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//===================================================// The Scipio Family in the Punic Wars "i research this article due to my confusion on the Scipio name and or person" roman wargamer 1st Punic War 260 consul Cn.Cornelius Scipio lost 17 ship of Lipan Island 2nd Punic War 218-201 after the assination of Hasdrubal Hnnibal succeded the throne 219 he destroyed Saguntum 218 he executed a daring march with 26,000 troops consul P.Cornelius Scipio reach Marseilles to late he therefore sent his brother to Spain Cnaeus Scipio with most of the fleet. Hannibal win at Ticinus, P. Cornelius Scipio lost Hannibal win at Trebia,consul Sempronius Longus lost 217 Hannibal cross Appennines west of two new Roman army posted at Ariminum and Arretimi Hannibal win at Trasimene,consul Flaminus lost Rome terrified appoint Dictator Quintus Favius Maximus known as "the Delayer" nickname Contator 216 Hannibal win at Cannae against proconsul C. Terentius Varro "the escaper" and proconsul M. Cladius Marcellus 86,000 legioner was annihilated 216 1st Nola 215 2nd Nola 214 3rd Nola 212 BC 1st Capua win Carthaginians (Hannibal) lost Romans (Fulvius Flaccus, Appius Claudius) 212 BC Silarus win Carthaginians (Hannibal) lost Romans (M. Centenius Pentula) 212 BC Herdonia win Carthaginians (Hannibal) lost Romans (Gn. Flavius) 211 BC Syracuse win Romans (M.Claudius Marcellus) lost Syracusans 211 BC Upper Baetis win Carthaginians (Hasdrubal) lost Romans (Gnaeus and Publius Cornelius Scipio) both was killed and drove the Romans into Ebro 211 BC Siege of Capua 210 BC Herdoinia win Carthaginians (Hannibal) lost Romans (F. Centumalus) 210 BC Numistro win Carthaginians (Hannibal) lost Romans (Marcellus) 210 P. Cornelius Scipio son of the just died general was given a proconsul power and was sent to Spain and later known as Africanus 209 BC Asculum win Carthaginians (Hannibal) lost Romans (Marcellus) 208 BC Baecula win Romans (P. Cornelius Scipio Africanus) lost Carthaginians (Hasdrubal Barca) 207 BC Grumentum *Draw* Romans (C.Claudius Nero) *Draw* Carthaginians (Hannibal) 207 BC Metaurus win Romans (C.Claudius Nero) lost Carthaginians (Hasdrubal Barca)was killed 206 BC Ilipa win Romans (P.Cornelius Scipio Africanus) lost Carthaginians (Hasdrubal) 203 BC Bagbrades win Romans (P.Cornelius Scipio Africanus) lost Carthaginians (Hasdrubal/Syphax) 202 BC Zama win Romans (P.Cornelius Scipio Africanus) lost Carthaginians (Hannibal) he escape //==================================================// 260 consul Cn.Cornelius Scipio lost 17 ship of Lipan Island 218 consul P.Cornelius Scipio reach Marseilles to late he therefore sent his brother to Spain Cnaeus Scipio with most of the fleet. 210 P. Cornelius Scipio son of the just died general was given a proconsul power and was sent to Spain and later known as Africanus 190 L. Cornelius Scipio later known as Asiaticus 146 Aemilianus Scipio in 211 both brother was killed in Spain consul P.Cornelius Scipio and Cnaeus Scipio and other Scipio??? //=================================================// 190 brother P. Cornelius Scipio later known as Africanus L. Cornelius Scipio later known as Asiaticus at the Magnesia Battle near Smyrna , they win agaisnt Antichus and obliged him to surrender Hannibal to Rome and give up all European and Asiatic possession though the Carthage general escape 183 BCE Hannibal poison himself at the court of Prusias I of Bithynia who was about to betray him to Rome.

actually at the foundation of Rome it is the plebian comitia. the comitia curiata- the assembly of the elders of clan, big family and the richer family below the patres. then, when do comitia centuriata only arise?

Yes! a Happy Happy New Year to All UNRV members.

then why the English did not conquered the French and won the war if long bow was enough to win war. normally a legio will not attack a defensive and encamped enemy... they will first build a circumvallatio before the seige.. to encircle with defensive ramp the enemy first. long bow was not enough technique to win battle... it was never proven to win a war. even crusaders knights succumn to Islamic warriors... that Romans defeated their ancient army many times.

even the best armour and the most thickest one will be penetrated by the metal spike of spear... try to wear it and charge a wall of spear and you might possibly killed yourself in a test. wrong...in Trajan/Hadrian era; they already have conttarii and clibanarii-almost the same as knight armor. J. Caesar have proven in Pharsalus that cavalry can be defeated in flank counter atatck. cavalry or knight attack are deadly only as a second flanking counter attack while the enemy front battle line are pin down. the Roman have an standing 300,000 militias that reach mostly 600,000 in Caesar era. the English never conquered the French nor the French conquered the English. but the Romans have conquered both the English and most of continental Europe. speaking in military term for me... the Roman Organization will greatly help and an advantage. but will never gurantee victory... as Hannibal have proven... military tactic and strategy will decides battles. and if we are speaking about war... i am very sure the Italian Romanus Legiones will win the war.

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when Rome was founded they have 100 Patrician family who act as senate body or council of the state.

my apology... i thought you are looking for a realistic ancient military battle game. still why not try even only a little one playable on this trhread. a 3 square width X 9 square lenght. it is exciting one as most pro players who tried it.

i am not claiming it to be so... it is what an authoritative book scholar writer say so, not me. it is just coincidence that Sol Invictus and December 25 christmas bear on the same coin. cause they use the date for that holiday when facts directs that Jesus was born on summer. for what ever their intent and reason will never be known to us. but please this thread was about the Sun God of the ancient Roman Mithras cult. i do not want it to closed, papal bull exsurge and tranferred to hell. Ursus had already warn me. please mellow down or address christmas in right forum and proper topic..

then, if you are afraid to be defeated in a simple boardgame- i will play your thesis game. as we have the same number of men of war- 10,000 men. ___________________________________________________________________________ you left 2,000 men to cut me off... let me see if that is a good idea.. i then begin my battle. i immediately ordered my legiones council of war and all centurion commander for a battle plan. we will do a "Nero Strategy" to elimanate all those 2,000 CiceroD men on our rear. the Metaurus River Tactical Move technique will be very good to annihilate all those poor soldier. i will march back my whole legio to those annoying rear enemy presence. as we near to those 2,000 poor men. the 9th and 10th cohortia detached to do an initial right flank attack. and the 7th and 8th cohortia also detached to do an another left closing gap left flank attack. as the 4 cohort close in to engage in my simultaneous two sides prong flank attack manuever. my main body of 6 cohortia of Italian Legiones slowly march in the center to give a piece meal murder. as your 2,000 poor men struggle to survive a swift 10,000 men Scipio Africanus Manuever. i give order that all enemy men that resist will be killed immediately in the field, no mercy!!! as my whole legio slowly murder those CiceroD soldier. i am already contemplating to attacl Krak. while CiceroD hide in a castle with two concentric walls on the top of a 650 meter cliff in the burning Syrian desert!. He say's all the same I'm inside Krak des Chevaliers You cant get me. i will get you with my Tenth Legio. you will become like Masada after i get you and your poor soldier.

if you are really full of surprises, then surprise me by defeating me this game. did you really even tried to play a military wargame board. then why not try this one... shall we. no dices; no cards and no tape measure needed. i never know that Continental Europe in Middle Age have and possess ships that could be compare to Roman navy in the era of Augustus. could you explain to me why you hide in Syrian castle and wasted all those logistic manpower, food and money just to run away from a legion seige.

Introduction The Roman Wargame is on Military Wargame Model In the boardgame of 9 X 9 square ..=81 square.. actual size is 18" X 18" But with more than 100 player pieces...on the boardgame. Each Player has its OWN Pre Determine Legion of Army Group Playable by 2 people...and or Team Play of 4 to 8 person Player ( A ) has a Regimental Size and Number of player pieces . SEE the Picture to have an OVER View and Catch the Concept The game could be FINISH in 10 to 20 Minutes of Play Time. The Player Pieces FOOT SOLDIER can Move 1 Square PER MOVE In ANY and ALL point of direction Front Forward...Diagonal Frontward MOVE to LEFT or Right.. To LEFT or Right Side Ward MOVE Diagonal Back Ward MOVE to LEFT or Right.. and Rear Backward MOVE All the KNIGHT and CHARIOT has the SAME MOVEMENT rule Except that It Can MOVE a Maximum of 2 Square per Move. ALL Player Pieces are Allowed not to MAKE Any Move at All. It has many accessory Player Pieces...Like Battery Ram...Catapult Ballista...Spear Ballista...Fire Wall...Fire Mine...Phalanx Fence...ETC. Every Player Pieces HAVE a Combat Value. When they ATTACK...they have an Attack Plus Point System. The Defense Plus Point are Use only by the ROMAN Player Pieces with the Full Shield. Combat Value + Attack/Defense... PPS = Total Combat Value Equation / TCVE If you Equal the TCVE of the Enemy.. on Combat Action Engagement... /CAE. You WIN the Combat Action Engagement. Means I USE New Formula. And ALL the Player Pieces Can Be MOVE. ALL at THE SAME TIME . The simultaneous and realistic MOVES RULES. The movement of wargame that are invented now is unique. The PLAYER ...have a Real Time Move NO. ( ) Rule. 1 Regimental Moves composes of...4 to 5 Battalion Moves. which have.......... 3 to 5 Comapany Moves... which have...3 to 4 Individual Moves... Total of almost More than 45 player pieces movement.. moving all at the same time

do you remember the Masada. the Roman conquer it... and sold most Jew to slavery after that, as warning to all the ancient world city state,kingdom and empire... that Rome can also be savage. if you hide inside the castle, are an indication that your armies can not win in open battle. but i thought you were in European castle, how come you hide there to escape a legion siege. just all plain joke... for everything is all hypothesis, hope got it. he! he! he! what i am saying is a boardgame that we could play in this thread. shall we try it, just for fun... i will send the rules. it is name Roman Wargame III.

The feast of "Catholic Christmas" was invented in Rome by a heretic name Artenon and first celebrated in Constantinople on 373 A.D. (p.47) The New Shaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge _____________________________________________________________________________ so christmas do not yet exist in Constantine era... nor known or celebrated until 373 circa. it is a slow process of evolution as what is now know today...invented by heretic for Roman Holiday.

where are the High Middle Ages "main" armies of (King or General?) CiceroD. my legiones men of war can not see them in the battlefield... where are they??? as the Roman Equites advance scout reports they are nowhere to be found nearby!!! and waiting for the covert axulia intellegence men to report enemy number and disposition. CiceroD take your action or i will siege your castle. be brave to take an open field battle of your life... i am waiting.

if you could move play those men of war in board; then let's play it. a ten thousand men. the legio horn was sounded; by then,(my) the Roman Legio was preparing for battle formation in 'triplex acies' quadratum form.

it will be better if you could begin a topic about Byzantines or Orthodox church history. by your direct experience and perspective, we can learn more of it's origin, tradition and belief. hope you can give it a try.

The Council of Nicaea 325 A.D. "The Council could not agree and after two years, impatient at the delay, the Emperor Constantine appeared and addressed the assembly, ordering them to agree on the divinity of Christ..." page 60, Challenge of a Liberal Faith Divus Emperor Constantine decreed godship to Jesus "The Christ" thereby making him god. a Jewish from Nazareth who founded the first century christianity in Israel. by 325 A.D. Jesus Christ was now officially god under the ancient Roman Universal Church. But the overall church authority have been granted to the Roman Curiae and now belong to them. By decree of Nicene Creed it created a new state religion and universal church. just an emperor's whim? or a vision for a new Romanus Divus Invictus for Templum Romae? and all eastern opposition; even Arius was declared heretics and subjects to state persecution. in a simple "coup de grace" by Emperor Constantine, he repeated what Emperor Aurelian did in 275 A.D. Emperor Aurelian have adopted Sol Invictus and the Mithras cult for the Roman empire. as always... history repeat itself, but for the good of the empire and Roman peace. and ending the stigma of chrisitian problem on their timeline. making the Roman Curiae as the official agent of the state for the control of christian church. and Rome make a landmark in the ancient world history by inventing a new universal church.

have anybody tried "your left" counter attack flank envelopment against superior enemy. it is very hard thing to do... what more if you will do it in two flanks. Cannae is the first perfect example of double envelopment tactical success by an inferior rag tag army. the "double envelopment" attack military masterpiece created by Hannibal will be remember forever. it secured his placed in world military manuals even after Zama.

Are you saying this is a good thing? it defends on timeline and point of view if you are a member of the elite Patrician and a Romanus Senator in their time, yes, it is the best solutions against the christians. for the pagan Roman Empire. but for religious reason, today; it is a different things for me. for you can never truly compare the pagan belief to true christianity.

In the Gospel according to Matthew, Christ said; "And I tell you...I will build my church...and the power of dearh shall not prevail against it." Mt. 16:18 Bible they grab the church leadership under the very whims of Emperor Constatine imperial power. so it is basically a novel idea... "if you can not deafeat them, joint them concept" when the christian church could not be defeated by persecution and stop by constant massacre. they change everything that it could no longer be compare with the pure and original Church of Christ. after the Council of Nicaea, the western Roman Curiae emerge so trumphant that obliterated the eastern group leadership in an emperor instigated christiam church leadership "coup d tat." after this event...the persecuted church become the persecutor...killing all who oppose their leadership. The eclipse of the true and original christian ( first century church ) was slowly and gradually dawned by the new professing paganized and romanized christian under the Roman Curiae. at last the Roman Curiae invented a new state and universal religion.

after the Council of Nicea, the western Roman Curiae emerge so trumphant that obliterated the eastern group leadership in an emperor instigated christiam church leadership "coup d tat." after this event...the persecuted church become the persecutor...killing all who oppose their leadership. The eclipse of the true and original christian ( first century church ) was slowly and gradually dawned by the new professing paganized and romanized christian under the Roman Curiae. _________________________________________________________________________________ so it is basically a novel idea... "if you can not deafeat them, joint them concept" when the christian church could not be defeated by persecution and stop by constant massacre. they grab the church leadership under the very whims of Emperor Constatine imperial power. they change everything that it could no longer be compare with the pure and original Church of Christ. _________________________________________________________________________________ why not compare them according to their timeline: first........the pagan religion of the Roman second....the Church of Christ founded by Jesus of Nazareth in Isarel third........the paganized and romanized professing christians and other churches.

The feast of "Catholic Christmas" was invented in Rome by a heretic name Artenon and first celebrated in Constantinople on 373 A.D. (p.47) The New Shaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge

isn't the original language of Jesus "The Christ" is Jewish. and the New Testament books of the Holy Bible was written on Low Greek Language. How come Latin Mass is well fame and presume the most ancient language mass? Greek and Jewish Mass language could also mesmerized Catholics and mystified non-Catholics.

Why thank you! Er....huh? anabatic simply refers to warming air or wind that are doing an upward movement that could produce thundering weather. i remember it after a strong typhoon in our country, even my second floor room was partly destroyed. hoping we can see your research from your good collection of book. have a shoot and goodluck FC. i like to compare it with my understanding how, what and who are the tribe/city/state membership.