Greek kinds of democracy.
I have always had a problem with idea of Greece as the birthplace of democracy, maybe the idea yes.
But in Ancient Greece who had the freedom to vote, to actually Do..
not women, not slaves, not people from another city.
I am not sure who said this - romans did seem at that time to have equal opportunity intolerance.
You are born, live, die and sometimes the manner in which you do these things influence the future. There in lies the basis for many discussions with no resolutions.
I will continue admire some of the things of Roman Republic and Empire with the awareness that Ancient Rome was not perfect. But look at other ancient empires, Assyria, Egypt, Carthegians, etc etc.
not sure I will leave this post up.