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But where will all the ghosts go when the lights on are? and more important will they return once the lights go out?

Roman 'army' knife and I thought having a Swiss Army Knife was something!!

I listened to a few of the tracks. I think I might have to invest in a cd:)

Yes I did read the book. Someone else recommended it earlier. A very vivid description of the events leading up to the battle. It seems to me that the Romans had maintained a delicate balance between immigration, assimilation, and Romanization, which had actually worked very well until then, when they took in more than they could handle, and their system was thrown out of order. I couldn't have put it better! In other words, they bit of more than they could chew

That is all just too gross.. barf!!!

thanks Andreas, another good site to read:)

what is netflex streaming video? Also when I saw the original Planet of the Apes in the theatre, there was audience participation. One of the best comments I remember coming from the back of the theatre was during the chase sequence by the mounted Apes---- They always get their man. As a Canadian, this was so funny.

Me too! me too. for some reason my dvd player now says for every dvd I plunk in there. no disc.????

Is that the recent BBC version of Robin Hood with a really hot Maid Marion who somehow knows Kung-fu? Or am i thinking of something else? nope this a 1983 series. http://www.robinofsherwood.net/

I will be watching Robin of Sherwood Set 1 (Seasons 1 and 2).. I got these for Christmas, Michael Praed is the most definitive Robin and drop dead gorgeous. I never got to watch all of the series, PBS didnt show all the episodes. Clannad did the music. another reason to watch it.

Mauricius Fabius and Titus Sabinus Flavius created The Year of Four Emperors Project at AncientWorlds. http://www.ancientworlds.net/aw/Thread/1110161 Their are posts from various members of AW, but they all follow the real time line of the actual year. I have enjoyed reading many of the posts.

Has anyone watched any the Battles BC series on this channel? http://www.history.com/video.do?name=Battl...tid=13969231001 I havent watched any 'graphic' type movies/documentaries before and I dont think I like them. There is to much romantization of battle sequences. The ones I saw seemed choreographed like the fight scenes from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon which were perfect in that movie. The blood spurts dramatically with every swipe of a blade. The hair flies behind each combatant, even Roman legionaires have flying long hair under their helmuts. (I didnt think legionairs had long hair) This theatricality aside, I really liked the discussion or analysis by the 3 military historians. It was like 2 different styles, spliced together. I will never be ready for films of this kind. One quote from the program - As Caesar said in the final battle of the siege.

There are several issues involved in the fall of the Western and and the continuation of the Eastern Roman Empire. They all play a part to varying degrees at different times. By the time of Adrianople, the physical city of Rome had lost its importance in the empire. The idea of Rome was what was important. Constantinople was now the most important city of the Empire. The Georgraphy of Europe and Asia Minor played role in the fall of the Western Empires as well. The lines of defense in the west were long, and sparsely defended. According to previous posts, the legion sizes were now smaller. The importance of Constantinople in relation to Rome played a major role in the placement of the bulk of the army . The physical governmental offices and staff were primarily located there as well. Caucasus Mountians created a physical barrier and the Parthians a buffer zone. The actual physical movements of various tribes either in an aggressive mode or on the run from other tribes behind them also played a role. The Huns approached from the east. Looking at the map of Europe, there was more room for the Barbarians (Goths, et al) to move west then south than directly south from the Hungarian plane. The push in Europe seems to have been east to west by successive tribes. One of many major faults of the government of Rome was corruption. Officials, military personal often pursued their own ends to the detriment of the empire and welfare of the people of the empire. The treaties with 'barbarians' were not honoured. This is just a few of the ideas swirling my head. Unlike others, I read, I swirl, and the ideas form. I apologize for not having concise references for my ideas. I have read Ward-Perkyns, his is a wonderful antedote to the current attitude of benevolent peaceful incursion of 'Barbarians' into the Western empire,. Also Goldsworthy, parts of Peter Heather, Alesandro Barbero's book, and others.

I still prefer to leave such question to the original author. I have left a message with J Lendering. Hopefull he will post here.

"The Sicarians were, to say the least, not deeply attached to the Jewish faith. The archaeologists also discovered the bodies of people who tried to flee from the violence." Thanks for the more direct link. -- Nephele Just out of curiousity how did they determine that these people were trying to flee from the violence?

Barca A book you might find interesting is, The Day of the Barbarians by Alessandro Barbero which discusses Adrianople. And as I have said in a post in another thread, it is like 'watching' a train wreck. There is enough pre-battle and post-battle informaton.

I enjoyed your review. And now I have to get my book from one the great neices. I knew I would like this book before I even bought it, so I bought a hardcover one. Wonderful book and worth many rereads.

I have read good things about this book.. it is on my wish list. ( should any one feel motivated..............lol)

Crispina - I finished "Wolves" right before the long weekend. Good story, but not great. Though I felt this book did a lot for the character development of Cato and Macro. I've got the next one on order. How do you like it so far? I started reading Manfredi's "The Last Legion" which, so far, focuses on the last Western Emperor - Romulus Augustus. From reading the historical notes (the book is fiction), it appears the author's going to tie this into Arthurian legend in Britain. So far, though, not as strong as Scarrow. J I think part of the problem with the 'The Last Legion' is the translation style. I loved this book and felt there was something left out when it was translated. and I never saw the movie.. I find if I have read the book, the movie is a disappointment. And life is too short for avoidable disappoints:)

Or to ignore current vicissitudes which don't seem to have changed in kind or tenor but only quantity, ferocity but at the same time creating distance between actual contact.

That may be the case in some instances. Walk into any typical bookstore in the US, and you'll be surrounded by the best-sellers, which could be novels, self-help books, political commentaries, etc. Classical works are to be found as well, but you really have to look for them. This may just be a reflection of the times. However, my experience in bookstores in Barcelona was that the classical texts were much more visible, and appeared to be more a part of mainstream culture. Just my own anecdotal observation or that each nation is in a different time or era of its development. or that history is considered by some to be baggage.

Yup, that would be like Greece asking for the Elgin Marbles, or Israel for the Holocaust cultural artifacts, or Guatemala for the Mayan codices, or Poland for its stolen art in Norway, or China for all those artifacts all around the world, or Romania for ... (Any candidates???) Or Romanian for the Ukrainian provinces it says were always its..

And yet to stand at the top of Masada and see the ruins and see the remains of the Roman camps and the ramp is awe inspiring. Dont know why.

what is the sequence of titles for the Eagle series. I 'need' to read a series in the order which they are written. I am considering starting this series. it was Crispina's quote : "GO! Leave the heads and go!" that piqued my interest. Occassionally I need to read a book that has that written. In balance in a way to Breem's book Eagle in the Snow.

this comment by M. Porcius Cato resonated with me. Yes, but the standard "Rome as Villain" show depicts at least one Good Roman. This is par for the course, and it reminds me of a racist with whom I was acquainted who told me--with no hint of irony-- "All N--'s ain't bad." I'm not asking for the Romans to be depicted as all-good, but for their assault on the Masada to be placed in its proper, historical context--i.e., an assault on a group of murderous religious fanatics who had conducted terrorist operations against innocent Jews. In this context, you can have as many or as few Good Romans as you'd like, but at least it becomes clear what was at stake in purging Judaea of these zealots. Instead, the series depicts these backward, religious fanatics as heroic martyrs--which they most certainly were not--rather than as committed enemies of peaceful civilization and Hellenic enlightenment. Not sure, in fact I am quite sure, this is not the thread for this, with regard to racist comments. A long time ago in the land called Oprah, they were having a discussiont on racism. Several people in the audience and one stage made the comment," if you are white by defiintion you are racist". Ophrah made no comment about this or effort to contradict this. Should I have expected her too? Not sure. But I stopped watching her at that point completely. I have heard and seen that sentiment in other venues occasionally (unfortunately I never made a note of them because I would stop reading/ listening). It is not that I am denying historical and modern evidence of racism. It is that it is more purvasive in all cultures/'races' than some people would have you believe and as such should be given voice. that is my rant.. the ability of people to have tunnel vision on subjects etc. feel free to move this post to a most appropriate thread or even delete it.