G-Manicus

That it is, Primus. That it is. Ya know, one of the few times in my life I was able to use my (relative) knowledge of Rome for any sort of practical purpose was when we were downtown with a group of friends and we came upon the statue I mentioned above. (up until then, they all thought Cincinnati was the name of an Indian tribe )

Augusta: I think I can go word for word as well on GF I. Not sure what the allure is. Since I was a kid, the mafia always intrigued me. It's funny. My (Irish-American) family is obsessed with the Godfather to the point that my brother had my wife take a 100 question test on it prior to our wedding (ala "the Baltimore Colts test" in the movie 'Diner') or that's it, the wedding's off! She got an A- and the rest as they say is history. While our first child was not a masculine child, the next two were though. LOL! G

Game on!

Oh, crap! What do I do? I'm just a rookie! Is it only limited to coins?

I think I'm still on (or is it now off?) topic with this: HAGEN You were around the old timers who dreamed up how the Families should be organized, how they based it on the old Roman Legions, and called them 'Regimes'... with the 'Capos' and 'Soldiers,' and it worked. PENTANGELI Yeah, it worked. Those were great old days. We was like the Roman Empire. The Corleone family was like the Roman Empire. HAGEN (sadly) Yeah, it was once. They both puff on their cigars. Pentangeli lets himself be carried away by thoughts of old days of glory; Hagen thinks of other days too. HAGEN (very gently) The Roman Empire... when a plot against the Emperor failed, the plotters were always given a chance to let their families keep their fortunes. PENTANGELI Yeah, but only the rich guys. The little guys got knocked off. If they got arrested and executed, all their estate went to the Emperor. If they just went home and killed themselves, up front, nothing happened. HAGEN Yeah, that was a good break. A nice deal. Pentangeli looks at Hagen; he understands. PENTANGELI They went home and sat in a hot bath and opened their veins, and bled to death. Sometimes they gave a little party before they did it. Hagen throws away his cigar. Pentangeli puffs on his. HAGEN Don't worry about anything, Frankie Five-Angels. PENTANGELI Thanks, Tom. Thanks.

You are a man of obvious taste. And may your first child, be a masculine child. I think I should have been born an Italian. My 2 biggest areas of interest (Aside from sports) are ancient Rome and the Mafia. Instead I'm a wannabe.

*throws his red challenge flag* I would like to appeal the official's decision

I know! I know! (er, actually Google knew )

Agripinna the Elder?

I own a copy of this (yes, I got it cheap ). Found it fairly enjoyable. Peter O'Toole does a nice job in the lead. The scenery, costumes, etc., all looked pretty good I thought, although I'm an untrained eye. If you've exhausted your arsenal of Roman films, give it a whirl.

Meh, gun to my head ... I count myself in the anti-Sulla camp. Being a fan of Julius Caesar has probably colored my perception of him though. I tend to think the fall of the Republic was a good thing, and so from the standpoint that Sulla helped to enable it's downfall, I'm grateful.

Also of interest, the City of Cincinnati (where I live) is actually named for Cincinnatus, or rather The Society of Cincinnati which was was an organization established to honor George Washington and his decision (ala Cincinnatus) to voluntarily relinquish power. There's a nice statue of Cincinnatus located downtown here on the banks of the Ohio river:

Touche'! I am going to weigh in on the underlying case and state that the deal hinges on whether any consideration passed from Sticius to Titus. If so, I think it's fair to say a contract has been entered into and that Sticius has illegally acquired an asset in the form of the option to purchase the tract of land in question. My ruling is that the option to purchase shall now pass to Julianus and that fifty lashes shall be administered to Sticius no later than the 4th day of Sextilis! *bangs gavel*

Ah, now I've got it ... I just looked it up at IMDB. This was the UK name for it. It was repackaged in the US as "Battle for Rome." Ancient Rome: The Rise and Fall of an Empire Battle for Rome

I wonder in Rome if possession was IX / X'ths of the law?

"We report, you decide." - Fox News

Titus: Don't know if you're still looking or not, but came across the following this morning and thought I'd share with you ... Unions in the Ancient World G

This sounds familiar. I *think* I may have seen it last year. Was there an episode about Tiberius Gracchus?

Interesting. My only experience with him was his series on HBO which I thought was awful. I'll have to give his standup a look-see next time its on.

Personally, I'm more the Bill Engvall type myself (that dorkfish bit just kills me, and the one where he and his wife go hunting)

FYI ... TiVo alert: The Conquerors Caesar: Conqueror of Gaul. (2005) Saturday, 9/15/07 at 11am and again at 4pm on The History International Channel:

Thanks, guys! Much appreciated!

Faustus: Fascinating post. Thanks for the info. I love Breaking Away. One of the greatest sports movies ever. G

Thanks for the response Ingsoc, but that's not the Julia I'm referring to. The book, and Wikipedia, allege that that woman's sister (known as Julilla or Julia Minor) married Sulla. Can't find a record of that anywhere.

I recently began reading Colleen McCullough's 'Masters of Rome' series. I've tended to rely on Wikipedia for researching a lot of the Romans named in the book (I know, I know ... ) and for the most part, characters and events in the book seem to match up with the historical record. In the initial book however, "First Man of Rome," one of the key plot-lines involves the marriage of Sulla to Julius Caesar's aunt Julilla (aka Julia Minor). Sulla's Wikipedia entry indicates the following: I've googled this to no avail and can find no other reference anywhere to this marriage aside from this Wikipedia entry. Even the Julio-Claudian family tree entry only references Gaius Julius Caesar and Marcia of the Regii having 3 children (2 boys and Julia, wife of Marius). Is this just poetic license taken by the author to try and fill in some sort of historical gap? Or can anyone verify that this to be accepted historic fact/theory? Thanks in advance. G Ps - Tried the search engine here as well to see if it had been discussed, but didn't get any hits and so I apologize if I'm beating a dead horse (*resists urge to photoshop same* )