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  1. Before you start you should think of the reason why you want to learn Greek. The more you are motivated to learn a language, the quicker you'll learn and retain grammatical structures and vocabulary. You should ask yourself questions such as "Why do I want to learn the language?" , "Do I want to acquire a decent level of fluency or just a basic grasp of the language?" and so on. Once you know the answer to these questions it will be easier for you to plan a learning strategy. If you start learning a language just for the sake of it -or worse because you're forced to- it will take much more time and efforts, conversely if you have a strong motivation to learn the language you'll be able to achieve good results in a relatively short time.

     

    I would just like to know where to start and how to start.

    In my opinion it would be better to start with basic grammar (and just a bit of phonology) and later focus on vocabulary and more complex syntax. Once you're done with that -and if you want to take your language skills one step further- you can start learning idioms and pronunciation nuances.

    Bah, I'm a useless pedagogue anyway :bag:

  2. I've been studying english and french for 4 years, italian for 9 and my dream is to learn norwegian or swedish. Everyone loves languages here ^^

    Aren't you a native speaker of Italian? I took up some Finnish while in Finland, extremely beautiful but fifteen cases were a bit too much for my brain to handle :D. Having other languages to deal with didn't help either =|. Now Swedish would be easier, considering its Germanic roots.

     

    They would actually say 'lu pa'' and 'lu ca'' , some other exmaples would be the word 'fish' that would be (phonetically) 'puh-sh' instead of 'pesce' and instead of 'siedi' (sit) they would say (phonetically) 'ah-loo-gat-ee)

    I think dialetto abruzzese is one of the most diversified Italian dialects, each village seems to have its own code. Forms like "lu" and "lo" for example are probably the most widespread. Another variant of the definite article I've heard in a couple of villages not far from L'Aquila is [ju], apparently the lateral [l] turned into a semivowel [j] for some reason. Very interesting.

  3. Well, the most famous sights are the new and old city "Mala Strana" and "Stare Mesto" (in Stare Mesto you'll find the astronomical clock Viggen posted about earlier, with the statues of the apostles coming out of it, it lasts for a minute or so every hour). The Old Town square is fascinating, I can't tell what's so special about it but there's a certain charm about the place, same for Charles Bridge. Not far from there you'll find "Prague's little Venice", they take you around with gondolas and all that lol =)

     

    Another must see is the castle and of course S.Vitus' Cathedral (they will charge you for taking pictures/videos though..). Make sure you take a boat cruise along the Vtlava river, the view of the city from there is lovely, food on the boat is ok as well (strangely enough I didn't miss Italian food lol).

     

    I know you only have 3 days but you should definitely visit Karlovy Vary and Kutna Hora, first one is a thermal city in the middle of Boemia, the landscape is breathtaking, the second is a medieval town (part of the UNESCO world cultural and natural heritage..). I could go on for hours but I'd better stop here :lol:

     

    I couldn't resist, webcam here (from behind the Old Town square):

     

    http://dokumenty.prague-city.cz/camera/fullsize.jpg

  4. About the latin -ti (like in DIVITIAE") became -zi-, a sound that i think doesnt exist in english. Every italian, if he learns this, can read latin, even a child.

     

    Actually, the [dz] sound does exist in English, in borrowed words mostly: pizza being the prime example. It's not a hard affricate for English speakers to come up with...unlike the palatal liquid (gli), which is murderous on English speakers.

    I guess the same could be said of [r] :D I know someone who's lived here for years now and still can't pronounce it correctly.

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    Ciao Ginevra!

  5. If it was 2000 years ago would Berlusconi march on Rome? I think so! His dignitas demands it:) hehe have fun.

    dignitas? I'd call it (probitatis) simulatio. :rolleyes:

     

    Boy, Berlusconi sure wish that recount gives him a few extra thousand votes. Say, doesn't having the new guy mean its harder to have better diplomatic relations with the US. I heard he was gonna pull the Italian troops out of Iraq immediately(that sure isn't gonna make it better).

    the recount..LOL.

    Anyway the "new guy" won't be able to form a government in the short term because we need to have a new "Presidente della Repubblica", who formally appoints the Premier and the ministers. As to the rest, I don't think any of the things mentioned is likely to happen..

  6. I wasn't impressed with the british accents! They for some proper accents they need to get the yocals speaking, these folk all sounded like quite posh versions of the regional accent!

     

    Try this one http://www.collectbritain.co.uk/collections/dialects/

    I used it while working on a thesis I had to write, the interesting thing is some of the clips were recorded in the 50s, before the relative "linguistic unification" that took place in the last few decades (well, that is what some people claim anyway, I don't know since I'm not a native speaker). Of course there are also recent recordings, so that one can make an adiquate comparison and notice the linguistic changes that affected the dialects of certain areas through the years.

  7. Do you like the Smiths or Morrissey docoflove? I was thinking about adding a few 80s tunes to the list.

     

    They're kinda one and the same...in fact, I can't tell the difference, esp. since Johnny Marr usually played on Morrissey's solo tracks. Go fig.

     

    If we go 80s synth-pop or alternative/progressive/modern rock (depending on what it was called in your area), then I would suggest any of the following:

    The Cure

    New Order

    Joy Division

    The Smiths

    Morrissey

    The Clash (a bit of punk never hurt anyone, right?)

    Depeche Mode (before Violator)

    Erasure (less depressing, but definitely of the era...Chorus is a fav CD)

     

    And there are so many others...and I'm blanking...but that's a starter list.

     

    I would add the stone roses, the charlatans and new order to the list =) (Madchester?who said Madchester? :D )

    By the way, I got to listen to some samples off the new charlatans album "simpatico" (lol), it seems pretty good.

     

    Morrisey

    lol Mozza lives in Rome now

  8. Italian: here's the tricky part...that I know of, the majority of the Italian peninsula kept using Latin as a written form of communication much longer than the other Romance areas (Iberia, Gaul). I believe that we don't really get much until the 12th century (think Il Cantico del Fraile Sole), but I need to look that up. I'll get back to this. But, even assuming that 12th c. is the start of written Old Italian, the exact same conditions apply as for Spanish.

    As far as I remember Il cantico del frate sole (or Laudes Creaturarum) was composed in the XIII century. I believe there have been other literary compositions before that, the so called

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