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Thank you, and now I found the official public announcement below. http://www.beniculturali.it/mibac/opencms/...amp;pagename=52 Looking forward to special event announcements which will appear in the wrong end of Italy than my reservations... well, at least readers of this thread got a chance to get bargain reservations ahead of the hordes who may block everything up now. SPQR!

I guess that ties things together, especially for explaining an apparent exception in the American founders case. How was young George Washington with quite poor career prospects able to marry about the richest, smart in the EQ sense, and most beautiful catch in the land? The other founders also had their pick of the smart and beautiful, but were obviously upwardly-mobile ambitous young law students. There has been a lot of gushy praise of female genius spouses of the founders (like Abigail Adams) although the above referenced book apparently puts it in less P.C. and more human perspective. Well, Martha had previously landed one of the richest men in the land, who soon died and left a fortune. Now she could consider someone "fit and healthy", and young George Washington apparently had charisma like nobody else. Actually his later generalship was mostly a string of muddles and defeats, and he was mainly respected for radiating inspirational leadership rather than good decisions. Oh, he had persistance and later amazed the world at emulating Cincinnatus and giving up first presidency of the US rather than becoming a king - putting the ideas of the enlightenment into practice in a major country for the first time since republican Rome I reckon.

TRANSLATION HELP PLEASE!! http://www.unsabeniculturali.it/DIR_GEN_VA...rcolare_N.9.pdf For some reason I can't run this pdf memo into google pdf translation or even into text (can you?). *** IS IT SAYING APR 16-25 IS FOR SURE "CULTURE WEEK"? *** Is it saying final arrangements or announcements wait for March 16 (like the one time openings?). Normally this is announced by now in http://www.beniculturali.it/mibac/export/MiBAC/index.html

From my observations, there may be an element of truth to the video. There is a demographic of young women who find themselves with a lot of social power due to Poise, Brains, and Whatever (sort of 3 graces, but let's call it PBW) and wield it according to fashions and opportunities of the times. I have been pretty amazed to see military men in the US go from about the least targeted decades ago, to become highly targeted by PBW. When I was young, military men and their haircuts were very, very unfashionable to PBW women. Instead I found this PBW demographic in an elite engineering environment, of all places. The wives and girlfriends of phd engineers would use their connections to get secretarial jobs, and they were truely awesome and overqualified in every way. They just held the place together with brains and charm. Very soon everything switched around. The press (eg. womens magazines) declared that military haircuts were fashionable now, so these men were fair game for PBW. Secretarial jobs were eliminated from said engineering environment, and capable women rose up the normal meritocracy in other career tracks. Actually, younger PBW seem to gravitate to be non working spouses/gf of dashing military men. This smells like underachievement, but engineering may not be all that fun compared to fishing for fine DNA for your children. I anticipate skepticism on this point by those who haven't seen spouses greeting or saying farewell to the comings and goings of Navy ships or other troop movements, but the reality seems a surprising contrast to politically correct assumptions. I could make some pithy observations about how the PBW demographic appears to work differently in environments of Algeria, Egypt, and India where the stakes can seem even higher, but I didn't stay long enough to confirm impressions. Instead lets look at the "girls of the US founding fathers" http://www.amazon.com/Intimate-Lives-Found...s/dp/0061139122 . From a talk by the author, I gather the 1700's PBW flocked around emerging lawyers. Their love letters survive where the brainiest bombshells of the US colonies baited and torment the upcoming heros of the American revolution. Some of the stodgiest or sentimentalized founders either married or loved and lost the top "hotties" (his word, but actually including IQ and EQ) of the land. Reality can be amazing, and non-politically-correct explanations should not be prematurely ruled out.

Aha! It looks like the disappearing military side of the History Channel has re-emerged in a Military History channel http://military.history.com/global/listing...sp?NetwCode=MHC The good news is that Rome appears well represented, as well as other conflicts outside the 1900s. The bad news is the channel seems to specialize in quirky reruns in dated styles. I get it only in low def, and at weird times relative to the hour (they don't even keep to their posted tiimes). I think this is a way to recycle stuff that attracts few advertisers, who now flock to History documentaries about lumberjack or trucker rednecks. They just charge it to your cable bill, so be on the lookout for Rome stuff you might be paying for anyway. Advertising keeps TV accountable, I suppose. Now the free spending demographic apparently isn't interested in History any older than a few months ago ice-road or tree harvesting season. Similarly, the Travel channel has almost entirely excluded any travel content except for (on-the-road) Food. Imagine if they would spend one show a week on Roman archeology, but no... their demographic wants what goes in the mouth rather than the brain. Accountability leading to mediocrity isn't all bad; it also prevents excesses. I heard a good case made about why oil states like Russia, Venezuela, etc tend to have such bellicose gov'ts... with oil money gov'ts don't depend on taxation of their middle class, and therefore aren't accountable to the moderating influence of that population's interests.

Since this thread is living on, I can vouch for that Oxford book except for it's exclusion of sites of greater Rome, which are mandatory daytrips today. To include Tivoli, Ostia, etc you can also get "Rome and Environs: An Archaeological Guide" translated from famous scholar Filippo Coarelli http://www.amazon.com/Rome-Environs-Archae...i/dp/0520079612 At first glance it appears even drier with a wall of words and fewer diagrams. But the narrative is quite engaging and makes you feel like on a private tour with a personable expert. Not the typical omnicient pronouncements, but full of "must have been" and "probably" on the one hand and witty Latin quotes for the better known stuff. The archeo diagrams seem very well done except they seem to omit any recent landmarks, so in some cases you can't reference where the old stuff is in todays town (like downtown Tivoli as opposed to the Villa). Caveat: havent gotten past first glances yet.

Puzzling to this ignorant observer as well. I wonder if we have any independant confirmation of his repeated claims of fighting against overwhelming odds. He does seem to be a self-invented ambitious genius, and this came to his detriment in his innovative approaches ignoring/disrespecting traditions, which angered some. But unlike a Napoleon for example, he had a slow start... witness his bemoaning being an unknown at the same age when Alexander had slaughtered far and wide. I find the recent proposal by one of Italy's top cops intriguing, that Caesar intentionally exposed himself to the daggers of Brutus (sent his guards away when he was warned of the plot), based on his ambition to be remembered heroically rather than for a humiliating fatal illness he had supposedly picked up. Probably not at all accepted by the mainstream tho.

Maybe not the ideal topic to plunk this in, but I don't fully understand this announcement about Pompeii and google streets view anyway: http://www.beniculturali.it/mibac/export/M..._272501365.html http://maps.google.it/maps?f=q&source=...,245.17,,0,2.38

It sounded like the Hatian leader peeked into my post pointing out how modern centralization increases vulnerability to earthquakes, and he announced the Hatian capitol should become less dominant. I think it is wise when a country splinters off it's political capitol from it's economic capitol, like Washington DC from New York City, Brasilia from Sao Paulo. Think of the comprehensive catastrophe if a Rome, London, or Paris were hit. I wonder why so many earthquakes are in the news that are beyond the "Pacific ring of fire", which wikipedia quotes as "About 90% of the world's earthquakes and 80% of the world's largest earthquakes occur along the Ring of Fire. The next most seismic region (5

Still I would guess their (civilized yet vulnerable) living situation was more a statistical aberration across ancient space and time, and old fashioned situations were typically more forgiving with quakes. P.S. I hear modern Turkish Antioch is ripping most of their underground ancient ruins apart in particularly reckless development. IIRC vastly most quakes and vulcanism are around the Pacific rim (California, Alaska, Japan, Indonesia, etc), where ancient peoples typically lived in forgiving structures. The underlying mechanisms have recently been proven by their volcanos emitting vast amounts of a kind of carbon or element that comes from sealife. The spreading basaltic seafloor is dense and heavy so dives under the buoyant granite continents. Oddly the wet bio slurry of seafloor is a catalyst in turning hot underground rock into propulsive magma, and much of the Pacific rim ends up with lookalike volcanos and fault lines from this. So vulnerability to pacific rim quakes is more a modern curse of making high rises, as well as needlessly bleeding money from upgrade measures by greenhouse loonyness. They worry about tiny amounts of avoidable carbon, while volcanoes (and farm animals for that matter) dump out infinitely more. They look in alarm about sinking volcanic Pacific islands, although that is a known earth crust process thru the ages where basalt must sink vs continental granite must float (submerged dead Hawaiian islands stretch for thousands of miles, millions of years old, not victims of weathering).

OK, now is around the time Italy announces if and when there will be a spring Culture Week. Usually this extends beyond free admission to museums and archeo sites, but many normally closed sites are open for one day only! If you see any notice of this please post (may need some translation help for the special openings). P.S. One of the compensations of hot days trudging thru Roman brick and marble (besides gelato) is the super refreshing carbonated fruit juices Italy has. I noticed the US "Safeway" chain actually imports some of this from Italy although not of the best value. I tried to home-make this with CO2 at first, but settled on a simpler approach they use for gourmet ginger ales. Just flick some yeast into a bottle of fruit juice! You recap it instead of venting, so neglible alcohol is made - it just makes bubbles, clouds up a bit with sexy flavors, and stops the reaction when it pressures up (then you refrigerate). Also puts some drama in your life in avoiding creation of a fizz bomb.

Wouldn't most ancient folks be relatively safe from earthquakes, without brittle, builtup, and centralized infrastructure? We may stereotype them according to stone structures we find today, but those were simply what survived vs the plethora of simpler flexible biodegradeable structures. (I hate it when folks say a finding was the first so-and-so, when obviously it was miraculous luck that preserved it and gave "survival bias" to something actually invented over and over earlier.) I have only endured earthquakes on the top of an alarmingly brittle highrise, but hope to encounter any others in a grassy field where I may find it more like a fun jiggle. The worst part comes many hours after the quake, when temporary altruism starts reversing into brutishness. Pity the storeclerks who man their station and put aside their own family needs to provide supplies to patient customers lined up. Ruthless idiots start barging in and getting violent. I'm not talking about any third world place, but the most civilized... especially around nightfall after a quake, it is best to get off the suddenly mean streets.

An audio course whose name I forget discussed the various Nero pretenders and proposed reasons for them. IIRC it was a result of Neros strong populist side. Much of his antics were considered to thumb his nose at aristocratics and their pretentions. Even his artistic performances were considered slumming it, since artists at that time were not considered at all elite as now (maybe the wiser attitude, based on the lunacy that overnight wonder stars with no knowledge of real life tend to preach). As I understand it, many of the commoners loved this and someone said his returns after death were like latter day Elvis sightings.

I thought Hitler had recently virtually disappeared from the History Channel, just as I had tired of him. Also from the "History Intnl" channel, which just went Hi-Def in my area and gives a vivid wide-screen re-showing of documentaries. I do miss one black and white (bbc?) documentary series of WW2 done with great gravitas that now looks too dated for modern TV... if I could just remember the name, maybe it is available on the internet. These expensive digital HD broadcast standards have been forced on the channels by gov't, so they gotta take advantage of increased visual potential to attract audiences to pay for it. A successful resulting series is "how the earth was made" which is just breathtaking. I think the first capsule summary of earth history show is repeating tomorrow along with a fresh one. And for once it isn't a bunch of pseudo science to promote climate alarmism; for instance they utterly debunk the theory (or mindless hysteria) that severe drops in US great lake levels are related to global warming (the land is rising by an inch per year and draining the lakes by sometimes lots more). Straightforward historical alternatives DO exist, of either talking heads or audio only. One source is video or audio broadcasts of academic courses, such as Open Yale Courses and others http://academicearth.org/subjects/history although they often are polluted by evangelistic leftism. The Roman course on that page is a jewel (and maybe the Greek one?). History is very popular outside of academia, and you can poke around nonfiction http://www.booktv.org/Schedule.aspx in the podcast or youtube categories at the top. Also I think you can get to cspan3 video which has recently focused on all American History at least during the weekends.

They have a lot of short lived series with good scenes of Rome, and sometimes reasonable content. I finally got around to the Hannibal episode of Ancients behaving badly, and for once it had a very provocative story. Portrayed him as way over rated (by Roman propagandists, paid by Scipios family to make Scipio's victory seem more impressive), cruel, and obsessed by crazy gimmicks. Not only elephants but they went in detail to debunk usefulness of his snake weapons. Wasn't it on history channel where they recently had an Italian Policeman evaluate Caesars death along with doctors over an hour, and judge it probably a death-by-cop version of suicide? All of these conclusions aren't really meant to take super seriously, but the way they get there shed light on various things. Apparently Caesar was losing control of himself (and his bowels) in public, so could have knowingly walked in harms way to invite a heros exit from the stage rather than the embarrasing one approaching him.

Pictures of the forum appreciated; they kicked us all out way before closing time when I was there. Can you get to Delos island... fantastic archeology! Drink sour cherry soda (fancy louix brand), eat sour cherry sorbet, but watch for pickpockets.

Some of the same cartoon blood spilling was injected into the History Channel's "Ancients behaving badly". Must be aimed at the male teen demographic that loves violent computer games. I think there is a ruthless struggle for shrinking ad revenues; that is the reason Fox channel is tripling it's charges for CATV to carry them in a very public standoff. For advertisers head count doesn't matter; they only need the demographic that is a loose spender rather than the pennywise. So I've become accustomed to watching manure to get access to some garden goodies so to speak. Some of the funniest comedies now have cruel cynicism that I learn to tune out. The NERO episode of "Ancients behaving badly" had stereotyped history and violence, but fantastic tours of sites. Must have been in March right after rains had cleared and fresh golden light flooded the marble and wildflowers. I've never seen Rome look so attractive, and they have a funny way of enhancing mood of the story by zooming in on Roman pedestrians in a similar mood (joy, anger, fear, whatever) instead of cheesy music. I wonder what museums they showed with Roman sculpture - maybe Vatican, but again I have never seen it look so attractive. My recorder cuts off most credits at the end, but I did notice it was yet another Canadian taxpayer subsidized production - maybe this accounts for lookalike cartoon violence (and moody crowds?) showing up here and there. On Hi-def TV I think the fuzzy cartoonish sequences are less revolting than the hosts or experts they used to have. A microscopic view of rotten teeth or even small skin abscesses in greater-than-life-size must be the reason they have swung to more youthful experts, possibly lacking gravitas.

I had never heard of the B-19. I may have mentioned here some odd circumstances where the restorers of the Enola Gay B29 had asked me to stroke it with my hand to do a comparison test of different protective coatings. Dunno why they didn't test on scrap metal instead; maybe wanted an excuse to give tour members a thrill. It's now on display at Dullas airport near Baltimore. And as a child I wandered around a shabby pre-restored Bockscar B29 and a dummy H bomb at a Dayton Ohio museum; hope I didn't absorb too much leftover radiation. I guess Curtis LeMay was a huge innovator not only for B29 but overall ww2 air tactics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Lemay is very favorable anyway, showing him overcoming all kinds of opposition such as for the air mining of Japanese harbors which was later estimated to have been a war winner if started earlier. Known for more ruthless bombing, but he dropped amazing leaflets beforehand begging the civilians to clear the area and defy their crazy leaders http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Firebombing_leaflet.jpg . In further odd circumstances in his last year of service, I was under his jurisdiction (even as a civilian child) and only knew of him as a stuffy old guy putting out weird slogans here and there... about keeping clean and doing careful work to keep the commies away, or some such.

Speaking of historic weapons with swishy names, the Nagasaki bomber may have been more decisive than the Hiroshima one (named after pilots mother of Enola Gay). It's reasonable for an adversary to assume such difficult bomb is a one time thing for quite a while until resources can be built up again. Stalin actually felt extremely vulnerable after detonating his first nuke, because he had revealed his menace but it was all he could produce for a very long time. One hawk US general wanted to take the opportunity to nuke Russia then and prevent a dangerous cold war. Back to swishy B-29 names. The Nagasaki bomber was first reported to be named "The Great Artiste" because it held their crew and names hadn't been painted on yet. In fact they had switched to "Bockscar" which was named after it's more usual pilot. This was probably poetic justice, because the pilot that sctually flew to Nagasaki was quite irresponsible, and probably should have been court-martialed and shot. Unlike the Enola Gay pilot who was meticulous and professional, the other one broke countless rules and only by chance didn't waste the war-ending bomb into a forest or ocean. For instance he flew in circles waiting so long for a photo aircraft that he hadn't the fuel to bring the bomb back if Japan was socked in (which it essentially was). He managed a near miss of a secondary target, and glided in to an emergency airstrip on fumes. The B29 story is so unlike it's stereotype of yet another boring weapon with incremental improvement. It's development costs were actually higher than the atom bomb, which was astronomical... like building umpteen pyramids while you are trying to win a war. Most of it's technical improvements didn't pay off. When first used as intended, flights would typically lay one single bomb on target (with stupendous effort, like the B29 would have to do 8 round trips to the rear to build up enough resources to make one bomb run). The Japanese literally found this hilarious - it is in their evaluation records. I personally suspect that a new British bomber designed for the pacific (Avro Lincoln) could have been modified to fill in for the hyper expensive B29. It was only a few rebels, like Curtis LeMay and the pilot/organizer of the Enola Gay that drastically revamped the B29 to a practical tool. LeMay actually reaped the more destruction with innovative mini firebombs, and yet escaped the criticism of Harris or the nukers. I don't recall the Enola Gay elicited any feelers of surrender, but the bumbling efforts of The Great Artiste crew did seem to convince the emperor. However a subsequent conventional raid by LeMay is credited with disrupting an Army coup against the emperor and his surrender plans. LeMay later went on to organize the postwar Berlin airlift that broke the Soviet cutoff.

Ugh. The latest new episodes are all coming at once in a five hour block tomorrow. Set up your recorders for Nero, Hannibal, Cleopatra, etc etc http://www.history.com/search.do?action=sc...+Behaving+Badly I hate whatever the marketing reasons why they release these things in a big slug. Later they will show endless repeats with the episode you missed buried, so you have to watch all to find the ONE you want I guess. Spare the complaints about their attempts to sex up their subject with loose adherance to the facts - they gotta pay for broadcasting those beautiful videos of ancient sites with something that will attract fickle general audience and sell commercials.

Success! At least so far. In case anyone else might pursue a similar cheapskate strategy, I will recount how several obstacles were overcome, since to the inexperienced they can seem practically insurmountable. I changed service providers and waited for ff mileage award which didn't arrive. Emailed them a reminder. They said sorry we forgot, then assigned me the wrong "reward", for which I about bust my blood vessels getting straightened out. Continued daily checking, and the tiny ff mileage just now arrived before yearend deadline. Normally nearly impossible to actually use, I lowered my hopes and prepared to pound the pc keyboard all night to snag a Rome flight. As usual, only a couple weird, irreconcilable flights avail for the whole springtime period around "culture week". Found one end that was usable, then looked for the other connection out of another Italian airport with open jaw (success). Had to find a buried option on web back pages to avoid having 4(!) flight connections outbound or 3 plus a ground connection. Of course the act of finding it triggers a timeout, which means logging in again possibly to find the option disappeared. Then, as usual, with the itinerary finalized (in middle of night, when little competition getting flights) the darn thing accepts all my pages and pages of input, but upchucks on the final reservation. As usual for no good reason it simply says cannot complete reservation and to try later. Over and over and over. But I notice a date contradiction among the pages, so try to schedule the same itinerary thru different menus - and it works! Well, this isn't meant as a blog so much as an example of how you might make something like this happen thru maniacal persistance rather than money...

As a holiday gift, I offer you a fine recorded Yale university course on "Roman Architecture" http://oyc.yale.edu/history-of-art/roman-a...ntent/downloads . Available with html course materials, and audio or video. The hi res version of video may have an intimidating size (16ish gb?) but is much better than the lo res for seeing the many slides. 1. Introduction to Roman Architecture 2. It Takes a City: The Founding of Rome and the Beginnings of Urbanism in Italy 3. Technology and Revolution in Roman Architecture 4. Civic Life Interrupted: Nightmare and Destiny on August 24, A.D. 79 5. Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous: Houses and Villas at Pompeii 6. Habitats at Herculaneum and Early Roman Interior Decoration 7. Gilding the Lily: Painting Palaces and Villas in the First Century A.D. 8. Exploring Special Subjects on Pompeian Walls 9. From Brick to Marble: Augustus Assembles Rome 10. Accessing Afterlife: Tombs of Roman Aristocrats, Freedmen, and Slaves 11. Notorious Nero and His Amazing Architectural Legacy 12. The Creation of an Icon: The Colosseum and Contemporary Architecture in Rome 13. The Prince and the Palace: Human Made Divine on the Palatine Hill Paper Topics: Discovering the Roman Provinces and Designing a Roman City 14. The Mother of All Forums: Civic Architecture in Rome under Trajan 15. Rome and a Villa: Hadrian's Pantheon and Tivoli Retreat 16. The Roman Way of Life and Death at Ostia, the Port of Rome 17. Bigger Is Better: The Baths of Caracalla and Other Second- and Third-Century Buildings in Rome 18. Hometown Boy: Honoring an Emperor's Roots in Roman North Africa 19. Baroque Extravaganzas: Rock Tombs, Fountains, and Sanctuaries in Jordan, Lebanon, and Libya 20. Roman Wine in Greek Bottles: The Rebirth of Athens 21. Making Mini Romes on the Western Frontier 22. Rome Redux: The Tetrarchic Renaissance 23. Rome of Constantine and a New Rome There will be a pop quiz here next month, and I'm looking to enroll those who fail as galley slaves on my oncoming invasion of the Canary Islands. SPQR

I respond because you posted before my above post arrived. The graphic shows that the current floods are seasonal phenomena, as are the dryouts later in the year. Not a canary in a coal mine. Get worried from that after the 2014 flood abatement project is supposed to finish. Edit: Oh, I see... I had assumed you remembered the Split sea level graph I posted on the previous page here. It is also on the Croatian web page posted above. It shows THE CENTRAL ADRIATIC SEALEVEL HAS NOT CHANGED IN PAST HALF CENTURY! They try to point out a slight uptick in last couple of years, but obviously that is in the statistical noise level unless it extends itself. You would go broke believing in such a tiny indication upward in the stock market, for example.

Physician, heal thyself! Only actually annoying when you stray off topic into subjects you only apparently know by google Do you mean across the Little Ice Age? Can you quote your source(s)? It's a basic thing anyone that has the slightest interest in Venice will encounter either personally or in pictures or print. You aren't a brain in a jar with internet capabilities, are you? (sorry, too cheeky, but you are expounding on the subject) ... especially if any alternative might affect our pockets in the short term, Gods forbid! More like it will loot the world for almost no effect. You later go on about the irrelevance of economists and how Lomborg agrees there is a "menace". The menace he explains is green overreaction. The warming trends can only be imperceptably delayed by brutal and economically crushing steps with the current technology. Added to that is the inherant way gov't responds to lobbies for exceptions and it's rigidity. For example CO2 producers can switch to much worse greenhouse gasses like NOx. There is a principle of compounding... saving money early will just mushroom your retirement result. The opposite of that occurs with a overreaction to warming... you expend too much with too little result in ignorance of the actual core problem and possible appropriate bullets to address it. I have seen developing countries pull themselves out of grim existance in spite of the threat of anti-globalists and now they have to dodge the green gestapo just to get to a point where they can have the luxury of taking care of environmental things, as the wealthy inevitably do. I have background of being a green fanatic (still maniacally frugal with energy - do any of you leave vehicles garaged till the battery dies, while backpacking groceries a long way home?), and also long dwelled in scientific and economic fields. The foundations of green populism ranges from baldface lies (Gore) to the new style of innuendo (newspaper articles about melting iceburgs, which provably cannot raise sealevels at all due to Archimedes principle). I have sat in with biologists discussing new findings of vast greenhouse gas output by plants, and how they can't publish it because it would give the politically incorrect some ammunition (and reduce their funds and edgy relevance). I have sat with astronomers who have tried to get climatologists to run newly found planets thru their models based on estimated cloud cover and sun/star light. Climate gurus then admit their models can't cope with the wild contradictory effects of vapor in atmosphere, which is key in their greenhouse projections. Well this is a few scattershots I reluctantly post because inappropriate digressive charges were made. I'm not going to read thru replies that try to pick them apart - this isn't the place and I haven't time or interest in warming debates. Instead sink your analytical teeth into the video at http://www.booktv.org/Program/10779/Just+F...esponsibly.aspx Points to consider: The green police will surely attack and penalize distant food transportation, while counterintuitively it has been discovered thru the unregulated market as a huge boon to cutting resource waste, besides being cheaper: - energy cost is virtually nil as a percentage of food cost. - much more abundant and cheap water afar typically rather than taking drastic steps to tap locally - less need for fertilizers (massive greenhouse culprit), pesticides at appropriate growing locations The green intuitive grasp of science is ignorant and backwards. Not only iceburgwise, but for organic food for example (butcher of land productivity). As the speaker says, the hugest difference by far is going to vegetarianism - the waste and greenhouse gas of cattle production is mega. Naturally as a vegetarian I will suffer from dufus gov't climate regulations which attack the wrong things. Feel lucky that veggies don't form a gestapo and force you into complience like the green idiots

3mm x 100yr = 6 inches. That indicates a 4 fold slowdown of supposed 24inch per century rate of rise, which "proves" rising CO2 levels are a benefit. Frankly, all of this is nonsense. Last year there were articles bemoaning "Venice sea levels plunge to 14-year low" and how fire and ambulance boats couldn't get about http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/02/20/2167375.htm Above chart shows the seasonal variation of sea levels in Split Croatia, which is only half way up the Adriatic arm where things only begin to get weird. Venice sees the full effect, and is peaking now and will be near trough at the same month the picture was taken http://www.hhi.hr/mijene/mijene_en/promj_e.htm Doesn't it bother anyone that Split is seeing no rise of sea levels the last half century, yet any "global" source of sea rise would have to pass by Split to get to Venice? Sounds the same as my local fraudulant gov't employed earth scientists who show and tell to newspapers how atoll islands are sinking and bode badly for the rest of the world. Put aside that atoll sinking is a known and natural phenomena of volcanos sinking by their own weight, but you can't have a rising global sea that affects one place at a time. There is no canary for the coal mine - it would affect everywhere nearly simultaneously. The Venice Lagoon is a shallow lake with very confined outlet. Have you ever motored around, such as to Burano? Silt is clogging up almost everywhere preventing rainwater from even draining from one side of the lagoon to the other. My earlier post linked up to steps that were being made for better drainage. Weather hypochondria has been a mainstay for centuries, don't exaggerate global vs local drainage effects as you can visualize from the depiction below