! I realized it while looking for a piazza to which several buildings and fountains were added in the last few months and they were not showing up on the image. But Google Earth is still great, I just had a small tour of Sub-Saharian Africa, I wanted to see the villages..and the national geographic specials are always brilliant
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I chose Silentium because silence is such a rare thing. I think if people spoke less and thought more (or at least thought before speaking) things would be better. Hence the nickname.
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Silentium,
I'll try to put together a bibliography of sorts if you'd like. This hypothesis (linking the diaspora from Asia Minor to the 4th Millennia) isn't really found yet in academic circles... However, I guaranty that this isn't 'tin foil hat' assertions. As for the scientific conclusion between the genetic affinity with modern Turkish & North African populations I refer you here: The Etruscans: A Population Genetic Study (Beware... Thick with jargon!)
Really. modern, multidisciplined approachs are the only way to get to the bottom of old mysteries. Myth, ancient history, archaeology, geology, religion and liguistics are all needed to even come close to acceptable conclusions.
Hope this gives you more comfort in accepting my assertions.
Of course!Thanks for posting the link, I absolutely didn't know universities of Ferrara and Florence were behind the project. That was exactly what I was looking for, I went through the whole article (skipping the technical jargon hehe ) and I found it incredible. I'm aware that we can't take anything for granted and that there's a long way to go, but the fact that now we can say "the links between Etruscans and eastern Mediterranean regions were in part associated with genetic -and not only cultural- exchanges" is a huge step ahead =). It seems that -genetically speaking- an Etruscan had more in common with the Turks than with contemporary Italians, for example (except for the Tuscans, of course). Oh, and your sources (with particular reference to historical and archaeological ones) are reliable if used in support of the previously posted genetic analysis and are more or less the same mentioned in other researches on the subject I had read, probably with the sole addition of Myrsilus of Methymna. It was also nice to see that the article mentioned the different versions of Dionysus and Herodotus. At least now we know they might have been both wrong, although Herodotus was probably closer
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I too would like to know the ultimate origins of the Etruscans. If they came from Asia Minor perhaps there is some truth in the Aeneas myth.
Indeed. After all there's always a bit of truth behind every legend =)
Current Genetic Geneography seems to finally provide the connection between Asia Minor, The Pelasgians & the Etruscans. That connection is Y Chromosome haplogroup J2 (M172). The account that Herodotus told of their Lydian origins now seems to not be mutually exclusive with the Pelasgian origins of the Etruscans. People have just never looked far enough back.It appears now that ~ 4th Millennia BC there was a terrible drought in Asia Minor that sent those people scrambling for new lands. All of a sudden people the Vinca culture blossoms in the Balkins, the Nurghic culture appears in Sardina, Minoan civilization appears and so do the proto-Etruscans. All have similar cult iconography and mythic themes.
Now, J2 (M172) is found in the same frequency in all these areas with the ground zero being Asia Minor.
How do you connect the dots?
This is VERY interesting!Do you have any sources to have more in depth information? Like books (hopefully reliable ones) or anything else?
It's true, we tend to see things from a merely linguistic perspective and tend to analyse and take into consideration only written texts to prove connections, whereas maybe other sciences would be more helpful..
If this was confirmed a lot of things could be explained. =)
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I love Google Earth, it can get addictive..it's so detailed that it's almost scary =)
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Sorry if I'm being too direct but..why do you have Ada Wong in your signature?
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Sorry but I'm also a video gamer, I don't know why there aren't any other video gamers on this site.
Sorry if my post sounded wrong, I'm a gamer myself. Oh, and sorry for the off topic by the way.
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Yes, birthplace of Trajan and also Hadrian..I visited it last year, I toured Andalusia and stopped in Santiponce which is the nearby village. Half of Italica (vetus urbs, the older part) is basically "under" Santiponce, the villagers used most of the ancient roman buildings, rebuilt them and settled there. The nova urbs (which was built thanks to Hadrian) is visible, I did visit the amphiteatre and the various patrician buildings, impressive. But I'm not sure letting people wander freely in certain parts of the forum romanum would be a good idea..I think Italica and Roma are evidently two different realities. Besides, the most important places in the forum are open to the public. I'm sure when they're done excavating the vetus urbs things will be different for Italica too.
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Gilraen Ancal
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I was just really curious about Julius Caesar's conquest in Gual and also about Constantine, so I randomly searched the internet for good resources and happened to stumble upon this majestic site.
Sorry if I'm being too direct but..why do you have Ada Wong in your signature?
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Where Is Every One From?
in Renuntiatio et Consilium Comitiorum
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Hmm..that small city..yes, I have some vague reminescence anyway, that's the association most people do, let's face it: Italia=pasta [pizza, mafia, opera, random name here..] lol
This is a sort of "Circle of Scipions" =)