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  1. Pompieus

    How Did Octavian Gain Power In Rome?

    Cicero, like Cato before him, tried to raise up one military dynast (Octavian) to destroy another (Antonius), thinking he could dispose of the young man if he proved intractable. Like Cato, he failed dismally. His "dupe" was far more clever and ruthless than Pompieus...or Cicero.
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    Known places of senatorial meetings

    The Senate needed to be convened by a magistrate, and could meet in any inaugurated space (templum); and was preceded by a sacrifice and the taking of the auspices. (according to Gellius 14.7) In addition to those mentioned by "Novosedoff", meetings were held in the temple of Fides (before the killing of Tiberius Gracchus) and in the temple of Tellus. There was also a curia associated with Pompey's Theater complex in the Campus Martius. The meeting at which Caesar was assassinated was apparently held there.
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    Sulla

    Homework ? In general the Senate, even reinforced by the new members co-opted by Sulla did not vigorously defend the Sullan system against the many discontented elements that opposed it (Italians, exiles, those who's property had been confiscated, equites and businessmen, the plebs). The thrust of Sulla's reforms was to hamstring the tribunate and to control the military commanders. Agitation to emancipate the tribunate was almost immediate. The tribunate was of great value to any aspirant for a political career as it provided a stage as champion of the people and an opportunity to propose laws to benefit powerful patrons; and the plebians looked to the tribunes for land allotments and cheap grain. As soon as 75 BC the consular lex Aurelia ended the prohibition on tribunes holding higher office (and opened the juries to equites, apparently without serious opposition) and Pompey and Crassus removed the other restrictions in 70. Catullus and Senate managed to crush the revolt of Aemilius Lepidus in 77, but agreed to send Pompieus and his army to Spain to deal with Sertorius though he was still an eques, and sent Antonius Creticus against the pirates with imperium infinitum. Then came the Slave war. The failure of the consuls to deal effectively with it, and the absence of the Luculli in the East left command in Italy to Crassus who succeeded in defeating Spartacus. Pompeius returned from Spain in time for the consular elections for 70, the two were duly elected and dismantled much of what remained of Sulla's settlement. The Sullan senate was simply not monolithic in its support of the strictures of the Sullan system. Most were not adverse to a gradual loosening of oligarchic control when circumstances required it.
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    Julius Caesar' debts

    Probably most prominent among them was Crassus (who could afford it). Rumor had Caesar abetting several of Crassus' intrigues in 65-64 BC, and in 61 BC Crassus underwrote Caesar's debts so he could depart for Spain as propraetor (Plutarch Caes xi).
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    Law or SC for Pompey

    Both were appointed to the commands by the senate. Pompieus on a motion by L Marcius Philippus (cos 91) though he had held no magistracy and was still an eques. (Plutarch Pomp 17, Cicero Leg Man 62, Phil 11) Crassus either as praetor or proconsul (it's not clear if he was praetor in 73 or 72). (Plut Crassus 10, Appian BC 118, 121)
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    Senate

    What evidence is there that the senate could meet without being convened by a magistrate?
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    Claudia patrician house in Imperial Rome

    It is extremely unlikely that the ladies mentioned were members of the patrician Claudii or even of the plebian Claudii Marcelli. Pontius Pilate was an equestrian official and not even close to the nobility of those prominent republican consular families...if they still existed.
  8. During the Republic a legion had no single commanding officer. The military tribunes rotated as a sort of "officer of the day". An army commander (consul, praetor, proconsul or propraetor) possessing imperium, might assign one of his legati to control a legion if circumstances required, but only temporarily. The legatus legionis was an innovation of Augustus, created when the legions became permanent organizations. The theory was the same as Augustus held proconsular imperium over all the provinces where legions were stationed.
  9. During the principate the governors of the military provinces (Upper and Lower Germany, Syria, Tarraconensis, Dalmatia, Moesia, Pannonia, Numidia) called legatus Augusti pro praetori, commanded all the legions and auxilia cohorts and alae stationed in their province. These were usually senators, ex-consuls or ex-praetors appointed by the Princeps. The exception was Egypt which was governed, and its army commanded, by an equestrian praefect. This was a flexible system and the Emperor sometimes combined several provinces and their armies under a single commander if necessary (often a member of the Imperial family) As "caldrail' says Constantine created the Offices of Magister Equitum and Peditum to command subdivisions of the permanent field army he created (comitatus). Diocletian (probably) had also created the rank of dux to command the border garrisons in groups of the smaller provinces he had created.
  10. Does a fellow ex-Pittsburgher dare to nit-pick? Plutarch says Caesar raised 10 cohorts when he was pro-praetorian governor of Further Spain but doesn't call them a "legion". There were a few citizen settlements in Spain at the time, but were there enough to form a "iusta legio" ? (especially in peace time). They were very likely Spanish auxiliaries. Nor could a legion (if it existed), formed in 61BC be controlled by Caesar until he took over as pro-consul in Gaul, as his imperium lapsed while he ran for consul. Anyway, the Xth legion, famous in the Gallic and civil wars, was already in the province when Caesar arrived in 58, possibly raised by Gaius Pomptinus to suppress the Allobrogian revolt (61BC). There's no evidence connecting "Caesar's Favorite" Xth legion with Caesar's governorship of Farther Spain. The Xth legion of the Gallic and civil wars was discharged by Caesar in 44BC and the veterans settled at Narbo Martius in Gaul. After Caesar's assassination Lepidus reconstituted the Xth in winter 44/43 including (probably) what veterans he could recruit from the colony at Narbo. This legion fought at Philippi and in the east with Antonius, and sometime after 31 was merged with another legion, given the title "Gemina", and served in Spain et al under the principate. X Fretensis was most likely raised by Octavian in 41/40, fought against Sextus Pompey et al and saw long service in Syria and Judaea. This is somewhat controversial and mostly follows Keppie "Making the Roman Army"
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    Assertion of Power

    I'd agree (fwiw) Its much too simplistic an assertion unless the author means that military power is always the "ultima ratio" in any conflict.
  12. In 49 BC there were two legions in Italy (I and XV) both of which had served with Caesar and were intended for the war with Parthia. Pompieus was authorized by the consuls of 49 to raise troops in Italy, but Caesar moved so quickly that many recruits dispersed or joined his forces, and Pompieus was only able to salvage 30 cohorts of recruits (3 legions). With these and legions I and XV (later re-numbered III) he sailed to Greece. In Greece Pompeius formed one legion by consolidating the 2 weak legions that formed the garrison of Cilicia, and 2 legions from Syria joined later. These men had been serving overseas for some time (some for 6+ years). Levies of veterans and Italian residents in Crete and the province of Asia formed 3 more ("stiffened" by 15 Caesarian cohorts captured in Dalmatia and a few Pompeians who evaded capture in Spain) so that Caesar says Pompey controlled 11 legions (110 cohorts) in 48 BC. When Brutus crossed to Greece in 44 BC he took over 1 legion that was in Macedonia, 3 in Illyricum and raised 4 more from exiles, veterans and Italian residents in Greece (including the poet Horace), but he must also have recruited non-citizens in Macedonia and Asia as well. Cassius later joined Brutus with 7 legions that had been in Syria, 4 from Egypt and 1 from Asia. Cassius probably also controlled 2 or 3 legions of non-citizens recruited in Egypt, Syria and Pontus (legio vernacula) like Caesar's Alaudae. Pompeius and Brutus/Cassius would have also controlled considerable forces provided by allied and client kings. Most of the legionaries were the troops that happened to be in the eastern provinces, bolstered by exiles and Italians who were residing overseas (there were few overseas military colonies prior to Augustus). Plus (in a pinch) non-citizen provincials. In a Civil War commanders and recruiting officers are apt to overlook the details of a potential recruit's qualifications (viz Roman citizenship) or even his personal inclinations when they need men. Afranius and Petrieus in Spain had one "native" legion. As did Caesar. Recruitment of non-citizens (willingly or by compulsion) and forming them into "legions" was more common in the armies of Metellus Scipio in Africa in 46, and Sextus Pompey and Lepidus in Sicily after 44 BC. See P A Brunt "Italian Manpower" for sources etc.
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    About numerous consulships

    In 342 BC the tribune L Genucius passed several reforming laws including a lex that required a hiatus of ten years between iterations of the consulship. (Livy vii.42) In 210 BC during the crisis of Hannibal's invasion, the dictator, tribunes and senate agreed to suspend the law as long as there was war in Italy. (Livy xxvii.6) This allowed the people to elect proven commanders to oppose Hannibal (viz: Q Fabius Maximus, M Claudius Marcellus, Q Fulvius Flaccus, T Sempronius Gracchus). When the 2nd Punic War ended in 202 BC, the lex Genucia went back into effect, and iterations of the consulship returned to 10 year intervals (viz: L Aemilius Paullus 182 & 168, M Aemilius Lepidus 187 & 175, Q Marcius Philippus 186 & 169 et al). However, even before Marius, there were a couple of exceptions. In 162 C Marcius Figulus and P Cornelius Scipio Nasica were elected consuls, but a fault in religious procedures caused both men to resign. Marcius was then elected consul in 156, and Nasica in 155. In 152 BC M Claudius Marcellus(iii) who had been consul in 166 and 155 BC was elected a third time to handle the "Fiery War" in Spain. Polybius and Appian pass over this event without comment, and Livy's account is lost, so we don't know if suspension of the law in 152 met serious opposition; but soon after another law was passed precluding second consulships altogether. Thus there were laws, and a long tradition that only in a crisis should the laws be suspended. And, of course, there was a political aspect in 107 BC as Marius (a novus homo) was trying to supersede the proconsul Q Caecilius Metellus who had a strong following. Also...it is anachronistic to use terms like "liberal" or "conservative" in relation to Roman politics (actually it is also probably true NOW!). Roman political groupings were personal, often temporary and rarely reflected any sort of "ideology". Mostly they were concerned with who should hold power, and what should be done with it in the short term.
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    Senator selection

    By the fourth century senate membership was predominantly hereditary, but the Emperors often added new members. Constantius II founded a second senate at Constantinople, and the number of senators grew in the fourth century due to honorary appointments, and the large number of offices that came to carry senatorial status during service or on retirement (possibly as many as 2,000 in each.) A.H.M Jones "The Later Roman Empire" chapter XV gives an overview.
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    Big money and fall

    Rather than just concentration of wealth, isn't it really a question of how "deep" into the population of a society does the desire (willingness?) to preserve and defend it go? If the elites and the masses are not BOTH willing to defend a society from external (or internal) challenges and divisions, can it survive? A little too much Toynbee ?
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