Rameses the Great
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I have become famous for these threads, but I find them fun nonetheless.
Many characterize March for its spring time, spring break, and even St. Patrick's Day. For me its March Madness. From the conference tournaments to the field of 65, there is just something mystical about it.
Whether its Dick Vitales, "OOOOO OOOOO Did you see that he's on fire baby!" Or whether its Daugherty's, "A big slam for the little fella!" It brings hapinees to all.
We all ask ourselves who will make an early exit? What are the upsets to look for? Who's this year's George Mason? When it comes time post upsets, post brackets (if the modes allow it), and have fun.
Remember whatever you do don't choose it based on College Gameday. 
Another note try to print out the brackets before or after work, we don't need another lapse in the economy.
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What sources are you accessing in your 'gathering' to make these generalizations? Your comments on the tribal structure (especially in regards to chieftains) seems quite erroneous.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated!
It was a book made for people starting on Rome. (A hardback kids book
.) It talked about Caesar's Commentaries, however I'm not sure if Caesar made not of this or just the author. All I remember is it is title 'Caesar's Conquest of Gaul.'
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I hear nothing but fluff...one who is wise knows the metal that everyone else is made of. Don Tomato knows what makes a good sauce!
So you want a saucy man to lead your army?
It's ok I respect it...Roman. 
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Oh come on! Why go to the ever unpredictable
when you can join the amazing :mummy: in his pursuits to put you in power. I shall promise you three things:
1. A nice beach with lots and lots of sand and desert time.
2. One step closer to world domination.
3. Belly dancers.
(Sorry girls.) 
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Greek does exist in the Arabic language.
Yunan=Greece
Yunani=Greek
I think they used it even then.
I believe when Christianity took root, Greeks felt more into the Eastern Empire then a Roman would. Lets not forget it also encompassed: Phoenicia, Syria, and Egypt. The capital was set up by Romans, but the Greeks had a large amount of influence.
It is not uncommon to see some Christians call themselves Byzantine. In one Greek Orthodox Church I visited, some of their hyms were in 'Byantine.'
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Very well done Antiochus.
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Didn't he believe that a bean was like a human? He was chased down and refused to run across a field of beans meeting his untimely death. He was a good mathematician but clearly lacked what Greeks wanted, wisdom.
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The way you can tell the difference between a Germanic and Celtic tribe is usually by farming, by what I gathered. Celts were more farming based while Germans believed in migrating and having a staple diet of cattle. The Germans usually had a chieftain in charge of a tribe, there would be a new one every so often. Celts lived in tribes that were based upon villages each having a job to do.
I just listed some differences I though of. It seems in terms of technology they were the same but the societal structure is completely different.
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Happy Birthday Lost Warrior!
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True ... the difference is, with the exception of a handful of remarkable sites like Ur, one of only a few centuries and a gap that is closed very rapidly by the Egyptians. By about 3100BC they are neck and neck in terms of development, and this is before either of them have begun building pyramids or ziggurats. Both develop writing around the same time, both begin monumental construction around the same time, and Egypt is the first to achieve lasting political unity in the form of a stable state, under Narmer (c. 3000BC). Mesopotamia doesn't get there until Sargon's unification under the Akkadian Empire (c. 2300BC) and that doesn't last long.
The only real difference is that the first cities sprung up in and around Mesopotamia, and there are really only a handful of those in 4000BC.
Fair enough.
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Indeed, remeber Byzantium! Happy Birthday Honorius!
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edgewaters,
I agree Mesopatamia is older then Egypt, but not that much older. The Nile Valley Civilization is almost as old as Mesopatamia's.
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I have shown my claim. Either way, Sumerians did not build ziggaurats until 2500 BC. In order to have any type of economy, either barter or agriculture, shows a sign of civilization and organization in itself. How were they able to collect the taxes? What would these taxes be used for?
Egypt did attain civilization before 3000 BC. What you call civilization is up to you, but they were developed well before that time.
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I will give this thread the proverbial 'bump.'
Just because you're paranoid, does not mean no one's after you.
--Regular saying
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That's the step pyramid of Djoser (c. 2600s BC), and it is NOT from 4000 BC as you claimed. It isn't even from the pre-Dynastic period at all, its from the 3rd Dynasty.
It's from the 4th dynasty and as you said it was not from the pre-dyanstic era so Egypt is older then you claim.
Show me an Egyptian monument of 4500BC, then. The only things dated to 4500 BC in Egyptian archaeology are some knapped flint, postholes for huts, beads, woven mats, skin drums, copper axeheads, etc.Dig Offers a Rare Peek at 'Pre-Dynastic' Egypt .
Egypt had at least a partly agricultural economy as early as 5000 B.C., and archaeologists have uncovered royal tombs dating back as far as 4000 B.C. By the time Narmer unified Egypt from his base in southern Hierakonpolis, local chieftains had evolved into the kings of Upper and Lower Egypt.
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Pyramid of Saqqara. Also note this was the 4th dynasty in Egypt. Egypt came out of the Neolothic around 4000 and 4500 BC, and started making these monuments.
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It's up to the Triumviri, RtG. It largely depends on if such topics receive the activity to justify a new subfolder. I think a Near East subfolder in the future wouldn't be a bad idea if activity in that area increases.
I agree, there must be interest. I just loved the idea of merging Germans and Celts into a subforum, that was a great idea.
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If we define the emergence of civilization by the emergence of true urban settlements, with economic activities distinct from villages (which disqaulifies Catal Hoyuk), then Egypt didn't really develop one until 3500-3300; there simply aren't any truly urban sites prior to this.
The first pyramid ever built was by the Egyptians in 4000 BC, a mud tomb in Saqqara. There had to be a good amount of technology and intelligence prior to the date 3300 BC. The pharaoh era in Egypt started as early as 5000 BC.
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Quite interesting considering Egyptians made icons and art out of limestone and gold. Wood was at such a premium in Egypt, that was why it was so important for them to hold on to Lebanon from Syria.
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Thoughtful musings on any of the above are always appreciated.
Would it be a stretch to add Semitic and Egypt together and make a Middle East subforum? Including Persians, Sumerians, Phoenician, Hitites, Assyrians, Egyptians, etc.
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The concept of 'zero' came from India by the way of the Arabs who gave it to the West.
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Please state the source of the recent evidence you refer too.
You can see Egyptian society started in 5500 BC, not 3100 BC.
The issue is very debatable. The oldest known city is Sumer, but the Egyptians started urban planning well before the Mesopatamians did.
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Sumerians - or Mesopotamian civilization - is considerably earlier. By the time the Sumerians were raising their first ziggurats and had established urban life, Egypt was still in its infancy, a collection of tribal villages living mainly off hunting and fishing. The Late Predynastic period in Egypt - the first appearance of anything advanced enough to be called a civilization - is dated no earlier than 3100 BC, while the Ubaid Period of Mesopotamia originates around 5300 BC.
The gap is not that large, and recent evidence had pointed to it starting in Egypt before Mesopatamia.
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Thanks GO, and Publius Nonius Severus. This link really helps a lot!
March Madness
in Hora Postilla Thermae
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Ok, I think I did lose many.
March Madness is what is still right with sports. College basketball athletes showcase why their team is the best. It starts out as a field of 65 (odd number because two teams play for the right of the las spot.) There are four regions, 16 teams in one region. Each seed plays each other. So it would be 1 plays 16 2 plays 15, etc. You go section by section.
Keep in mind there are 'upsets' in which the lower seed beats the higher seed. It's exciting to watch and you can play and even gambol
for money by picking who you think will win. This is the most exciting month to most Americans in terms of sports.